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DECODING THE CHANGE MESSAGE

May 28 2007 at 4:28 PM
John Waddey  (Login Donnie.Cruz)
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DECODING THE CHANGE MESSAGE

Dear Christian Reader:

Today's lesson is designed to help members of church understand the deceitful message of the change agents at work among us. Those who do perceive the double and hidden meanings they use will be deceived, disarmed and defeated. Please share this lesson with other Christians where you worship and with whom you communicate.

— John Waddey


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    DECODING THE CHANGE MESSAGE


    In times of war governments and military leaders use coded language to communicate vital information. The reason is to keep the enemy from understanding their situation and intentions. In spiritual warfare those whose goal is to capture the church and bring it under their control also use coded language. Never will a false teacher stand up and boldly, clearly state, "I have come to destroy your faith," or "to capture your congregation." As Paul warned, "by their smooth and fair speech they beguile the hearts of the innocent" (Rom. 16:18). Today the naive member of the church of Christ can easily be deceived by change agents using their coded language. Note the following examples:

      • Rather than speak of "the Lord's church" or the brotherhood, they like to say "our fellowship" believes, teaches or practices thus and so. This subtle shift implies that we of the churches of Christ have our way, the Christian Churches and Disciples of Christ have their way, the Baptists, etc. have theirs. All the different fellowships do their own things as they desire. None has priority. Taken together they make up the real universal Church.

      • Rather than say, "the Bible teaches" certain practices such as weekly communion, acappella singing, baptism as essential to salvation, they prefer to say, "Our tradition" is this or that. By this they mean, although it may be our "church of Christ" way of doing it, we do not claim that it is necessarily Biblical or the only correct way of doing it.

      • When they speak of the Church of Christ, they do not exclusively mean that body of people scattered around the world who are known by that name and who are identifiable by a common Bible-based faith and practice. They have in mind what they like to call "the historic church" that stretches from the first century to the present. Their definition includes the Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox and all the Protestant bodies as well as the church of Christ of which they happen to be members. Of one thing we can be certain they never use the term to mean that churches of Christ are the Church of Christ we read of in the Bible.

      • Change agents are fond of saying, "I respect the Bible message." To us those words mean we view them as our divinely given standard, our pattern for the church, her faith and worship. To them, they mean they are more like a nice note from one’s parents. They most certainly deny that they are a binding pattern for the faith and practice of the church.

      • Promoters of change are frequently heard to say, "We must set our women free." We surely do not believe in slavery. We agree that women have the right to vote and hold public office. They should get equal pay for equal work, etc. Men have no right to be tyrants over their wives and daughters. But they mean we must allow our women to take
        public leadership roles in the worship of the church. Some will settle for allowing them to lead public prayers, lead singing or assist in the ministration of the Lord's Supper. Others want them free to teach men in classes and in the pulpit.

      • Some are heard to say, "I believe in male leadership in the church." We would naturally accept that to mean, men are to serve as our elders, deacons, preachers and teachers of mixed gender classes. By that they mean that elders can give women permission to teach those mixed classes or fill other public positions of leadership.

      • Agents of change frequently protest, "I am conservative." We hear those words and think of a man who wishes to conserve the faith as it is revealed in the New Testament, as it was held by those brethren who went before. But he means, I am not a theological liberal like a Unitarian preacher. I believe in inspiration of the Bible, the divinity of Jesus, the miracles, the resurrection. But he does not believe the Bible is a binding pattern for the church nor does he feel the church of Christ is Christ's church.

      • Those of the change movement often say, "we need a new paradigm." The average fellow may scratch his head and wonder what is that? But the change agents mean we need a new way of looking at the Bible, the church, our worship, our faith. They want a new way because they judge the old way to be faulty. It limits their ability to change things.

      • "I believe in the concept of restoration," some say. To our ears that means restoring the church to her original faith and practice. But to the change agent it means we need to return people to Jesus. His definition does not include the church, her faith and worship.

      • Champions of change frequently speak of "our faith heritage." By this they mean they have chosen to be part of the church of Christ "denomination," just like the convert at a Billy Graham crusade is told to go to the church of his choice. To change agents, "our church of Christ faith heritage" is no better than the Presbyterians' faith heritage.

      • They all declare, "I love our acappella tradition." They can not afford to say otherwise while their attempt to capture and change a congregation are incomplete. They mean that our acappella singing has no scriptural basis and is the product of our rural frontier origins. They have no real objection to those who wish to use instruments in
        their worship.

      • They tells us, "The church of the 21st century must change if she is to survive." We might think of changing our location, our time of worship, our hymnal or our method of outreach. But they mean we must change the nature of the church, our worship and our faith to be acceptable to 21st century sinners. In their thinking, we must allow them to lead us to the green pastures of denominationalism if we are to survive.

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John Waddey, Editor
Christianity: Then and Now

E-Mail: johnwaddey@aol.com

 
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Ken Sublett
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True

May 28 2007, 5:57 PM 

I remember the dialog even before Jubilee began: many churches looked at the STATED GOALS and decided that the motives were pure.
I remember speaking with a founding member and he laid out the agenda. No one would listen.

It wasin the 1997 Jubilee when Max Lucado was called in to REMOVE the Water from salvation. People who listened did not get it because of the clangs and gongs of instrumental music CONDITIONING people for a planned "new stle worship."

When forced to listen to the tapes without the mind altering rhetoric, people said: "Well, that's what he said." One of the congregations warned a decade early finally repudiated Jubilee after being warned 'you will lose all of your members.' Bluffing is another PATTERNISM which they agreed and premeditated. One family left.

If you will closely read the CREED about baptism they will say "we believe in baptism" but it is NOT baptism required for salvation.

The small band of merry men AGREED on a set of code words to sound good but were deceptive. John Waddey has listed most of them and you hear the little DITTO HEADS or LITTLE CUR ECHOS repeating them over and over. The JUST OUR TRADITION or just our HERITAGE about instrumental music is the most popular one. It MEANS that our ignorant ancestors just CAUGHT not using instruments like a virus and WE are too ignorant to understand the truth. This is really the blackest of lies because they do not know anything about the Bible and the fact that the almost universal history repudiated instruments.

However, lying to deceive is not a problem because in POSTMODERNISM it is not wrong to LIE 'cause we gonna save more souls." Oh, have we heard that over and over:TRUTH does not matter as long as the CHURCH GROWTH CULT seems to work. I love the way they TRUMP all known truth by demanding: "how many souls have YOU saved?" Or "led to Christ?" I think the PATTERNISM which existed before the PARADIGMISM was that the deliberate hate spreaders were commanded to GO PREACH.

 
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"LET ME FIX YOUR PROBLEMS" (by John Waddey)

June 21 2007, 1:07 PM 

"LET ME FIX YOUR PROBLEMS"



Scam artists abound in our land. Many are their victims. We read of termite extermination companies whose inspectors release vials of termites under houses and then for a handsome price, offer their services to rid them. We hear of auto repair shops whose repairmen damage customers’ cars and then offer to repair them for a hefty charge. Today we have false teachers among us who are like those scam artists. They introduce erroneous teaching and disruptive practices into congregations and then volunteer their advice and service to reconcile the contending parties and restore peace. Frequently the "conflict resolvers" are based in those universities from when the change agents have emerged. The price they extort is compromise; tolerance of the unscriptural views and practices. A frequent scam is the proposal that the church should have two services, one for the old traditionalists and one for those who want change. That makes a good temporary arrangement until they are in position to take control of the leadership and property of the victim church. They write books like The Crux of the Matter and The Second Reincarnation to rationalize and justify the problems they have created.

The Better Remedy

God did not leave us helpfulness in the face of our enemies.

  • First we are to beware of false teachers who operate as wolves in sheep's clothing (Matt. 7:15).
  • We are not receive into our houses or the pulpits of our churches those who abide not in the doctrine of Christ (II John 9-10).
  • We are to reject the factious people who trouble the body of Christ (Tit. 3:10).
  • We are to mark (identify) those who cause divisions and occasions of stumbling contrary to the teachings which we have received and turn away from them (Rom. 16:17-18).

We need to be reminded that there have always been folks, nominally within the church, whose faith and convictions are antagonistic to the principles given us by Christ. Paul pictures them as folks who made shipwreck concerning the faith (I Tim. 1:19). Peter's imagery is that of a dog returning to his vomit or a pig that had been washed, wallowing in the mire (II Pet. 2:20-22). Jude's illustration is that of a "wandering star" trekking endlessly through the blackness of space...hopelessly lost. He also paints them as jagged, dangerous rocks lurking just beneath the surface of an otherwise safe harbor (Jude 12-13). Jesus describes them to thieves that seek to secretly enter another's sheepfold and steal his sheep (John 10:8-13).

Should I learn that a local business man deceives and defrauds his customers, I wisely take heed to that information and refuse to patronize him. I tell others of the risk he poses. If we learn that certain preachers and teachers are troubling our churches, teaching new and different doctrines that are contrary to God's word and harmful to the church, wisdom suggests that we should reject them, refuse them a place in our midst and warn others about them. We don't need their "proposed changes" for the faith and practice of the church and we certainly don't need the remedies they offer when our churches have been troubled by their ideas.


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John Waddey
http://www.christianity-then-and-now.com/html/index_biblical_studies.html

 
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