Jesus warned you about PROFESSIONALS: Doctors of the LAW take away the key to knowledge.August 21 2006 at 11:44 PM
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The MARK: The synagogue of Christ HAS NO STAFF INFECTION. You have been warned about those who preach LIBERTY.
Someone has to be the BLIND leaders: why not YOU? Someone has to be the led BLIND: Why not you? If you are a huckster selling the FREE WORD at retail, and you FINALLY catch on, make sure that you don't do the Judas maneuver. If you are the BLIND one then God has not GRACE for you. Your blood is off my hands.
Jesus said that God had hidden TRUTH in parables or prophetic types FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. Therefore, Matthew 24 is a prophetic type which had earlier and latter messages for those with eyes and ears:
Matt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
Matt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Matt 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered [synagogued] together [synagogued]
The CARCASE, of course, is the WORLD CHURCH which is totally corrupt. The eagles have a LEFT wing and a RIGHT wing. It means beating of WIND
which you see as the hucksters trying to KEEP YOU from breaking up their TRADE as silversmiths and WORDsmiths. Don't be fooled: the Bible gives great detail about the end time when the WOLVES will lead people away for their OWN USES. If YOU cannot grasp it then PETER was speaking of you who PERVERT the Word to your own destruction. Wolves MEANS pervert.
Musical Idolatry of the "trinity" was a sin beyond redemption at Mount Sinai.
God ABANDONED them to worship the STARRY HOST and gave them a LAW like the Nations and they would worship like the NATIONS.
The LAW or national worship was sabeanism or STAR worship.
The LAW led to NATIONAL musical sacrificial system
The "people" were quarantined OUTSIDE of the gates
Paul used common words understood by everyone to say that LAW was outside of the human spirit or mind.
That was the PLACE where the musical catamites prowled like elders as "wolves" meaning perverted.
You CANNOT please God if you PLEASE the "audience"
That is why MOST churches are dominated by the Babylon whore of Revelation 18.
Her singers, musicians and all STAFF INFECTION perform the role OF sorcery.
The result is that God REMOVES the candles and you cannot see the LIGHT again.
Jesus defined and Paul commanded worship in the PLACE of the human spirit or heart. He said that the converted Jews NOW worshipped in the SPIRIT. He said that OUTSIDE of the human mind there are DOGS or the CYNICS who used arousal singing to SEDUCE their customers. This was THE PATTERNISM for pagan religions which used vocal and instrumental music to create the "spiritual anxiety" Jesus died to remove.
Rom 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh,Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus
but after the spirit [YOUR spirit]
hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Being FREE from the Law of Moses imposed because of musical idolatry means that people are not obligated to go to synagogue or temple to WORSHIP but rather to REST and read the Word of God. This freedom is:
G1659 eleuthero el-yoo-ther-o'-o From G1658 ; to liberate, that is, (figuratively)
to exempt (from moral, CEREMONIAL or mortal liability): deliver, make free.
That means that you DO NOT OWN anything but love for the DESTITUTE. If they lie about the lie of tithing or the law of GIVING then DON'T go there. The burden of the Law was "spiritual anxiety through religious rituals."
Come unto me all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you REST. Mt.11:28
The Greek word PAUO is highly dedicated to saying STOP the preaching, singing, playing instruments: just stop the PANIC. Rest means REPOSE: Lamb repose but GOATS jump and dance.
This burden is treating people like pack animals: ALL singing words point directly to creating SPIRITUAL anxiety and is therefore always defined as enchantment, witchcraft or by John in Revelation 18 as SORCERY.
Phortizo (g5412) for-tid'-zo; from 5414; to load up (prop. as a vessel or animal), i.e. (fig.) to OVERBURDEN with CEREMONY (or spiritual anxiety): - lade, be heavy laden.
Epôidos [epaidô]I. singing to or over: as Subst. an ENCHANTER II. in metre, epôidos, ho, a verse or passage returning at intervals, a chorus, BURDEN Phortion 1 [phortos] 1. a load, burden, Ar., Xen. 2. a ship's freight or lading, Lycurg.: in pl. wares, MERCHANDISE , 4. metaph., ph. arasthai to take a heavy burden upon one, Dem.
Airô III. to RAISE UP up, exalt, Aesch.:--of passion, to EXHALT, excite, hupsou airein thumon to grow EXCITED 2. to raise by WORDS, to extol, EXAGGERATE
III. to raise up, sôtêra tini Soph.: of sound, airesthai phônên to RAISE, lift up one's voice, Ar.
This is the SELF PLEASING which was the pagan musical practices in Rome and which were OUTLAWED for the assembly or synagogue in Romans 15 and in Paul's teaching "that which had been delivered."
"Professional" preachers, musicians or STAFF INFECTION make merchandise of you and are therefore PROSTITUTES:
2 Cor 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
A CORRUPTER is a professional SPEAKER or MUSICIAN: no SINCERE person ever SANG FOR HIS SUPPER: they called them PARASITES.
Kapêl-euô , A. to be a retail-dealer, drive a petty trade
2. mathêmata sell learning by retail, hawk it about ,n logon tou theou 2 Ep.Cor.2.17 ; Chariti tên amoibên Epicur.Sent.Vat.39 ; k. tên politeian traffic in grants of citizenshipl, of prostitutes, playing tricks with life,
You cannot RAISE YOUR VOICE in ritual preaching and follow JESUS CHRIST who "never cried out" in this sense. You cannot LIFT your voice to LIFT UP the people with anxiety without being an enemy of Jesus Christ. The word SPEAK in the ekklesia or speaking the WORD is the Latin:
Loquor [Sanscr. lap-, to talk, WHISPER; to speak, talk, say (in the language of common life, in the tone of conversation; cf. Quint. 9, 4, 10; 11, 3, 45).A. To speak, declare, show, indicate or express clearly
The Greek Logik-os, ( [logos] )
A. of or for speaking or speech, merê l. the organs of speech, Plu.Cor.38: logikê, hê, speech, OPPOSITE to mousikê,
The LAW which was a LADED BURDEN by a Gentile or NATIONAL system was opposed to The Book of the Covenant. It included THE WORSHIP OF LAW "a goddess." She was the "starry host" including Saturn (sabbath) whose Chaldee number is 666 and the other "wandering stars" which identify the FALLEN ANGELS under Lucifer called "the singing and harp playing PROSTITUTE in the garden of Eden."
Nomos a Law practiced in Egypt but not imposed by God. When Israel fell into musical idolatry at Mount Sinai He "turned them over to worship the starry host" (Acts 7, Stephen). The MUSES are leading you into the PRESENCE of the DEVIL or LUCIFER who thought that he/she had overcome Jehovah!
I. usage, custom, [Mousai] melpontai pantôn te nomous kai êthea kedna Hes.Th.66
Mousa I. the Muse, in pl the Muses, GODDESSES of song, music, poetry, dancing, the drama, and all fine arts, They are the LOCUSTS under Apollyon in Revelation under Satan.
II. melody, strain, oida d' ornichôn nomôs pantôn Alcm.67 ; n. hippios Pi.O. 1.101 ; APOLLON hageito pantoiôn n. Id.N.5.25 ; n. polemikoi Th.5.69 ; epêlalaxan Arai ton oxun n. A.Th.952 (lyr.); krektoi n. S.Fr. 463 , cf. AP9.584: metaph., tous Haidou n. S.Fr.861 .
2. esp. a type of early melody created by Terpander for the lyre as an accompaniment to Epic texts, n. orthios Hdt.1.24 ; n. Boiôtios S.Fr.966 ; n. kitharôidikoi Ar.Ra.1282 Phorm-inx A. lyre, freq. in Hom., esp. as the instrument of Apollo who is Apollyon of Revelation.
They SING the LAWS of Satan or Apollo!! They LOOK TO THE HILLS OR MOUNTAIN GODS.
Hesiod, Theogony There are their bright dancing places and beautiful homes, and beside them the Graces and Himerus (Desire) live  in delight. And they, uttering through their lips a lovely voice, sing the laws of all and the goodly ways of the immortals, uttering their lovely voice. Then went they to Olympus, delighting in their sweet voice, with heavenly song, and the dark earth resounded
 about them as they chanted and a lovely sound  These things, then, the Muses sang who dwell on Olympus, nine daughters begotten by great Zeus, Cleio and Euterpe, Thaleia, Melpomene and Terpsichore, and Erato and Polyhymnia and Urania and Calliope,3 who is the chiefest of them all,  for she attends on worshipful princes: whomever of heaven-nourished PRINCES the daughters of great Zeus honor and behold at his birth,
rose up beneath their feet as they went to their father.
And he was reigning in heaven,
himself holding the lightning and glowing thunderbolt,
when he had overcome by might his father Cronos;
and he distributed fairly to the immortals their portions and declared their privileges.
they pour sweet dew upon his tongue,
and from his lips flow gracious words.
If they have SMOOTH TONGUES look because it is forked. The PLEASURING Paul outlawed for the assembly in Romans 15 includes the:
Dêmagôgeô d. andras curry favour with [men] to be won over, conciliated by popular arts, The DEMAGOGUE or TYRANT uses
1. a place for seeing, esp. a theatre, the spectators, "the house,"
3. = theama, a show, spectacle
The Bible is EXPLICIT in EXCLUDING music when it says SPEAK. If our assembly is devoted to the FLESH it is impossible to please God. God does not judge by what he HEARS or by what He SEES (Isa 11:-14).
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the FLESH, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:This says that those who attempt to AROUSE you are NOT and CANNOT be the children of God.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us,
who walk not after the flesh,Romans 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh CANNOT please God.
but [walk] after the Spirit. [our MINDS]
Romans 8: 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Romans 8: 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
If YOU laught it this then I laugh at you.
IN LATIN the SELF PLEASING or Keeping in Suspense EXCLUDES actors, singers, poets of musicians.
All PERFORMERS: Legalists, teach the LAWS of Apollyon
|August 23 2006, 1:39 PM |
To determine whether you have LEGALISTS in your "worship service" even if Jesus built and Paul commanded a SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE, look to see whether you have STAFF who are WAGED to mediate the FREE water of the Word--for which God said you SHOULD NOT PAY (Isa 55)--in song or sermon or instrument or dance or drama. If you have a singer or musician they PROPHESIED to SING the LAWS of Apollo who is the Apollyon in Revelation. Already, the major FACILITATORS of the "new style musical worship" which is from old style Babylon, have PREACHED and you have PAID THEM that the "Bible has been sifted of all truth but seven facts ABOUT Jesus Christ." All of the rest are confused fragments of confused apostles. Therefore, YOU are liberated to NARRATE your own story and put YOURSELF in as a superior Moses or a more powerful CHRIST. Once you SUCKED THAT ONE from the "tallest tree in the MIDST of the garden" you were ready to GO ALL THE WAY and, as at Mount Sinai, think you are PROGRESSIVE but God calls you a LAUGHINGSTOCK. In Revelation and many other MUSIC passages the music is the MARK that God has already REMOVED the candles because you are aband of SORCERS.
The CROOKED generation to whom Jesus refused to preach are defined by MUSICAL PERFORMERS. Jesus CAST OUT the musical minstrels LIKE DUNG. He said that the SECTARIANS on the dole in Jerusalem were SONS of the Devil. He knew the MARK: they speak ON THEIR OWN. If the Singers (parasite) is singing HIS/HER own songs then they are NOMOS or legalists for the Devil. No PhDuh will ever find any exception in the Bible or contemporaneous literature.
Why do elders suddenly betray the "owners" who decided to follow THEM only when they "teach that which is written" and "watch the outcome of their lives"? Paul warned of WOLVES which would naturally infiltrate the elderSHIP but only after they USURPED authority neither God nor the OWNERS of the church property granted them. The word WOLVES then and now identified the lovers of young boys. And certainly no male who would sing, clap and bounce around can be past puberty.
The instrumentalists who point to HISTORY to prove that the word PSALLO permits the use of musical instruments FAIL TO TELL YOU that without exception the MALES plucking the harp strings were SEDUCING young males who had their hair PLUCKED to serve as "ministers of the gods."
Wolf This now archaic term was used in New York's homosexual underworld early in the 20th Century to refer to an adult man who pursued boys as sexual partners. The wolf often identified as heterosexual, and his sexual behavior fit the pattern of Greco-Roman pederasty. This form of same-sex eroticism may have come to New York via Italian immigrants. In many regions of Italy at the time, pederasty was tolerated, or at least not as stigmatized as it is today.
Of the Clanging Cymbals and the "wailing" of the musical ministers and CYNICS Paul called DOGS who must be kept out of SPIRIT WORSHIP. Paul was speaking of pagan religions, sorcerers or warriors when he used the term CLANGNING CYMBALS.
klang-ê , hê, metapl. dat. klangi Ibyc.56 : ( [klazô] ):--any sharp sound, e.g. twang of the bow, Il.1.49; scream of birds, esp. cranes,
to which are compared confused cries of a throng
grunting of swine, Od. 14.412; later,
howling of WOLVES and lions,
HISSING of serpents,
baying of DOGS ,
also, of musical instruments, of Cassandra's prophecies
of the scream of the Harpies, A.R.2.269.
If you see half of the CROWD flee their own property YOU have a problem: you should understand that you have a BAD ACTOR as "pastor" or some bad actors who dismiss you by telling you to "get over it or get out." Do you need a PhDuh to grasp what is going on?
The MUSES or musicians in Revelation 18 are the LOCUSTS well known as "musical performers." They are UNDER the holy whore (Zoe) or mother goddess and all singers, players or rhetoricians are defined by John as SORCERERS. Because even Simple Simons knew that musicians contributed NOTHING but entertainment a guitarIST is also defined as a PARASITE.
IN LATIN the SELF PLEASING or Keeping in Suspense SPECIFICIALLY EXCLUDES actors, singers, poets of musicians. The word REST or PAUO specificially excludes speaking, singing, playing instruments or anything which would disturb the SPIRIT'S rest which would PREVENT hearing the words of Jesus Christ.
However, take a look at the GREEK word for SELF PLEASING by comparing it with the Hebrew word:
The LADED BURDEN by which the CLERGY takes captive the LAITY (Nicolaitains) is "spiritual anxiety created by religious rituals." A burden in hebrew is:
Massa (h4853) mas-saw'; from 5375; a burden; spec. tribute, or (abstr.) porterage; fig. an utterance, chiefly a doom, espec. singing; mental, desire: - burden, carry away, prophecy, * they set, song, tribute.
All of the instrumental Psalms were procession songs or the "warrior's panic songs" intending to sound the doom of the enemy to make then submit or turn coward and retreat. The song was in effect OUR GOD CAN DESTROY YOUR GOD. The word PRAISE means to MAKE SELF VILE and so disgusting that the enemy didn't want to touch you the threat was often to sodomize the captives (as making Samson GRIND and SPORT) before you killed them. Therefore, these songs were threats against even Isral. The word is from:
Nasa (h5347) accept, advance, arise, (able to, [armour], suffer to) bear (-er, up), bring (forth), burn, carry (away), cast, contain, desire, ease, exact, exalt (self), extol... utterly, wear, yield
The SELF pleasing Paul outlaws for the "synagogue" in Romans 15 is from the Greek equivalent to NASA:
Aresko (g700) ar-es'-ko; prob. from 142 (through the idea of exciting emotion); to be agreeable (or by impl. to seek to be so): - please.
Airo (h142) ah'ee-ro; a prim. verb; to lift; by impl. to take up or away; fig. to raise (the voice), keep in suspense (the mind); spec. to sail away (i.e. weigh anchor); by Heb. [comp. 5375] to expiate sin: - away with, bear (up), carry, lift up, loose, make to doubt, put away, remove, take (away, up).
This kind of charismatic singing was practiced by ALL of the sectarian groups in Rome. Paul taught that those things which appeal to the human appetite are EXCLUDED from the assembly or synagogue or school of the Bible.
The LAW and the "gods" to whom God abandoned Israel because of Musical Idolatry which rejected The Book of The Covenant of Grace (Abrahamic) was, according to Stephen, and the Old Testament record the STARRY HOST. This was personified in the Greek THRESKIA form of "worship" which included sacrifices, singing, playing and other activities which led to Sodomy (Rom 1).
Therefore LEGALISM is from the word NOMOS.
Nomos, ho, ( [nemô] ) can mean "the Law of God" which was ADDED because of the Musical Idolatry.
A. that which is in habitual practice, use or possession, not in Hom. (cf. J.Ap.2.15), though read by Zenod. in Od.1.3.
I. usage, custom, [Mousai] melpontai pantôn te nomous kai êthea kedna Hes.Th.66n. archaios aristos
This TRADITIONALISM which has been re-invented to fulfill Revelation 18 and the rise of the Babylon Whore "new style worship" from old style Babylon includes the
I. the Muse, in pl. the Muses, goddesses of song, music, poetry, dancing, the drama, and all fine arts, Hom.: the names of the nine were Clio, Euterpe, Thalia, Melpomene, Terpsichore, Erato, Polymnia or Polyhymnia, Urania, and Calliope, Hes.,
II. mousa, as appellat., music, song, Pind., Trag.:--also eloquence, Eur.:--in pl. arts, accomplishments, Ar., Plat.
Melpô to sing or CELEBRATE. This "arousal singing" was always associated with Phoibos who was the BRIGHT ONE who is also Lucifer and Zoe. He competed with the Pythian spirit Paul cast out of the little TRAFFICING girl USED by men.
MUSICAL melody does not include PSALLO used by false religionists to really practice the MELODY associated with the Devil.
II. melody, strain, oida d' ornichôn nomôs pantôn Alcm.67 ; n. hippios Pi.O. 1.101; Apollôn hageito pantoiôn n. Id.N.5.25 ; n. polemikoi Th.5.69 ; epêlalaxan Arai ton oxun n. A.Th.952 (lyr.); krektoi n. S.Fr. 463 , cf. AP9.584: metaph., tous Haidou n. S.Fr.861
2. esp. a type of early melody created by Terpander for the lyre as an accompaniment to Epic texts, n. orthios Hdt.1.24 ; n. Boiôtios S.Fr.966 ; n. kitharôidikoi Ar.Ra.1282 , cf. Pl.Lg.700d, Arist.Po.1447b26, Pr.918b13, etc.; also for the flute, n. aulôidikos Plu.2.1132d ; without sung text, n. aulêtikos ib.1133d, cf. 138b, Poll.4.79; later, composition including both words and melody, e.g. Tim.Pers. Phorm-inx A. lyre, freq. in Hom., esp. as the instrument of Apollo
However, as PSALLO was never a MUSIC WORD but a warfare and ceased to include an instrument, the instruments introduced by Terpander fell into disuse.
Rhapso-dus Epic verses were originally sung to musical accompaniment, but after the time of Terpander, as lyric poetry became more independently cultivated, the accompaniment of stringed instruments fell into disuse; and then gradually, instead of a song-like recitation, a simple declamation, in which the rhapsodist held a branch of bay in his hand, came to be generally adopted. This had happened even before the time of Plato and Aristotle (see especially Plato's Ion).
As in earlier times the singers moved from place to place, in order to get a hearing at the courts of princes or before festive gatherings, so the rhapsodists also led an unsettled and wandering life.
That is the meaning of Paul who commanded that we ODE or SPEAK the Word of God. In the Greek ekklesia the concept of SPEAK meant to "whisper or use conversational tone." When used of the WORD "speak EXCLUDED music."
|August 24 2006, 5:12 PM |
I think you like to hear yourself speak and make long, very long posts. The sad part is that no one understands anything you put down and no one will read it because it makes no sense. Take it from an Ad Designer, speak like your talking to a child, not a bibical guru. Keep it short and easy to understand. I bet you will get better responses and you might actually start a conversation that is helpful and interesting.
|August 25 2006, 11:51 AM |
Look at the blue!
it is from the dictionary.
if you will reed from the McGuffy blue book
it says that legalism (?ummmm?: you know like when mommy hates red lights and says ugly things?)
It says that legalism is not what the preacher says:
Legalism is like when the boys and girls get up and sing and clap for Jesus and money? Well when Jesus opens your eyes you will see that they are teaching the LAWS of the Devil.
Get your Ad Riter to get the book of Revelation. Then reed to him where John said that they are really sorcerers. What is a sorcerer? Jesus and John says they are WITCHES.
|August 26 2006, 12:26 PM |
I believe that the Bible is our law. But here is what else I found from my studies, you may have missed it. It's a book about LOVE and GRACE. How are you to judge. How are you to limit God's love and grace. I think you need to reevaluate your view on God. I can tell you in one word about God's love and grace, UNLIMITED! Look that up in your dictionary.
|August 26 2006, 12:42 PM |
This is the most UNChirst Like attitude I have ever seen. That thorn must really hurt.
HUH? July 17 2006, 9:52 PM
Marky, mark: iffen you are not color blind then just read the BLUE. That is all quoting the Bible. How about reading the BLUE stuff (sorry colors drive you into a state but I try to kee ME separated) and see if you want to mock the Bible and historical scholars.
I will hystericate about church in the wilderness, synagogue and ekklesia to show that Jesus founded a SCHOOL OF THE BIBLE. Now, maybe you can extrapolate that if Jesus commanded to make DISCIPLES rather than pagan "worshipeSr" then you need you a SCHOOL in order to TEACH that which has been taught: that's a LAW.
Did that computerate: Disciples go to School.
Pagan cultists go to TEMPLE out of fear of God and the priestess.
How would YOU put that? I quite easily understand that MARK is speaking about MARK and that is much easier than to try to clarify what Jesus Christ FOGGED up for the TRAFFICATORS by the use of PARABLES. And Paul is hard to understand.
If everyone reads SPEAK and can only see MAKE MUSIC then you may understand the problem. Paul told the Jews that until they TURNED to Christ (meaning to be baptized) they could not read BLACK TEXT on WHITE PAPER.'
That probably holds true for BLUE text on white paper.