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Ken Sublett
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ConcernedMembersMadison
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Re: I am Compelled to Speak Up!

October 14 2016, 12:02 AM 

It is fine to study how women have always been an anchor in the church. However, Galatians 3:28 Does NOT say "Both male and female" as the troublers claim: it says NEITHER male nor female.

Both, says the Peak Power of Theologians, means that BOTH I and sister suzy can be Hired Preachers in the Pulpit even when 1 Corinthians 1 says there will be NO PODIUMS in the church.

Paul said NEITHER can be hired Master Teachers because FAITH comes by hearing and we have ONE FATHER or Teacher.

Paul wanted the men to pray with HOLY hands for PEACE or SILENCE for everyone.
The men were to be silent because THEY can be controlled by bad women to induce WRATH or an ORGY: an orgy is the arousal of anger or sexual arousal by the SINGING which Paul excludes with the word SPEAK which is the opposite of SING.

The Women were to be silent and sedentary because THEY had historically been able to be thrown into the orgy or state Paul called madness in which, induced by wine, drugs or music, she CLAIMED that she spoke from the gods. No straight male would have to be warned not to go singy-clappy.

In all of the women's SILENCE passages the reason was that she was the "witch" let loose by the "warlock" which blasphemed Jesus Christ as the only source of teaching.

1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God
As the ONLY source
.....and ONE mediator between God and men,
.....the MAN Christ Jesus;


Those lusting to have the SISTERS in the office CLAIM to be mediators between God and Man because, as David Young etal say, you cannot understand the Word.

Peter agreed that the PROPHETS defined the Christian System and Jesus of Nazareth required to be our BROTHER "made the prophecies more certain." Peter said this combo was NOT subject to "private interpretation" or further expounding. Those who disobeyed that woud be marked as false teachers. Therefore, any MALE expounder of what Jesus expounded or FEMALE expounder would despise the SPIRIT Who as God's breath revealed and not even Jesus tampered with the Word or Logos which He heard and said "NO MAN knows God but the Son."

Remember the SPEAK which all of the scholars literally SEE as SING and play? Well, they will never be able to read the NEITHER and will insist that lacking that skill, "a" spirit told them that culture had changed because THEY could not see NEITHER because it showed up in their eyeballs as BOTH. Rubel Shelly borders on the old Greek view that your eyeballs "shot" something at the text which bounced back. That may be why ALL of the "terminated" theologians moving beyond the "bible" say that a text Jesus read and understood can NO LONGER be read by "you" because of evolution and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

Because they cannot grasp the truth because God HIDES from the wise, the other extreme is that women cannot teach a man under ANY condition. When the synagogue (Paul's words) assembled everyone sat down in silence while the WORD was read as the pattern for a Christ Purpose Driven Church. Only the rowdy "just out of pagan" women needed and still need to just be quiet with all of the "brothers" and let Jesus do the speaking IF you have at least one APT elder.


 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: I am Compelled to Speak Up!

October 14 2016, 8:54 AM 

There is NEITHER male nor female on this forum: We repeat that 1 Timothy 2 defines NEITHER male or female have AUTHORITY or Authentia which speaks of "self-authoring" because the SINGULAR PIECE OF THE PATTERN. What none of the post-Biblical theologians can grasp because Jesus said that God HIDES from them is that saved or salvation always means MADE SAFE FROM SOMETHING. Paul always SILENCES any performance roles before his singular pattern is possible to "use one MIND and one MOUTH" to SPEAK "that which is written for our LEARNING" or "Scripture for out COMFORT." That silences MEN beyond, as the command and example of Jesus was a singular male READ a prophecy and point to its fulfillment

1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved [KEPT Safe], and to come unto the knowledge of THE truth.
2Tim. 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Heb. 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,


That UNFORGIVABLE SIN is to TASTE the Word (as Spirit and Life) and then DESPISE THE TRUTH or THE WORD. The Word or Logos is ANTI- personal opinions, personal experiences, rhetoric, singing, playing instruments, acting or ANYTHING between speaking as LOGOS which is the OPPOSITE of ODE or SINGING. There is a time and place for listening to SUPERSPEAKERS or musicians but the ABSOLUTE is that the ABOMINATION beginning in Deuteronomy 18 is the same MUSICAL PERFORMANCE in the face of a Holy God Who is offended by anyone claiming authority to STAND BETWEEN Himself and those He gives REST from anything. WORK on the Sabbath (Rest) day outlawed SENDING OUT MINISTERS OF GOD. You cannot MINISTER to people by making them make you wealthy to VIOLATE the Word, Logos or Regulative Principle.

 
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Scripture
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Re: I am Compelled to Speak Up!

October 14 2016, 9:42 AM 

Rancor has to scan a person's physique before he engages in conversation with them.

Or he just call everybody "zhe" and avoid all this.

 
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Scripture
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Re: I am Compelled to Speak Up!

October 14 2016, 9:57 AM 

Rancor is fluxommed--more than he can take.

I think he would like to be a preacher, but he will need to study to become as convincing as Wayne Jackson.

 
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Rancor
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Re: I am Compelled to Speak Up!

October 15 2016, 5:33 AM 



Let us remember that Ken has stated that Concerned Members is his "Church".

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: I am Compelled to Speak Up!

October 15 2016, 8:48 AM 

The command to Timothy and the example of Paul was to WORK so that you can "give attendance to the (public) reading of the Word for doctrine and comfort" when every one else has the same REST time. Donnie and I are "ministers" because WE pay the Bills. The world is defunct when people want to be "ministers" and get paid to plan things for YOU to do 24/7 if they MASSAS could get the field hands to tote dat bale.

A church as synagogue (Paul's terms) or ekklesia is a place to assemble to read and discuss "assemble their minds" on information handed down from a higher authority.

When the Greeks, like the Jews, held one or more festivals or "worship rituals" the Worship Leader paid all of the expenses: he hired a good jokester, a poet, a few singers, instrument players and dancer.

h3009 leitourgia: Definition: a charitable gift, public service in the widest sense; service as of priest or Levite ritual. [Originally, 3009 (leitourgía) was service done by someone in an honorary religious or civic office, leaving a significant impact on the community. 3009 /leitourgía ("sacred ministry, service") later focuses on priestly, Levitical ministration.]


Among the pagan "progressives"

ANATHEMA, atos, to, (anatithēmi)
A. that which is set up: hence, like agalma, votive offering set up in a temple, Hdt.1.14,92, S.Ant.286, etc.; “a. ek leitourgoon” Lys.26.4.
2. used by Hom. only in first sense of agalma, delight, ornament, “molpe t' orkhestus te:


CONTRARY as usual by Jesus Christ:

Acts 13:1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers;
as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen,
which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
Acts 13:2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said,
Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.
Acts 13:3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away.


Paul "assembled" with his groups by slow mail most of the time. When you assemble a group for the ONE PIECE PATTERN of Reading and discussing and mutually confessing the passage for the day, and like Paul, who DISCOURSED until midnight, you could go downstairs and get a snack.

 
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Rancor
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Friends !!

October 26 2016, 6:41 PM 


Scripture (Ze), I have obtained info on your gender. It's good to have friends in the Nashville area. Your secret is safe with me. Maybe we can be friends. happy.gif


 
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Rancor
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...SSSSS...

October 26 2016, 7:27 PM 


 
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Donnie
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Re: Friends !!

October 26 2016, 11:59 PM 

Rancor,

What a relief it is! On your part. How much suffering did you go through? So, you weren't friends before? sad.gif

 
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Donnie
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Re: ...SSSSS...

October 27 2016, 12:09 AM 

The video. Those sisters cheerleading and dancing!!! Does your church do such practices?

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: ...SSSSS...

October 27 2016, 12:17 AM 

That is the meaning of WRATH, orge or and ORGY. That means that the senior pastor person does not have HOLY HANDS to lift to prevent it so the singular purpose "So that all might be SAFE and come to a knowledge of the truth."

 
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Dave
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SING and DANCE DANCE DANCE

October 27 2016, 11:53 AM 

Does yours???

 
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