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Eleminating WORKS BASED worship.

July 4 2007 at 10:15 PM
Ken  (no login)
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How to remove legalism from our worship

• Assist in the planning and preparation for Sunday evening worship services

a) Act as a support to the Director of Sunday Evening Worship
b) Attend weekly “Worship Staff” meeting (Tuesdays at 10:00am)
c) Attend weekly “Worship Coordination” meeting (Tuesdays from 11:30am-12pm)
d) Take administrative responsibility for the weekly production of the PM Order of Worship
e) Participate musically in services as needed

• Assist in the coordination of special services, including Christmas Eve, Maundy Thursday, and Easter

a) Coordinate rehearsals, including room reservations
b) Coordinate childcare, including room reservations
c) Coordinate catering/meals
d) Assist with the preparation of music (copying, preparing folders, etc)

• Serve as a liaison to the Sunday evening worship participants

a) Communicate with Sunday evening instrumentalist, vocalist and pastoral participants
b) Catering: Arrange for a between service meal for all service participants
c) Visual tech:

-Prepare the MediaShout presentation and coordinate with the visual tech worker
-Assist in the procurement of visual images

• Supervise music library

a) Pull and re-file instrumental and vocal music weekly
b) Prepare lead sheets, melody sheets, and chord charts as needed
c) Be proficient in using as a resource

• Assume directorial duties in the absence of Director of Sunday Evening Worship

a) Communicate with the preaching pastor and create Order of Worship
b) Run rehearsals and lead worship on Sunday evening


• A clear and unreserved commitment to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior
• Understanding of the difference between worship and performance
• Exhibit excellent leadership, organizational, and communication skills
• Competence and training musically; ability to read music is required
• Experience in leading worship
• Fundamental commitment to building community and working well with both large and small groups of people
• Bachelor’s degree required, music degree preferred

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July 12 2007, 10:36 AM 

“Understanding of the difference between worship and performance”—

    Does this mean that the order of “worship” is significant by designating a separate period of singing songs that pertain to: “we’re standing on holy ground”; “O worship the King”; “holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty” from that of singing “performance praise” songs, such as: “let us worship the Father [clap-clap-clap]”; “You have turned my mourning into dancing [literally do a 360-degree turn and dance]"; etc.?

More questions later….

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Between Worship and Performance

July 13 2007, 11:23 AM 

The above wasn’t so much a question as to illustrate a point. In the first place, there is no unity in the body of Christ when the so-called “traditional worship” is purposely designated as separate from the so-called “contemporary worship.” Such concept as practiced is a reminder of its political equivalent—racial segregation. The separation clearly illustrates division—a far cry from the teachings of the apostles that “there be unity in mind and in judgment.”

What’s accomplished in providing the above options is no more than just appeasement. And appeasement is hardly a description of true unity in the body of Christ—which is contingent upon wise and scripture-based decisions made by the congregation’s leadership.

It should be pointed out that even within the “contemporary” division, there are inconsistencies in the programmed “musical worship” [which can be a form of idolatry if care is not taken]. One moment a contemporary song with words that “we’re standing on holy ground” sung with what appears to be in solemnity and reverence; another moment an upbeat contemporary song sung with words “You have turned my mourning into dancing” with a few raucous and disruptive youths clapping and literally turning around to dance.

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July 13 2007, 1:16 PM 

Strabo who wrote TRUE GEOGRAPHY:
Also resembling these rites are the Cotytian and the Bendideian rites practiced among the Thracians, among whom the Orphic rites had their beginning. Now the Cotys who is worshipped among the Edonians, and also the instruments used in her rites, are mentioned by Aeschylus; for he says,
    O adorable Cotys among the Edonians, and ye who hold mountain-ranging instruments;
    And he mentions immediately afterwards the attendants of Dionysus: one, holding in his hands the bombyces (reed flute),
toilsome work of the turner's chisel, fills full the fingered melody, the call that brings on FRENZY
while another causes to resound the bronze-bound cotylae. (cupped cymbals or vases)

This is IMpure religion or Therekia named after Orpheus the thracian. He and the Lesbian musicians set Homer's poems intended to be recited to a tune and added musical instruments. The PURPOSE is always to induce fright, panic or shock and awe so you can SELL it as the "spirit" moving among you. Sound familiar?

"and again,
stringed [psalmos or twitched] instruments raise their shrill cry, [Alalazo: rais the war-cry]
and frightful mimickers from some place unseen bellow like bulls,
and the semblance of drums, as of subterranean thunder, rolls along, a terrifying sound.

This is repeated in 1 Corinthians 13 to speak of the sorcerers using booms and gongs and clangs to fool the fools that the gods REALLY lived inside the bronze vase or "empty wineskin" of the Witch of endor.

Alalazo 2. generally, cry, shout aloud, Pi.l.c., E.El.855; esp. in orgiastic rites, A.Fr.57; of Bacchus and Bacchae, E.Ba.593 sound loudly, psalmos d'alalazei A.Fr.57 ; kumbalon alalazon1 Ep.Cor.13.1

This is the HEAVENLY FLASHED MARK seen as the "religion of the New Wineskin."

Music is always a WAR CRY and history notes that it is a cry of RAGE against their "god" who has let them down so that they no longer believe in him. Having been deliberately stripped of FAITH by the Jubilators planning discord so massive that it has to be Satanic, those who believed them have been TURNED OVER to a form is singing which is really screeching and screaming and one gets the impression that people are LOST, without redemption and are CRYING OUT against God. This is the message of The Book of Enoch quoted by Jude. Those FOR WHOM God comes in judgment are defined as the choirs, instrumentalists and "putting on of apparel" or LITURGICAL symbols. They were seduced in their YOUTH, fell, knew that they had fallen and could not get up and appeased themselve by seducing others to give them comfort.

Organon , to, ( [ergon, erdô] )

A. instrument, implement, tool, for making or doing a thing
3.musical instrument, Simon.
The organ or pipes Jubal handles meaning "without authority."

Ergon [Ergô], 1. in Il. mostly of deeds of war, polemêïaerga, 3.a hard piece of work, a hard task, Il.: also, a shocking deed or act,

History is clear that PRAISE SINGING is the oldest, most ignorant, superstitious and legalistic practiced taught in CaveMan 101: that you could APPEASE the gods to give you fertility (more members, more collections). If things went wrong, then you raged and threated the gods that you might take your business elsewhere.

As prophesied by Joseph Campbell, the church has lost its footing and has CRACKEKD AWAY to archaic paganism which--on its visual and audible surface--it as outrageous as putting your head in a plastic bag to catch the space ship hiding behind a comet.

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Does MUSIC Crucify Christ all over again?

August 24 2007, 8:44 PM 

The BURDEN Jesus died to remove means "creation of spiritual anxiety through religious rituals.
The REST specificially identifies "singing, clapping, dancing, making music" and all of the pagan practices.
Paul outlawed the diversities of the Roman Cults including SELF-pleasure which always connected to musical arousal and "making people naked" literally or virtually.

Paul OUTLAWED self-pleasure which is "the creation of mental excitement" and in the texts SILENCES things like singing and making music or performance rhetoric.

Gal 5:12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

Here is what an agitator does:
    Anastatoo (g387) an-as-tat-o'-o; from a der. of 450 (in the sense of removal);
    prop. to drive out of home, i.e. (by impl.) to disturb (lit. or fig.): -
    trouble, turn upside down, make an uproar, to stir up, excite, unsettle
    to excite tumults and seditions in the state to upset,
    unsettle, minds by disseminating religious error


    Melpô, Sing or celebrate a song and dance
    Melos to which a song is set, tune 3. melody of an instrument,
    Mouso-polos, on, A.serving the Muses, poetic II. Subst., bard, minstrel,

    AS THE: Aoidos A.singer, minstrel, bard, 3.enchanter, Eunouchos
    Eunouchos A.castrated person, eunuch, employed to take charge of the women

    Gallos, ho, A. priest of Cybele, Used with: Pempô ,
    2. pompên p. conduct, or take part in, a procession,
    chorous move in dancing procession,
    phallos Dionusôi pempomenos carried in procession in his honour

Many see microphones and they way they are fondled as phallic symbols.
    Demosthenes Against Midias describes what the clergy tried to excite Jesus to do:
    "[21.52] Please take and read the actual oracles. Oracles You I address, Pandion's townsmen and sons of Erechtheus,
    who appoint your feasts by the ancient rites of your fathers.

    See you forget not Bacchus [Dionysus], and joining all in the dances Down your broad-spaced streets, in thanks for the gifts of the season, Crown each head with a wreath, while incense reeks on the altars. For health sacrifice and pray to Zeus Most High, to Heracles, and to Apollo the Protector; for good fortune to Apollo, god of the streets, to Leto, and to Artemis; and along the streets set wine-bowls and dances, and wear garlands after the manner of your fathers in honor of all gods and all goddesses of Olympus, raising right hands and left in supplication."

    Phorizo or pherô Jesus died to remove means:
    [heresy] to win and hold the first, gain the advantage over any one
    2. to carry off as booty or plunder, I. to be borne along by waves or winds, to be swept away.
    Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

    Only as a methaphor has PSALLO ever musical meant more than SHOOT SOMEONE WITH A SONG.

    Similar: PSALLO I. In gen., to play upon a stringed instrument; esp., to play upon the cithara, to sing to the cithara: psallere saltare elegantius, [carry away] 1. to convey away (from the family) by bequest, to bequeath away,
    ANASTATOO (387) drive out, make an uproar, unsettle people, disseminating religious error which means:

    G388 anastauroo an-as-tow-ro'-o From G303 and G4717 ; to recrucify (figuratively):--crucify afresh.

    The Cross means: figuratively to extinguish (subdue) passion or selfishness:
If YOU are agitating with the creation of spiritual anxiety through musical rituals, YOU are guilty of Crucifying Christ all over again. And YOU will be marked with the eternal MARK of effeminate or perverted agents of the Mother Of Harlots.

    Gal 5:12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
CHRYSOSTOM IDENTIFIES those who drive you out of your homeland:

People who infiltrate and divert with music seem to take some joy in CASTING OUT the owners of the property. The Richland moveon confessed great discord and losses in the '91 adding of the "musical worship team" a truly blasphemous concept. More than a decade later they were willing to crucify Christ by lying about the Spirit OF Christ universal condemnation of music a the MARK of telling God to "Shut your face."
    For they had compelled them to abandon their own fatherland, their liberty, and their heavenly kindred, and to seek an alien and foreign one; they had cast them out of Jerusalem which is above and free, and compelled them to wander forth as captives and emigrants.....But in truth neither the eye nor any other part of us is to blame, but the depraved will only. But if you will not allow this, why do you not mutilate the tongue for blasphemy, the hands for rapine, the feet for their evil courses, in short, the whole body? For the ear enchanted by the sound of a flute hath often enervated the soul; and the perception of a sweet perfume by the nostrils hath bewitched the mind, and made it frantic for pleasure. Yet this would be extreme wickedness and satanic madness.

    ALL musical terms speak of enchantment or SORCERY: why else would people LIE about the Bible, lie TO God and lie ABOUT God? A note reads:

    Paul wishes that the circumcisers would not stop with circumcision but go beyond it to mutilation (make themselves eunuchs) like the priests of Cybele. A severe irony and similar to the one in Philip. iii. 2, 3, where Paul calls the boasters of circumcision “the Concision.” Self mutilation was a recognized form of heathen worship especially in Pessinus in Galatia and therefore quite familiar to the readers. Thus by their glorying in the flesh the Galatians relapsed into their former heathenism,—Schaff and Lightfoot. The Revised Version here has, “would even cut themselves off,” the American Committee has, “would go beyond circumcision.”—G.A.]
A capella is defacto A castrato: the clergy teams in the Catholic church were always males, dressed as women and singing in falsetto--as the Levite Singers did. Because the castratos singing a capella were so superior they began manufacturing more "priests of cybele" for the Mother church. When that was outlawed, the form of elevated praise singing or "trousers songs" was invented to continue the worship of the Mother of harlots (Rev 17) using speakers, singers and instrument players as SORCERERS (Rev 18). You should grasp that UNNATURAL elevated styles which just "turns on" people: in the music world only gender-confused people make it to the top.


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