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Ken Sublett
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Big Day at Richland!

February 11 2007, 5:29 PM 

hided at the Richland Forum for quoting The Book of Enoch which he presumes will NULLIFY all of the quoted Bible, I respond:

Yes, I know I quoted The Book of Enoch but so did Jude, Peter and others MANY times. Jude quotes The Book of Enoch who defines the MUSICAL IDOLATERS as the FOR WHOM God comes to execute judgment JUST AS He did to bring a FIREY LAW as punishment for musical idolatry of the TRIAD at Mount Sinai. That fits with Isaiah 30 which shows FOR WHOM Topheth or "hell" was prepared and Revelation 17 which defines the LOVE of the Mother of Harlots and Revelation 18 which defines them as SORCERERS. Whatever the sex of the sacred singers they "constituted the HAREM of the Gods." No, don't get fooled: God turned the Israelites over to Canaanite Baalism which in origin was the Mother of Harlots.

Rev 17:1 AND there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: Rev 17:1

Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Rev 17:5

WHAT ARE THE MARKS OF THESE Sacred Prostitutes or Qedeshim in all religionism marked by Music even as the Nahash or Musical Enchanter in the garden?

Baal: Look to the Hills: Celbrates victory over Yahm

1. "Do not lower [your heads]."
2. Then Radamin does service to the Mightiest
3. Ba´al; he does wait upon [honor] the Prince, Lord of
4. the Earth. He does rise, he sets the table prepares food
5. and gives it to him to eat;
6. he divides a breast before him,
7. with a sharp blade
8. he does cut up a fatling. He does get up,
9. he makes ready a feast and gives him drink;
10. he places a cup into his hands,
11. a flagon into both his two hands,
12. a large beaker, great to see, a jar
13. of [men of heaven (D/G)/ sky folk (Ga)], a holy cup
14. such which should never women behold, a goblet
15. such which should never `Athirat set her eye on; a thousand
16. pitchers he takes of (new autumn) wine,

Or: 16. barrels it holds, wine enough (Ga)

17. ten thousand he mixes in - his mixture (D/G)/the mixing bowl (C).
Or: 17. to be mixed in ten thousand portions. While he is mixing it, (Ga)
18. One does rise, one chants and sings,
19. cymbals in the hands of the minstrel;
20. sings the youngster with a sweet voice

21. over Ba´al in the Heights
22. of Tsaphon, the North. Catches sight does Ba´al of
23. his daughters, he sets his eye on Pidraya
24. daughter of `Ar/mist/light; also on Talaya
25. daughter of Rabb; Pidar knows

B Col. ii

1. There comes she, bathed in the scent
2. of henna enough for seven maidens, in a scent
3. of coriander/saffron and ambergris/murex. Closes the gates
4. of the house does ´Anat and meets she the messengers
5. at the base of the mountain. And lo, ´Anat
6. gives battle in the valley;
Mightily she cuts in pieces the people of
7. the two cities; She slaughters the people of the Western Shore;
8. She destroys the men of the Eastern Sunrise.
9. Beneath her like balls roll heads,
10. above her like locusts fly palms of HANDS; like avenging grasshoppers
11. are the hands of the quick warriors. She hangs
12. heads on her back; she binds
13. hands to her belt. Up to her knees she wades
14. in blood of the swift soldiers, to her thighs in the gore
15. of quick warriors. With her shafts she drives out
16. the enemies; with her bow-string the foes.

17. And lo, ´Anat to her house proceeds;
18. Betakes herself does the goddess to her palace.
19. But not sated is she with the fighting in the valley,
20. by her cutting down the sons of the (two) cities. She sets up
21. chairs for swift soldiers; she sets up tables
22. for troops; footstools for heroes.
23. Greatly she battles and beholds;
24. ´Anat hews & cleaves and observes;
25. Swelled are her innards with laughter, filled
26. is her heart with joy, the liver of ´Anat with
27. triumph.
Up to her knees she wades in blood
28. of swift soldiers, to her thighs in the gore of quick warriors.
29. until she is sated she fights in the house.
30. she hews and cleaves amid the tables. Wiped
31. from the house is the blood of swift soldiers; Poured (out) is oil
32. of peace[-offering] (for peace & well-being) from a bowl. She washes her hands,
33. Batalat ´Anat, the Maiden; her fingers, Yabamat Li`imim: the Kindred of the Peoples (of Ugarit)/ Thousand (Deities);
34. She washes her hands of the blood of swift soldiers,
35. her fingers of the gore of quick warriors.
36. Puts back chairs with chairs, tables
37. with tables, footstools she puts back with footstools.
38. She scoops up water and washes,
39. in dew of the Heavens, oil of the Earth (i.e., fat of the land), rain
40. from Rider of the Clouds / which pour the clouds; dew that the heavens pour out,
41. rain the stars pour, spray the stars shed.
42. She adorns herself with murex [scarlet], one thousand tracts away
43. its source in the sea.


Singing over and over is called ENCHANTMENT or SORCERY:
    Nachash (h5172) naw-khash'; a prim. root; prop. to hiss, i. e. whisper a (magic) spell; gen. to prognosticate: - * certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) * enchantment, learn by experience, * indeed, diligently observe.

    Nachash "snake, serpent" with nshk "bite" provides a link between two verses in Amos speaking of the impossibility of escape Amos 5:19 and 9:3 - nachash often either carries overtones of the serpent in Eden (Gen 3) or of the mythology of Canaanite cultures (Is 27:1).

it was prophesied that Jesus would be so AFFLICTED by this same Anath
Anan (h6051) aw-nawn'; from 6049; a cloud (as covering the sky), i. e. the nimbus or thunder-cloud: - cloud (-y).

Anammelek (h6048) an-am-meh'-lek; of for. or.; Anammelek, an Assyrian deity: - Anammelech.A god worshiped by the Sepharvites in Samaria under the Assyrian régime, along with the god Adrammelech (II Kings, xvii. 31). Anu was the chief of the old Babylonian trinity, Anu, Bel, and Ea [patron god of music];

Anath (h6067) an-awth'; from 6030; answer; Anath, an Isr.: - Anath.

Used in the NAS (92) - afflict, 16; afflict him at all, 1; afflicted, 22; affliction, 1; cry, 3; disturbed, 1; do violence, 1; force, 1; howl, 1; humble, 12; humbled, 6; humbling, 1; mistreat, 1; oppressed, 1; oppressors, 1; ravish, 1; ravished, 2; sang, 2; silenced, 1; sing, 7; singing, 1; submit, 1; treated her harshly, 1; violate, 1; violated, 5; weakened, 1;

Anan (h6049) aw-nan'; a prim. root; to cover; used only as denom. from 6051, to cloud over; fig. to act covertly, i. e. practise magic: - * bring, enchanter, observe (-r of) times, soothsayer, sorcerer.

There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, De.18:10

"In an inscription from Cyprus, in one from Rhodes and in several from around the district of Carthage, there are references to important personages who bear the title Mqm'lm which we can translate as AROUSERS of the god.'" (de Vaux, Roland, The Bible and the Ancient Near East, Doubleday, p. 247).

"A similar practice is attested in connection with the cult of Herakles-Melkart. [TYRE TYPE OF LUCIFER] According to Menander, as he is quoted by Josephus, the king Hiram, who was a contemporary of Solomon, rebuilt the temples of Tyre and, 'he was the first to celebrate the awakening of Heracles in the month of Peritius.'" (de Vaux, Roland, The Bible and the Ancient Near East, Doubleday p. 247)

"We even have a mention at a later date of a similar custom in connection with the cult in Jerusalem, where certain Levites, called me'oreim, 'AROUSERS,' sang (every morning?) this verse from "Ps 44:23: "Awake, O Lord! Why do you sleep? Rouse yourself! Do not reject us forever." The Talmud tells us that John Hyrcanus suppressed the practice because it recalled too readily a pagan custom." (Roland de Vaux, p. 247).

23. Peckham 1987:84-87: the association of Astarte with the dying god, Eshmun, may well be related to child sacrifice, as Peckham; Robertson 1982:329. Given the parallel to Genesis 22, the tradition of Kronos sacrificing his only son as a part of the Phoenician cult looks to be related to the thriving business of infant sacrifice in Phoenician culture.

The mourning ritual connected with Astarte in KAI 37 and elsewhere, and the tradition of "raising the god" (mqm 'lm), identified as Astarte's bridegroom in KAI 44:2, in Phoenician epigraphs (c.f. the Eqron epigraph, lmqm, in the seventh c., where other indications of Phoenician influence are present), suggest the importance of the cycle through the underworld in this cult.<>

How could anyone doubt that when God TURNED THEM OVER to worship the starry host including singing to arouse or awaken their gods whom Elijah chided might have 'turned aside to take a leak."


Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. [seed pickers]

Rev 18:14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; Rev 18:22

Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

Paul in 1 Cor 10 pointed back to the musical idolatry of the triad and called it DEMON WORSHIP. Let's say that in the whole universe of Greek scholars--please advise ACU or give up your franchise--the can prove that CONNECTING THE DOTS is just the wackos of a engineer without a PhDuh in Babble, then LET'S see how one is so dogmatically certain that he has NEW REVELATIONS which will TRUMP all of the Bible and all known literature TO WHICH the Bible points for anyone who claims SPIRITUAL SUPERIORITY to proclaim a NEW, LATTER-DAY REVELATION and deny that it defines the PHARISEE just as all religious performance is defined by Jesus as the SECTARIAN HYPOCRITES.

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Ken Sublett
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Hitler: Rock and Roll to Steal your Soul.

February 14 2007, 12:19 AM 

It has been well documented that the NEW STYLE HERESY from old Style Babylon has no remote connection with Biblical doctrine NOR Biblical ethics and minimal morality. The CHANGE methods have flowed down: Plato warned that new styles had to be introduces slowly and at first as entertainmment. He knew that those who CHANGE the music intend to CHANGE the Laws and music is the way introduced by "Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute" in the garden of Eden. That is why we ALWAYS see INSTRUMENTS especially as a MARK of those who repudiate the Word of God and intend to BLEED OFF worship for themselves. When you hear preaching which is not Biblical Peter said that it is a MARK of a false teacher. There is no other way to GUARANTEE the honesty of a preacher. In the same way, from Genesis to Revelation the performance speakers, singers and musicians are MARKS to identify the SORCERERS used by the Mother of Harlots. God always gives us a way of escape by CLEAR signs or marks. In our soon post on 2 Thessalonians 2 the MUSES or musicians are the SIGNS of the son of perdition and we will prove it.

It has also been noted that Shelly appeals to Machiavelli to explain why it takes SO LONG to change: it was, as the Prince makes clear, because "the people have law on their side" and don't want a new PRINCE (or princess as singers)

Le Bon and Hegel have been discussed as the BIBLE for those who just PLAY GAMES to see if they can really DEFEAT the church of Christ. Wagner was Hitler's Musical Worship Minister without which he could not have burned 6 million. He was ALSO certain that God TOLD him to kill all of the Jews becuase "Jesus killed a million in Jerusalem."

Hitler would explain Experience this way:

"But the community of the great demonstration not only strengthens the individual, it also unites and helps to create an esprit de corps.
"The man who is exposed to grave tribulations, as the first advocate of a new doctrine in his factory or workshop,
absolutely needs that strengthening which lies in the conviction of being a member and fighter in a great comprehensive body.

"And he obtains an impression of this body for the first time in the MASS demonstration. When from his little workshop or big factory, in which he feels very small, he steps for the first time into a mass meeting and has thousands and thousands of people of the same opinions around him, when,

as a SEEKER (Als Suchender.' A Wagnerian phrase, which Hitler was apparently determined to use at all costs)
he is swept away (Peatross' Vortex) by three or four thousand others into the mighty effect of suggestive intoxication and enthusiasm,
"when the visible success and agreement of thousands confirm to him
the rightness of the new doctrine and for the first time

arouse doubt in the truth of his previous conviction -
then he himself has succumbed to the MAGIC influence of what we designate as 'mass suggestion.'
The will, the longing, and also the power of thousands are accumulated in every individual.

The man who enters such a meeting doubting and wavering leaves it inwardly reinforced:
he has become a link in the community.


Contrary to being a "new discovery" of Post Modernism,

"In all of these early cultures the social functions of music were essentially the same since their climate, geographic location, cultural pace, and mutual influences produced many more social similarities than differences.

The primary function of music was apparently religious, ranging from heightening the effect of "magic" to ennobling liturgies.

The other musical occasions depicted in both pictures and written accounts were equally functional:

stirring incitements to military zeal,
soothing accompaniments to communal or solitary labour,
heightening aids to dramatic spectacles, and
enlivening backgrounds to social gatherings that involved either singing or dancing or both.
In every case musical sounds were an adjunct either to bodily movement (dance, march, game, or work) or to song.
Many centuries were to pass before pleasure in euphonious sound became an end in itself. Ancient Greece (Britannica Members)

That is why the singing and music words mean ENCHANTMENT or WITCHCRAFT and John in Revelation 18 says SORCERERS. This, like Hitler's theme PUTS OUT THE LIGHTS and you have Sold your Soul for Rock and Roll That primary "F" word

So, you have been WARRED AGAINST and YOU HAVE LOST just as the gradualism of Navigating the Winds intends and by Shelly appealing to Machiavelli to explain why CHANGE too so long. Machaivelli noted that people are SLOW to change "because they have law on their side." It looks like the PRINCE rules in Texas.

"The use of polyphony was from the earliest times restricted to major feasts, often including the patron saint of a cathedral or its dedication festival...
but these (rules) were often disregarded because of the

sensuous appeal of the new art. Professional singers delighted in solo or duet virtuoso performances, accompanied by the organ...

By the 12th century, the art of harmony had matured, especially in France where the early polyphonic tropes of Limoges had stimulated the later and more spectacular organs of Leonin and Perotin" (Britannica Book of Music, p.185).

TOO LATE TO PROVE THAT "God commanded instrumental praise" and "we must not be disobedient." And the Catholics claim that it was added because it was COMMON TO ALL PAGAN CULTS. Even then, the church did not WORSHIP with "singing and instrumental accompaniment" evern never.

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Ken Sublett
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MUSIC makes you BELIEVE what you ae TOLD without using the MIND

February 14 2007, 6:53 PM 

I will begin at the ending because THIS IS the meaning of Wicca or "navigating the winds of change." Otherwise, Rick's agenda would have been OUTED (by God I am convinced) a decade ago because THAT was the Purpose Driven Cultism
    All the changes at RHCC over the 12 years I've attended have made me nervous at times. When I've stepped back and honestly studied them, I've had no luck refuting them. We need to pull back, study the Bible, and work to separate our traditions from the commands of scripture. We harm God's kingdom when we make demands that He doesn't.
If you had been reading Concerned Members and the Purpose Driven Cult discussions you would have caught on before getting boiled in hot water like a frog. The Gradualism is documented by Plato and others because if OUTED the fact that without lots of softening up you would have had a testesterone explosion and TOSSED HIM OUT. The "band of merry men" have written along with others showing that you have to MOVE people out of their comfort zone. But Jesus came to move us INTO His comfort zone where REST specificially outlaws the anxiety-creating musical rituals. The Hegelian Dialect (well used by Machiavelly and Hitler) is to push to the BRINK but not OVER the edge. If they sense that they are close to being fired they "back off and preach safe sermons for a time." However, the Purpose Driven Cult says "never give up." You give it another shove and finally you have BROKEN THE WILL of people so that they Look and then stand and then SIT in the seats of the evil. Lynn Anderson laments that it took about 11 years to get people to alternate by SINGING during Lord's Supper. I can find almost the same words in books about Wicca. They know they can only do that ultimately in MASS MEETINGS like the Jubilee or the Tulsa Soul Stealing Workshop.

There is nothing in your memory bank from all of the sermonizing, versifying and classifying that would give you the AMMUNITION to refute Rick etal. The OUR TRADITONS is one of the big, fat lies about instrumental music. Rick can find no Godly approval in the Bible, all music terms condemn, he cannot find a church father or founder of denominations which does not GRASP what John warned--that music is sorcery because it manipulates the mind--and see it OUTLAWED and destructive to life IN THE SPIRIT.

NONE of those flowing into the Churches of Christ did not know that using instruments was sinful and negated their shed blood to restore congregational singing. Many Baptists did and do reject instruments. This has to be the BLACKEST LIE that the "acapella church of Christ INVENTED the non-use of instruments because they were LEGALISTS." Traditions included the Located Preacher, the Budget and Collecting from the poor to feed the rich. These TRADITIONALISMS came to fruit about the time I was born and THEY WILL NOT give up the TRUE sectarian traditions because they DO NOT have a GO BUTTON and are pseudo-evangelists.

However, this is the SECOND PART of the Hitler, Hegel "dissociation" which PROMOTES driving people into schizophrena by telling them that THEY are legalists, sectarian, hypocritical, patternists, fratricidal (and a half dozen more I have collected form Shelly sermons). This is psychological violence to make you FEAR not to agree with them so that it is EASIER to invent a NEW STYLE WORSHIP from OLD STYLE BABYLON. YOU KNOW very well that if you oppose Rick you will lose your role in the Purpose Driven Cult INNER CIRCLE and his DISAPPROVAL is the strongest weapon they have. I have not doubt that the elders have been INTIMIDATED knowing that the "pastor" has gained absolute control.
    Rick's challenges have caused me to study these things more deeply than I ever have in my life. I was amazed when I went back to Ephesians 5:19, backed up from that verse to take it in context, and discovered that Paul wasn't talking about worship at all, but the way we live our lives! To take it to condemn instrumental music means that you should avoid ALL instruments in ALL parts of your life, not just at church! We have become so concerned that we do all the things the right way that we've lost sight of what God is really trying to tell us.
Rick is absolutely wrong not having a CLUE to the meaning of ekklesia or synagogue which "had no praise service' and met for INSTRUCTION only. If HE is correct by virtue of being GOD INCARNATE with the Spirit inside then ALL HISTORICAL EVIDENCE is absolutely wrong. The Postmodern heresy in fact declared that ALL TRUTH has evaporated. I THINK that there is not a single preacher who knows the name Paul called the assembly. One of the things Nimrod who had a musical worship team of women knew and all of history and modern medical science knows is that by USING music you disable the rational or spiritual nature and drive ideas directly through the emotions while the music is KEEPING ever "pleasure center nerve" and tone-discriminating brain cells busy keeping track. That is a DRUG OVERDOSE which they KNOW they are injecting into you. At the same time you believe what is planted in your emotions and THINK that you figured it out all by yourself. I don't want to insult you but the more sophisticated and urban people are the more susceptible they are to what John called "sorcery" which "puts out the candles" of the seven spirits OF God. When you pick up the flaky wakies (sermons) you THINK that you are in your right mind and deciding: you are not. The more sophisticated mega-sounds systems can in fact direct a message to you that you won't even hear because MOST music does not primarly work through the ears. The Sounding Brass Paul spoke of was in fact a receiver-amplifier of certain messages to certain parts of the theater audience.

I think that PROVES my first point. Rick knows better but the Christian Church always uses the "you break the law by doing this in the church so we get to break the law by introducing instruments." Again, it is a collection of the worst lies in history and they DARE not let you read the WHOLE STORY because these proofs always implicate homosexuals trying to seduce a young boy. By 'piping" hoping Jesus and others would lament and dance they wanted to INITIATE Jesus to test whether he was their ANTICIPATED Dionysus as the new wineskins Messiah.

I will back up later and show that Paul used a form of the SYNAGOGUE (not church or circus) and all of the evidence and universal history before the small band of latter-day prophets decided that Paul was NOT speaking of the assembly. Nevertheless, they lift all of your free time which Jesus died to give you and are trying to keep you hustling all week to take your money. The "not" singing externally is in conection with TEACHING. If this is not the weekly synagogue or ekklesia then there is no authority to meat at all even for teaching. Since both the synagogue and ekklesia outlawed "sermonizing" I am not sure where Rick gets the gall to take a check. If Paul is speaking of SPEAKING at the coffee shop then he STILL demands the word SPEAK which "excludes poetry or music" as common sense proves. He still commands ONLY the inspired text and Rick could not meet with the "BAND" to coordianate movements. He STILL puts the singing AND melody in the PLACE of the heart. It would therfore violate the direct command to sing and play instruments in private or as a profession. Like TWISTING all known biblical and historical evidence, trying to eleminate the public assembly they prove that they CANNOT TRUMP all of the twisted scriptures to DISPROVE evrey jot and tittle of Rick's three sermons. I find it astounding that that many people could LISTEN to those three sermons and not yell WHOA! Well, I have answered my question: the threatening rhetoric, the gradualism to inject you with venum and the loud preaching and singing meant that you DID NOT even listen to Rick: it filtered into yoru emotions, you believed the lies and you THINK that you thought it up. I have reviewed Rubel Shelly's posted sermons and people who listened called me a liar for saying what was PRINTED FOR PUBLICATION. THAT' why John and all of the musical terms call it SORCERY. You are being bewitched and things like the Emerging Church of Christ deliberately use terms and ACTS identical to Wicca or Neo-paganism.
    Ken, it's interesting that you mention the Gnostics. They were convinced that the way to salvation was to find the "hidden meanings" behind scripture - in other words, the path to heaven is in discovering hidden knowledge. You seem to follow that same general philosophy. Some of your "knowledge" is pretty obscure. I'd be shocked that God would put such a high value on knowledge that isn't so accessible.
God hid the meaning IN PLAIN SIGHT to fool the professionals (Isa 48) by using PARABLES: surely I get to claim that Jesus said that this was FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD. Most of the mystery is hidden in WORDS: wasn't that slick of God. There are a couple of ways to grasp the meaning: the first is NOT to pull concepts out of context like Rick did to prach that "God COMMANDED instrumental praise" and "we should not be disobedient." The second is to be Old Testament Timeline Literate which you will never procure from a college so that you don't just look SILLY. Another way it to look at the definition of Words both in English and in the original languages. Minimal common sense knows that you CANNOT speak and sing at the same time and you CANNOT teach with the mind disabled by complex harmony. Then you define the word SPEAK and you fire the president for idocy if he gets up and makes up words and SINGS the State of the Union message with the Marine Band in the background. Then, you look up definitions and see that (praise the Lord) the words for SPEAK specificially EXCLUDES poetry or music which parse to SORCERY. If you look up the word PSALLO it means to pull WITH THE FINGERS and NOT with a plectrum. So, what slick willy can halluciante the guitar pick, trumpet, cymbals (locusts) or any musical instrument to "make harmony." You in fact DISOBEY PAUL even if you hallucinate PSALLO to be a music word and the blow the flute (Hebrew meaning to blow the flute, steal your inheritance, pollute or prostitute.). So to MAKE MUSIC in the face of a Holy God you just have to INVENT THE WHOLE thing and you have the Bible declaring that SATAN MAKES YOU DO IT.

I think that the GNOSIS of the SOPHISTS was "experiental knowledge" and OPPOSITE to the knowledge OF and FROM God. Gnosis is what Rick claims by having the SPIRIT PERSON (teaches polytheism) instruct him 'beyond the sacred page.' All of the musical rituals were AIMED at driving the women (or strange males) into a frenzy which you probably have witnessed. That is what Paul calls MADNESS as he addressed the uncovered prophesiers (singers and musicians) as being MAD. Harlod Bloom excluding churches of Christ but including the Disciples and Baptists calls them "a unique American religion, gnostic with NO connection to historic Christianity."

WISDOM or SOPHIA is defined as the LOGOS or WORD. It is quite logical that when God is manifest in the world He has his WORD and WISDOM with Him. God Knows, Speaks and Blows forth His Breath or Spirit. LOGOS means a "rational argument" and "spiritual worship" means "rational worship" in the HUMAN SPIRIT which is the only place God seeks us in silence.

As the BRANCH of the Menorah in the Holy Place--where no singer or musician could enter on the penalty of death--Jesus is the LIGHT of the world with the seven "flickering" lamps on the Lampstand.
    AND there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: Isaiah 11:1

    And the spirit OF the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING the spirit of COUNSEL and MIGHT the spirit of KNOWLEDGE and of the FEAR of the Lord; Isaiah 11:2

    And shall make him of QUICK UNDERSTANDING (spiritual) in the fear of the Lord:
    and he shall NOT judge after the sight of his eyes,
    neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: Isaiah 11:3
    But with righteousness shall he judge the POOR, [Poor means destitute: Rick doesn't qualify]
    and reprove with equity for the MEEK of the earth: [Well? I hear arrogance and threat]
    and he shall SMITE the earth with the rod of his mouth,
    and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. Isaiah 11:4

That proves that the SPIRIT is the WORD (John 6:63) and not a teeny fella who invades Rick's Mind. Do you like KoolAid? The Word of Christ is the Sword of the Spirit and by outlawing CARNAL WEAPONS Paul outlaws LIFELESS INSTRUMENTS where I have shown you that MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS are MACHINES for "doing hard labor" or for creating SHOCK AND AWE intended to induce 'fright' which the outburst of applause really means by the CLAIM that they were bringing down God into their presence.
    And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. Isaiah 11:5
Jesus said "My WORD is SPIRIT and LIFE." Therefore, the SPIRIT of Christ or the Living Word speaks through the Written Word only when we let Him speak when we "teach that which has been taught."

Paul drew an identity between the SPIRIT in Ephesians 5, the Word of Christ in Colossiand 3 and "that which is written or Scripture" where he defines the SYNAGOGUE in Romans 14 AFTER outlawing SELF-PLEASING which implicates loud singing and instruments which are a REPROACH to JesusChrist who meets so we can LEARN OF HIM which happens only when the "elders teach that WHICH HAS been taught."

If Rick is on the straight and narrow then he WILL print the three sermons in their totality and I will go ON AND ON and prove that he did not even QUOTE the proof text but AGRESSIVELY ASSERTED a TWISTED interpretation of EVERY QUOTATION. I am sure that he lifted it from the Christian Church people he has been working with. He MUST give an answer NOW or LATER because the hallucination about the evaporation of the Bible Text because things change at the speed of light disqualifies him from being a TEACHER who has stacked up lots of JUDGMENT. If not, perhaps you can do a transcript so you can READ it outside of the blather of rhetoric and being DISSOCIATED by the music. I can prove that he MESSED UP and all to give him authority to SOW MASSIVE DISCORD among peaceable bretheren. If I let one of my children be subject to what is ungodly and destrucvie to the tender spirit I would turn myself in for child molestation.

You can contact me on any question and I don't sell e-mails. You need to collect some like-minded people and do your own studies out of the REAL Bible and not filtered through some philosopher. I have most of the historical records on music, beginning with clay tablets maybe 3,000 years older than Moses and I can assure you that Rick and band are FLYING IN THE FACE of all known evidence. What comes up in THEIR MIND is NOT the holy spirit whose name is Jesus Christ the Righteous who "cast out the musical minstrels like dung."

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What Happened at the Madison Church of Christ?

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Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't know what happened.
Some never will know! This book is for them as well.

Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word of Jesus Christ.

At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly realm.

They used secrecy, covert planning, and outside sources to scheme and to change the format and direction of the Madison Church of Christ.

The Elders knew that the membership would never approve such a plan. Using the tools of the "Community Church Movement"(consultants, books, seminars, meetings,planters,seeders) they slowly started initiating change so it was never noticed by the members until it was too late.....

At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the "Community Church Movement"

Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready, or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the plans very nature, it had to be secret.

The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last 15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.

The Elders did not even need a majority at first, because some of the elders went along unwittingly.

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5 Godly Elders
10 Not so Godly Elders
120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
2 "teners" (people who have publicly confessed to have broken all ten commandments)
Unknown number of "sinners" (This is what the 10 elders call us.)
Unknown number of "demons" (Flying everywhere, to many to count)

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