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David Rhoades
20031217
How Lucifer Plays The Name Game
"Many religions believe in a World Teacher or Saviour,
knowing him under such names as the Christ, the Lord Maitreya, the Imam Mahdi, the Bodhisattva, and the Messiah, and these terms are used in some of the Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist and Jewish versions of the Great Invocation."(1)
Lucifer likes to steal the names of others to divert and confuse.
In these articles from the Lucis Trust (Formerly the Lucifer Publishing Company) Lucifer uses the names "Christ" and the "Coming One" to imply that they are Jesus.(2),(3)
They can even verify this by referring you to your Bible, if your Bible has been published since 1900 using the corrupt Greek text. (NIV, NJKJ, NASB etc.)
In preparation of the "New Bibles", Lucifer has had
his menions corrupt the original Greek text in excess of some 6,000 times.(4),(5)
Don't be fooled my friends. The "Coming One" they are waiting for is not The Lord Jesus Christ, but Lucifer himself.
Beware that the name game of counterfeit names is being played out even today in a thousand different ways.
Recently it was called to my attention that, someone from a well known church, has apparently registered the name www.concernedmembers.net.(6) It sounds and appears similar to www.ConcernedMembers.com,(7) but what you get when you visit the link is not what you thought, if
you were looking for this site.
If I were a member of this church, I think I would want to know which of my leaders were responsible for this diversion and confusion.
You mentioned www.concernedmembers.net, but you might also want to include www.concernedmembers.org in your list of names that has been taken by the other side. Just thought I would pass this along.
Tom
(Yes, the same Tom that Ken and Donnie took to the woodshed earlier in the week.)
Thanks for the information. I have checked it out and indeed…! Your post above clearly indicates that it is now included in the list.
A lot of things come to mind. Perhaps, the leadership has come finally to a realization of CONCERN—thus, seeking affiliation with the REALLY CONCERNED MEMBERS. “Things” in the Marcher don’t go unnoticed: hardly (if any) the mention of “worship leader” … “praise teams” rehearsing … “drama” … 8:00am assembly as “traditional” versus 10:30am assembly as “contemporary” … etc. I would like to think that these are good signs of attempts at reconciliation—good news for those who have been alienated and are contemplating a return. We’ll just have to wait and see.
It’s also time for the eldership (the scriptural form of leadership) to take charge and not be overruled by other forms of leaderships, which seem to be taking control over “transformed” congregations (trans-Baptist/charismatic/community) in the brotherhood.
Our friends don't grasp that our Bible is in English while the original was in Hebrew or Aramaic. Lucifer is LATIN for heylel. The NIV translates the word as morning star. But, the morning star in the pseudo-literature and among the "new styleworship" was really VENUS or ZOE. False teachers still try to pawn ZOE (group) of as the true morning star. She/he was the COUNTERFEIT Logos or Christ to fool the fools. These were the SEVEN steps of the pyramid representing the "wandering stars" or known planets plus the moon and sun. They appear in Egypt and amazingly Central America.
However, the SEVEN SPIRITS of the TRUE Morning Star all related to the SPIRIT OF forms of DIVINE KNOWLEDGE (Isa 11). After all, Jesus died to establish a SYNAGOGUE or School of the Bible. The seven or nine branched Menorah or the lampstands in the Holy Place represented these seven LIGHTS. Jesus came as the TRUE light to give knowledge. He gave NO direction about RITUALISTIC worship and indeed died to REMOVE IT. "Spiritual anxiety through religious ritual" is what Satan wants to keep your SPIRIT or MIND off the Word.
The NEW STYLE WORSHIP, as prophesied in Revelation 18 worships LUCIFER the FALSE morning star. Most of the time, the PRAISE word used of David means to MAKE YOURSELF VILE. He believed that he had God trapped in the Ark of the Covenant and lived in mortal fear of HIM. When he sang, played and danced naked BEFORE THE LORD it was before the ARK and the camp following slave girls. After all, all ancients believed that Go could not punish the insane.
Lucifer is from the Hebrew:
Heylel (h1966) hay-lale'; from 1984 (in the sense of brightness); the morning-star: - lucifer.
For those who don't like the word LUCIFER (Venus, Inanna, Zoe) just use the word MUSICAL WORSHIPER.
Whatever you call him/HER was CAST OUT of heaven for trying to steal WORSHIP from God. He appeared in the garden of Eden with wind, string and percussion instruments. He wholly seduced Eve in premarital fornication (According to Paul) and therefore Cain (meaning a musical note) was "of that evil one." The language and the people who lived with the original languages then identify him as SODOMIZING Adam. They ATE of the FRUIT in the MIDDLE of the Garden: The Assyrians were the TALLEST TREES IN EDEN. Thus, the absolute historical association between religions music and sexual perversion. The same OPHIS meaning SOPHISTS or musicians or sorcerers in the book of Revelatio.
Lucifer is derived from the Hebrew:
HALAL (h1984) haw-lal'; a prim. root; to be clear (orig. of SOUND, but usually of color); to SHINE; hence to make a SHOW, to BOAST; and thus to be (clamorously) foolish.. to CELEBRATE; FEIGN SELF MAD.. give in marriage, [sing, be worthy of] praise, rage, renowned, shine.
Which has the same meaning as:
cHALAL (h2490) khaw-lal'; a prim. root [comp. 2470]; prop. to BORE, i. e. (by impl.) to WOUND, to dissolve; fig. to PROFANE (a person, place or thing), to break (one's word), to begin (as if by an "opening wedge"); denom. (from 2485) to "PLAY THE FLUTE".. take inheritance, pipe, PLAYER on INSTRUMENTS, pollute, (cast as) profane (self), "PROSTITUTE," slay (slain), sorrow, stain, wound.
Flutes were both MALE and FEMALE and were PHALLIC SYMBOLS.
They want to take LUCIFER out of the Bible so that you don't know that Lucifer was the FALSE morning star (Venus, SEX). Therefore, when you read the New Testament you can pretend to worship Lord Jesus but you MUSICALLY try to seduce people to be the "harem of the gods" as the ONLY MEANING of religious musicians.
However:
.."I Jesus have sent mine angel (Spirit) to TESTIFY unto you these things in the CHURCHES. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the BRIGHT and MORNING STAR. Re.22:16
Again, the SPIRITS which would rest on the BRANCH were all related to supernatural knowledge delivered to DICIPLES (students, not ritualistic worshipers) ONLY by elders who "teach that which has been taught."
Orthrinos (g3720) or-thrin-os'; from 3722; relating to the dawn, i.e. matutinal (as an epithet of VENUS, espec. brilliant in the early day): - morning.
Jesus is the only:
Astar (g792) as-tare'; prob. from the base of 4766; a star (as strown over the sky), lit. or fig.: - star.
Rev 18:22 And the VOICE of HARPERS, and MUSICIANS (LOCUSTS), and of PIPERS, and TRUMPETERS, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no CRAFTSMAN, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a "MILLSTONE" shall be heard no more at all in thee;
When Samson GROUND in the king's house he was NOT grinding barley. The grinders were concubines or prostitutes who did DOUBLE DUTY. When Israel rose up to PLAY at Mount Sinai they were not PLAYING tennis. And when David sang, played and danced naked with the slave girls he told the disgraced Micah that I WILL MAKE MYSELF MORE VILE thinking that God was still in te box. What he did is defined HALAL (h1984) above. The HEBREW play or sport connect the musical idolatry at Mount Sinai, to Samson, to David's PLAY.
Paul warned the Corinthians--for good reason--that they should not PLAY.
More later about PHOS the personification of Venus.
Sorry, Tom, I am just busy trying to stomp on Vipers in Hohenwald right now. And my HEELS and teeth hurt.
There is nothing intermediate between light and darkness. Lucifer or ZOE reigns as mother goddess worship. You see them up front where the WORD belongs claiming to BE Jesus to get you sexually aroused to LEAD you into the presence of "god." Because musical performers, even at the Towers of Babylon, were universally known as the HAREM OF THE GOD, your "spiritual" feeling is you PRESENTING your spirits to Lucifer for spiritual fornication.
The end time Babylon Whore religion which the return of Jesus will TERMINATE is defined as:
Rev 18:22 And the VOICE of HARPERS, and MUSICIANS (LOCUSTS), and of PIPERS, and TRUMPETERS, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no CRAFTSMAN, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a MILLSTONE shall be heard no more at all in thee;
When Satan transformed himself into a "serpent" we understand from the definition of the word and ancient history that he did not become a "snake." Rather, he is defined as a musical enchanter, soothsayer or magician who used music to transform himself from an ugly beast into a SUPER STAR.
pharmak-eus , poisoner, SORCERER, "SOPHISTAI"
....sophists , ou, ho, master of one's craft, adept, expert, of DIVINERS, Hdt.2.49; of POETS of MUSICIANS, sophiste
These are the TECHNES associated with the muses (locusts) of Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon) and instrument plyers in the end-time Babylon harlot worship.
THE Sohist is often associated with the Greek:
sungignomai (when the CHURCH gathers)
...II. associate, keep company with, hold CONVERSE with,
2. of DISCIPLES or PUPILS, hold converse with a MASTER, consult him,
Christians are DISCIPLES or STUDENTS and not WORSHIPERS trained by the ZOE GROUP. STUDENTS learn all that Christ taught and revealed. DISCIPLES are only those who believe and are BAPTIZED before the MASTER TEACHER will even speak to you. The REFUSNIKS are defined by Jesus as TREACHEROUS and INFIDELS. They CANNOT hear God (2 Cor 3: the VEIL is still in place in their minds)
A sOPHISts is a viper who takes A WAGE and will teach ANYTHING to get paid.
The POISONERS or SORCERERS are the sOPHISts who intrude into the CHURCH which is Christ's SYNAGOGUE. The synagogue does not belong to the HIRELINGS who deliberately sow discord.
...But for the cowardly, unbelieving, sinners, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death." Rev 21: 8
I will come near to you to JUDGMENT; and I will be a swift witness against the SORCERERS, and against the adulterers, and against the perjurers, and against those who oppress the HIRELING in his wages (Teach TITHING and the LAW of GIVING), the widow, and the fatherless, and who deprive the foreigner of justice, and don't fear me," says Yahweh of Hosts. Mal 3: [5]
Yea, they WILL steal from dead, crippled widows.
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the APOSTLES of Christ. 2 Cor 11:13
And no marvel; for SATAN himself is transformed into an ANGEL of LIGHT. 2 Cor 11:14
STARS have always been symbolic of those who can make a lie sound like the truth.
Phos (g5457) foce; from an obsol. phao, (to shine or make manifest, espec. by rays; comp. 5316, 5346); luminousness (in the widest application, nat. or artificial, abstr. or concr., lit. or fig.): - fire, light.
phoster = a light, or light-giver, used of star light, and light holders or bearers. (Compare Genesis 1:14, 16).
photismos = a lighting, illumination, shining.
Phaino (g5316) fah'ee-no; prol. for the base of 5457; to lighten (shine), i.e. show (trans. or intrans., lit. or fig.): - appear, seem, be seen, shine, * think.
Revelation 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.
Revelation 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain (POWER) burning with fire was cast into the sea (Meaning SALT: ye are the salt of the earth): and the third part of the sea became blood;
Revelation 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the SUN was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the STARS; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
This terminology goes back into Babylonian mythology and represents rulership. With the Babylonians, it was attributed to the Ishtar system in the evening as the Evening Star representing sexual love and the Morning Star represented ISHTAR as goddess of war (Venus, Zoe, Life). This was reflected in the TRIAD system which originated in Babylon.
INANNA stole the CRAFT of the "eldership, musical worship and perverted sexuality" from EA, the patrong god of music while he was DRUNK. She loves to build TEMPLES and then with her drum beaters SOW DISCORD among peacable brethren. Does that ring a bell?
The theology represents the cosmology of the heavens and concerns rulership.
"In the Greek New Testament, the term rendered day star in English is actually phosphoros (in 2 Pet. 1:19) in relation to Christ in the KJV but rendered as morning star in the RSV. Both versions avoid the REAL sense which is light bringer as Phosphoros. Lucifer is the Latin translation of this word.
Lucifer refers to a RANK but we have to call "it" something. How about calling him/her HALAL as in Musical Worship Teams trying to OUTSHINE Jesus? Or A cappella as in the Pope's CASTRATOS.
The NAME is Latin but almost NONE of our words appear in the Hebrew. The concept began in heaven and then to the garcen of Eden as the NACHASH or "musical worship" with wind, string and percussion instruments. The literal king of Tyre was never in the garden of Eden but he was the CHANGE AGENT indwelled by the SPIRIT of Satan which was not A holy spirit. Judas whose JUDAS BAG for thieves was for "carrying the reeds of wind instruments," was PANICED by Jesus when He MARKED Judas with the SOP as a basis of the word MELODY.
Plutarch, Lives Pericles
IV. His teacher in music, most writers state, was Damon (whose name, they say, should be pronounced with the first syllable short); but Aristotle1 says he had a thorough musical training at the hands of Pythocleides.
Now Damon seems to have been a consummate sophist,
DAMON
"Rise, LUCIFER, and, heralding the light,
bring in the genial day, while I make MOAN
fooled by vain passion for a FAITHLESS BRIDE
for Nysa, and with this my dying breath
call on the gods, though little it bestead--
the gods who heard her vows and HEEDED NOT.
'Begin, my FLUTE, with me Maenalian lays.'
but to have TAKE REFUGE behind the NAME of MUSIC in order to CONCEAL from the MULTITUDES his real power, and he associated with Pericles, that political ATHLETE, as it were, in the capacity of RUBBER AND TRAINER.
[2] However, Damon was not left unmolested in this use of his LYRE as a SCREEN, but was OSTRACIZED for being a great schemer and a friend of tyranny, and became a BUTtt of the comic poets. At all events, Plato (the comic poet) represented some one as inquiring of him thus:--
In the first place tell me then, I beseech thee, thou who art The Cheiron, as they say, who to Pericles gave his CRAFT.
Plato comicus; Kock, Com. Att. Frag. i. p. 655
[3] Pericles was also a pupil of Zeno the Eleatic, who discoursed on the natural world, like Parmenides, and perfected a species of refutative catch which was sure to bring an opponent to grief; as Timon of Phlius expressed it:--
His was a tongue that could argue BOTH WAYS with a fury resistless,
Zeno's; assailer of all things.
Timon, unknown
Plato said that DAMON taught and practiced that when NEW STYLES OF MUSIC were introduced it INTENDED TO CHANGE THE LAWS. Apostates always SET THEIR POEMS TO MELODY to fool the SIMPLE MINDED, they said.
One would be most wise to consult the context of any passage they used it. "Lucifer" was the king of Babylon. It is explicitly stated in the text. You do not have to resort to mystical explanations.
Please read Isaiah 14:4, and you will see that this is the case. All modern beliefs of who "Lucifer" is are results of John Milton's book "Paradise Lost". Please rest with the Bible's explanation.
You are right, they do in fact know who they worship, but it is just as easy (if not easier) to worship Satan in ignorance as it is God (Acts 17:23). I do not expect a Satanist to study the Bible for any reason, much less to choos a name for who they worship. So, I agree with you that they know who they worship, but "Lucifer" is not him. It may be their misconception, but it does not, nor must not, be our misconception as well.
"Although Isaiah 14 most definitely refers to the king of Babylon, we must not reason that because a prophecy had an immediate fulfillment in the lives of those to whom it was directed, that it denies any other possible referents. Many prophecies in the OT had dual referents. In hermeneutics this phenomenon is termed the "double-reference principle." Some of the most famous prophecies of the coming Messiah had both a literal, near fulfillment in mind, and also a more distant, future fulfillment. The words to the serpent in the Garden from God, "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; it will bruise your head, and you will bruise his heel," had a literal fulfillment. This first and foremost refers to the literal hostility that would exist between people and serpents, while noting the fact that people would attack the head of the serpent (indicating a fatal blow), while the serpent would only be able to attack their heels (non-fatal blow).
Of course this statement also had a future fulfillment in
Jesus Christ, the ultimate seed of the woman who crushed
the devil himself at Calvary."
Ethbaal, or Ithobal, was the prince or king of Tyre. However, he is treated as a type or agent of Lucifer in the garden. The king of Babylon is treated as a type of Lucifer and he winds up in Sheol with his harps and harpists to rot on a bed of maggots. The Babylonian harlot of end-time worship is actually Satan, the Devil or Lucifer. Remember the luciferous matches? Well, Lucifer like most words in English are chosen by the translators. Lucifer and Phosphorus were names applied to the fallen stars, wandering stars (planets) which speak of false teachers. We should should be sad that the NIV used a word which associated Satan with Jesus the True Day Star.
We have a real document which shows how Tyre as one of the enemies of Israel used the MAGIC of music to steal and destroy:
THE word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, Ezekiel 28:1
Son of man, say unto the prince of TYRUS, Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: Ezekiel 28:2
Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: Ezekiel 28:3
With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: Ezekiel 28:4
By thy great wisdom and by thy TRAFFICK hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is LIFTED up because of thy riches: Ezekiel 28:5
Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because thou hast set thine heart AS the HEART of God; Ezekiel 28:6
Behold, therefore I will bring STRANGERS upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy BRIGHTNESS. Ezekiel 28:7
They shall bring thee down to the PIT, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. Ezekiel 28:8
Of Babylon as a type of Lucifer:
Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms (maggots) cover thee. Is.14:11
Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. Ezekiel 28:9
Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God. Ezekiel 28:10
Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Ezekiel 28:11
Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of TYRUS, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Ezekiel 28:12
Thou hast BEEN in EDEN the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy TABRETS and of thy PIPES was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Ezekiel 28:13
Of Ezekiel 28:13 which speaks of the "workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes" may speak of the work which the musical instruments were supposed to perform
"Furst takes the words as meaning musical instruments that were of gold set with jewels."
"Ewald, following out the Urim and Thummim idea, takes the gems as the subject of the sentence, and translates, 'they were for the work of thine oracles and divining." (Pulpit Commentary, Ezekiel, p. 102).
Both pipes and tabrets were instruments of diving: most people believed that the "gods" or demons lived inside musical instruments. When played, the sorcerers or witches such as the Witch of Endor sold the idea that the sounds were God inside.
In Greek:
aulos [aêmi to blow]
1. a flute or rather clarionet (for it was played by a mouthpiece, glôssis, Aeschin.), Il., etc.; auloi andrêïoi [male] and gunaikêïoi [female] , Lat. tibiae dextrae and sinistrae, bass and treble, Hdt.; sometimes one person played two auloi at once, Theocr.; aulos Enualiou, i. e. a trumpet, Anth.:-- hup' aulou to the sound of the flute, Hdt.; so, pros aulon, hupo ton aulon Xen.
glôttis = glôssa 111, the mouth-piece of a pipe , Luc.
2. any tube or pipe, as the socket of a spear-head, the groove into which the tongue of a buckle fitted, Hom.; the pipe of bellows, Thuc.:-- aulos pachus, in Od., seems to mean a jet of blood through the tube of the nostril.
The JUDAS BAG was the glossamakon. It was carrried the mouthpieces or tongues of wind instruments. It is derived from speaking in tongues and "of the world." When Jesus fed the SOP (similar to Psallo or melody) Satan CAME INTO HIM and he fled.
ZOE (Eve in the Septuagint) and the ZOE MOVEMENT is attempting to subvert the church and the Word with "musical worship." In the contemporaneous world, Sophia was in the garden as the SERPENT and ZOE was the BEAST and female instructing principle. ZOE was Lucifer.
Who hath taken this counsel against Tyre, the crowning city, whose merchants are princes, whose traffickers are the honourable of the earth? Isaiah 23:8
And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre SING as an HARLOT. Isaiah 23:15
Take an HARP, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten; make sweet MELODY, SING many songs, that thou mayest be remembered. Isaiah 23:16
So don't look for the enemy to be named LUCIFER. He will probably be named Reverend Jimmy Joe Swagger. Someone you love very much. He/she will always be empowered by MAGICA which is quite identical to MUSICA. He/she will have some other-worldly way to attract both male and female. He will lie about the Bible and all of his children will applaud and tell him that he is superior to God and His old Bible.
Satan will be involved in TRAFFICK, USING women, MUSIC as they claim to "lead you into the presence of God." They are SORCERERS and traffickers in that they are PARASITES. Why don't we grasp that? Well, they wouldn't be very good WITCHES OF ENDOR if they couldn't SLICK us and steal our money.
I hope that you understand what Rubel Shelly and that small circle of self-validators are telling you. And remember that Paul told the Corinthians in effect that "fools love to be fooled" and he implicated the super apostles which implicates music and the demand for a "percentage of the take."
The Bible was written to repudiate the prevailing pagan, superstitious religion. Wine, music and perverted sexuality was connected to pagan religions. The Bible OUTLAWS getting drunk with wine and Paul directly connects this to the "Teaching of the inspired text with the singing and melody" left in the heart. However, MOST churches (left or right or middle "shells" trying to hide the "pea.") show the MARK by deliberately ignoring Christ, Paul and most of church history because they have SIGNED A COVENANT with Lucifer in order to GAIN fame and fortune by PROCURING AND USING professional musians and BIG GUN PREACHERS.
Postmodernism works by producing "schizophrenia" to make changes. It is also known to collapse back into PAGAN RITUALS while claiming to bootstrap themselves above the Bible and collective wisdom of the scholarly world. By being LIFTED UP WITH PRIDE, they fulfill the word AIRO used by Paul. This has the same meaning as AOIDE or charismatic singing with or without instruments. Just like Lucifer, by claiming to ascend above God they have been CAST OUT of God's presence. In all of the Contemporaneous literature such as the Book of Enoch, The Book of Jubilees, the Books of Adam and Eve and the three dozen documents we have posted. The character GENUN [The approved Magi of Shelly and of Edward Fudges's Zororasterism as the PRECURSER of Christianity] is the collective Jubal, Jabal, Tubal-Cain and Naamah.
Jubal rimes with Rubel and gave rise to the trumpet (yobel) and the word JUBILEE. Jubilee had NO MEANING unless it was held FOR THE ATONEMENT. Afterward, it was a HOEDOWN of massive blowing of trumpets during which WORSHIP was impossible.
Jubal or Genun spent the rest of his life trying to SEDUCE others away from the Living Word to affirm his own cause of the fall. The GENI or GENIUS or KABIRI were the traveling minstrels, weapon makers, blacksmiths, or enchanters (Naamah). The word "singer-minstrels" is identified by a word meaning strangers, or travellers who did double-duty as prostitutes or sodomites. "Singers" plied their trade around the temple grounds along with the instrumentalists as Sodomites. Not even Levitical, Warrior noise makers ever entered into the type of the CHURCH prefiguring "school" and the PLACE OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT which is the only Biblical or logical place worship can take place. Worship is decreased to the extent that "non sedentary" MALES OR FEMALES make you give heed to them, their words, their songs and their sermons: the Lord is in His Holy Temple, let all the earth keep silence BEFORE HIM. Silence was observed when the High priest came before the Most Holy Place. Shutting up and sitting down the females applied to them because they were the FACILITATORS of all charismatic worship. That did not give all those MALES authority to RISE UP in a dominant position over the church.
Shelly, repudiates the old Scriptures and is PARTNERING with God to get a new supply of Scriptures for the post modern world. As part of the DISCIPLESHIP plan Shelly denies individuals the right to read, interpret or speak the Word of God outside of the community (commune). You will notice that NOT A SINGLE member has had the moral courage to debate on this forum. They know, ala Willow Creek or Saddle Back Purpose Driven Cult that if you let out even hints and are part of the INNER CIRCLE (pitchers mound) you will be "outa here" or if not you will NEVER advance through the steps of the TOWER OF BABEL to get to the temple at the top.
The ideas of Postmodernism are built on the fact that sub atomic particles cannot be "located" without changing their speed or even nature. Shelly believes that applies to BIGGY things like old Biblical texts. What he is basing his REPUTATION and the REPUDIATION of the old supply of Scriptures on is the SILLYISM that if you shine radar on a missle to find its LOCATION you change (huh, huh) its SPEED. Therefore, you cannot predict its arrival at a target!! When seeker missils (I helped wean the Sidewinder) cannot hit their target THEN you can believe Shelly, Lucado and the wrecking crews which have made the "bible colleges" into manufacturing plants for DOCTORS OF THE LAW whom Jesus FIRED because they "take away the KEY to baptism." The KEY given to Peter and others was the GOSPEL CORE bound up in Baptism
The stolen "christian colleges" are the LUCIFER of "Prophets, Chanellers and Facilitators" to seduce Bible teaching churches down from the presence of the Living Word in the Written Word. They, too, believe that if you shine a flashlight on a cockroach you MOVE it out of its position and you CANNOT step on it. I think that means that if you are going to STRIP a widow's heritage away from her heirs (and make her worse than an infidel) I simply would not send a WIDOWS MITE TO THEM: it might get blasted away. Besides, if it was a GOOD thing to do before we were STUNG by SCORPION TAILS, it might be EVIL to give them money if the olden Bible has been obsoleted!
Contrary to being IMPROVIZED or INNOVATED or LIFTED ABOVE yesterday's scholars, THEY are at the IDENTICAL place in the dark valley of the Cainites (Cainites, Kenites, Jews Jesus refused to teach). They are using wine, singing, instruments and show & tell clothing and buildings to SEDUCE people off God's holy mountain. The result was sexual perversion even among fathers and daughters. Heaven knows that the dark morality of today is a PRODUCT of the ANXIETY created by perverted worship and the AFFIRMATION of people by promoting them to the "top of the pyramid" or the Holy Places by claimging that they are MEDIATORS and FACILITATORS of worship. Even Bible 101aaa knows that church is "school of the Bible" and worship is in indivitual hearts. To the extent you follow Jubal, Jubilee and "musical worship teams" you CANNOT worship or Give Heed or "hold the thought of God in your mind" while you are lusting over the "IDOLATRY OF TALENT."
In repudiating the totality of the Bible's rejection of music as worship along with most of church history, the NEW WINESKIN style of worship with spiritual intoxication called enthus O mania (the madness of Corinth), the Shellyites plan to punish and hurt you real bad with their new scriptures which he identifies as "working out your own salvation" with a little help from God. Music can have the same INTOXICATING influence as wine. Feeling a little bit exhilarated is like being a little bit drunk or a little bit pregnant.
The "holy tavernkeeper" (The Holy Spirit in the Wimber, mother of sexual-like music power); or in Shelly and Lucado's claim that the "Spirit is God's song writer and dance master", can be faster with literal or SYMBOLIC pouring out intoxicating wine. Joseph Campbell claims that WINE as an "affect image" has the same power of getting you drunk on real wine--until the mind kicks in. All of the Greek and Latin world would see that as accusing the Spirit of being the MASTER of the pagan temples FACILITATED by brothels where emasculated and sex-changed "priests" performed ALL of the work for the FINANCE MINISTRY.
Shelly claims that he drank beer ONLY to help evangelize foreigners. However, in a short talk at ACU (The Mother) he repudiated churches of Christ which warn against wine, by using the WINE word 10 times to, perhaps, define us as BROTHER KILLERS and FIRE BOMBERS for refusing to BOW to BAAL or the Bablonian Asherah poles when the instruments (arranged in a 666 message) sent the SIGNAL or MARK. The WINESKINS image is the Dionysus musical and perverted image of the Kenite (not children of Israel) who tried it on Jesus as they PIPED in the market place: the Agora was where rhetoricians, sOPHISts (serpents or philosophers), singers, musicians and TECHNE or crafty craftsmen PERFORMED (for pay) as SORCERERS. They were therefore PARASITES because they claimed to PERFORM the service of the defunct sacrificial temples which died when people rose out of CAPTIVITY and pagan, legalistic superstition. Because, in Legend, Apollo sent the LOCUSTS underground, when he as Apollo or Abbadon unleashes them they are the MUSICIANS or MUSES or LOCUSTS or musical performers sent to SEPARATE people according to two MARKS. Music from Satan is the only MARK which appears too often in Scripture to be mistaken.
Here are a few of the MASSIVE collection of evidence to show that the WINESKINNERS are mutual bottom-feeders on scholarly illiteracy: At Mount Sinai and everywhere else they were a LAUGHINGSTOCK clapped and hissed and booed: In literate America they are the worshipful masters of a Satanic religion and, according to Jesus and other passages, they are SONS OF THE DEVIL because they SPEAK ON THEIR OWN. They are, if the olden Bible is true, ancient spirits held in captivity until JUST ABOUT NOW.
kat-auleô , CHARM [enchant: the "serpent" was a musical enchanter] by flute-playing, phobôi (Apollo, Fear) I will flute to you on a ghastly flute, of persons, METHUON kai katauloumenos drinking wine to the strains of the flute, k. pros chelônidos psophon to be played to on the flute with lyre accompaniment [When instruments are intended they are NAMED]
2. c. gen. loci, make a place SOUND with flute-playing, Thphr.Fr.87:-- Pass., resound with flute-playing, nêsos katêuleito Plu.Ant.56 . [Never called MUSIC]
methuôn kai katauloumenos (Drinking and overpowering with the flute.)
I. to play upon the flute to, tinos Plat.:--Pass., of persons, to have it played to one, id=Plat.:--Pass. to RESOUND with flute-playing, Plut.
II. c. acc. pers. to overpower by flute-playing:--generally, to overpower, strike dumb,
Tinos "better than others"
PHARISEE means to claim A SUPERIOR SPIRITUAL CONNECTION WORTHY OF A WAGE. They CLAIM their power from a "holy spirit person" who is neither Father nor Son. They exercise their power by the use of SORCERY which is rhetorical skills which makes the dupe applaud as they are STUNG. The vipers sting is the BURDEN Jesus died to remove. The "sting" is an EXTRA TAX to keep the KIRKE going
Rubel Shelly claims that musical performers can help "lead you into the presence of God." Because God in Christ is the ONLY Mediator between the FATHER (thought of the Spirit) and the PLACE of our human spirit, he and others claim that they are GOD standing in the 'holy places.' I don't think that the Pharisees ever made such a heretical claim.
The VINEYARD and NEW WINESKIN images INTEND to subde you with literal or PRETEND musical instruments. The WINE image gives our YOUTH permission to sing, dance, clape and drink wine CLAIMING that God COMMANDED IT! In the Greek world the MUSIC and WINE image were "locked at the hip." To command people not to get METHUO on Wine Paul outlawed the instruments.
How do I know that to be beyond dispute? Because Paul immediately follows the command with how to SPEAK OR TEACH OR PREACH with "that which is written," the SPIRIT or the Words of Christ. In Romans 15 he repudiated the PLEASURING or charismatic perversion to make "speaking that which is written" to GLORIFY God with ONE MIND and ONE VOICE.
He insisted that worship be IN THE SPIRIT because OUTSIDE are the DOGS or homosexual performers.
II. katauloumenon SUBDUED by a flute accompaniment, To be PIPED down, RIDICULED
......[A CAPPELLA INTENDS TO "LEGALIZE" BY USING HUMAN INSTRUMENTS]
methuô [methu] [only in pres. and imperf.; the fut. and aor. act. belong to methuskô]
I. to be drunken with wine, Od., etc.; m. hupo tou oinou which means Under your Wine [How could this ever be a Paradigm for the Christian assembly or school of the Bible?]
II. metaph. of things, boeiê methuousa aloiphêi an ox-hide soaked in oil, Il.
2. of persons, to be drunken or intoxicated with PASSION, PRIDE, etc., Xen., Plat
hupauleô, play on the flute in accompaniment, melos tisi Alcm. 78 ; penthimon ti D.C.74.5 ; hu. lusiôidos 1 one who played women's characters in male attire, Plut. Posidon.4J. ; Pandionidi Luc. Harm.1 : abs., Id.Salt.83.
Of the "pipes and tabrets" of the king/queen of Tyre as the AGENT of Lucifer--the singing and harp-playing prostitute. Remember that we have shown that Lucifer is another word for ZOE and that Zoe was known as "the Beast and female instructing principle." Zoe (Eve, Inanna) was claimed to be the "mother of the gods." Zoe by her own father produced the little dumb "jehovah." He used singing and instruments to get promoted up to a heaven JUST BELOW the supreme God. There, jehovah was forced to form MUSICAL WORSHIP TEAMS to worship Sophia (the serpent) and Zoe (the beast).
Lucifer is pictured as a TRAFFICKING, singing and harp-playing prostitute who seduced her customers with music and sexuality. We have posted a real life example here:
"Hubernick, who agrees with Keil, calls attention to a passage in Athenaeus (xii. 8. p. 531), in which Strato, a Sidoian king,
Is said to have prepared for a great FESTIVAL by bringing girls who played on the flute and harp from all parts of Greece.. Does that sound like Jubilee 98?.
Furst takes the words as meaning musical instruments that were of gold set with jewels." (Pulpit Commentary, Ezekiel, p. 102).
Here is the BULL HARP or Viol which went into Sheol with the king/queen of Babylon who was an AGENT of Lucifer. They both "rotted on a bed of maggots" on the garbage heap but a harp has been restored from Ur. It is set with jewels, ivory and lapis lazuli:
If you don't GET DRUNK on wine to the tune of the flute (to pollute, prostitute, take your inheritance) the PAUL spoke a command which CANNOT be understood by those who have decided to sing Twila Paris and Preach the latest SOPHIST or RHETORICIAN or "how to cure bad breath or marriages guru as TRAFFICKERS."
Whether you believe this or nor, it is a provable fact that there is NO EXCEPTION TO THE RULE that music AS worship came with Lucifer into the Garden of Eden AFTER causing the fall of the angels by trying to ASCEND UP and bleed off worship from God. And that EVERY Biblcal musical term or name of instrument points directly to the ENEMIES of the LIVING word and therefore you see them as enemies of the WRITTEN WORD. They claim themselves as the PARTNER of God to replace the OLD SCRIPTURES which have been attacked by greater minds and characters and have utterly failed after leaving a trail of blood, discord and tears and wealth--momentarily.
Let me tell you why they ridicule the PATTERN and substitute the word PARADIGM. It is a visible MARK.
"On September 28, 1994, a Congressional subcommittee disclosed that beginning in 1940, up to half a million U.S. citizens were used as human guinea pigs in covert experiments involving psychological, radiation as well as biological and chemical agents."
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...........................THE BOOK
What Happened At the Madison Church of Christ?
There are thousands of churches being taken over across America.
This book is only about one of those churches. It's about the Madison
Church Of Christ. By studying the methods used here along with the resource
references you might be able to inoculate your church. At the very least
you will recognize the signs early on.
Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't
know what happened.
Some never will know! This book is for them as well.
Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was
one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.
It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of
it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word
of Jesus Christ.
At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority
of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly
realm.
They used secrecy, covert planning, and outside sources to scheme and
to change the format and direction of the Madison Church of Christ.
The Elders knew that the membership would never approve such a plan.
Using the tools of the "Community Church Movement"(consultants, books,
seminars, meetings,planters,seeders) they slowly started initiating change
so it was never noticed by the members until it was too late.....
At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to
be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched
through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the
"Community Church Movement"
Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready,
or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the
plans very nature, it had to be secret.
The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was
never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last
15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.
The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the
elders went along unwittingly.
This edition starts shortly after some of the members begin to smell
something strange in January 2001. Later editions may go back and fill
in some of the timeline.
To even start to understand whats happening here, you must read the
background materials in the first of the book.
This is only the first edition, and not the end. New editions will be
printed as needed. To keep abreast of current changes, please visit our
web site; http://www.concernedmembers.com/madison
Here is the list of players;
5 Godly Elders
10 Not so Godly Elders
120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten
commandments)
Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)