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Grace Centered Magazine Forum Question 2 Peter 2

October 8 2007 at 1:58 PM
Ken Sublett  (no login)
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Grace Centered Magazine is doing their "insider" dialog on 2 Peter. One of the posters asked about the connection between Peter's letters and the Book of Jude. There are close parallels because both are out takes of The Book of Enoch. Enoch is quoted or alluded to at least 128 times in the New Testament. Enoch defines the FOR WHOM God will come with ten thousands of His saints or angels to utterly punish a certain class. This class includes Satan and all he / she / it can seduce using all of the theatrical arts or Hypocritic arts to appeas the masses to PREVENT the teaching of God's Word--word for word as Isaiah 28 defines it.

The Book of Enoch begins here:

The Crooked Generation of the perverted Skolion singers is here:

Plato on the Syposium where Paul told the elders to "not go near wine" and the prostitute / sodomite musicians.

And Hesoid's Theogony from which the Bible Writers got examples of the FALSE religions to write their PRESCRIPTIVE against whatever it is YOU have been led into:


We have to wonder why YOU are so BLIND as to not lead these False Teachers to the door?

Remember what I said about when the elders and preacher is no longer loyal and trustworthy. In a legal sense


If they have used psychological violence to steal your church from its ministers and vocational leaders the DON'T ENABLE them. If you enable a thief, you ARE a thiev.

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ALL epistles define TEACHING and not MUSIC

October 8 2007, 10:28 PM 

All of the Epistles make a point of defining WHAT the people are to do as a collective. The synagogue or church in the wilderness, the synagogue Jesus TAUGHT or READ in, the commands of Paul and others and church history knows that music had no role to play in the school of the Bible. Who in the right mind would look for a "musical worship team" or an instrumental band leading the supreme court in getting into the SPIRIT?

Yet, those who twist ALL of the Scriptures to force the Spirit OF Christ to lie, whine that they cannot FIND any negative information about music as the WEAPON of Satan beginning in heaven. If they cannot then you shout quit feeding them and they will go away. If they pretend to be a teacher of the Law when they know nothing but twist everything then they are the agents the whole Bible warns against. In Revelation 18 the rhetoricians, singers and instrument players are called sorcerers who HAD deceived the whole world.

You have no reason to believe the Bible or be a Christian unless you accept the clear claim about fallen angels, wandering stars or sons of the Devil according to Jesus MARKED by their speaking on their own.

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Many of the current members of the Madison Church of Christ still don't know what happened.
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Madison Church of Christ was a 60 year old church. At one time it was one of the largest churches in the US, and the largest Church of Christ.

It thrived for many years on the vision of it's elders and those of it's ministers. Those visions undoubtably came from the the inspired word of Jesus Christ.

At sometime in the last 10 years there was a deliberate plan by a majority of the elders to take the Madison Church of Christ into a more worldly realm.

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At the heart of the plan was the fact that old members were going to be driven off so new techniques could be used to go out and reach the unchurched through new "Contemporary Holy Entertainment" methods developed by the "Community Church Movement"

Old members had to be kept on board long enough to get their plans ready, or the funds would not be there to pay for the new building. So by the plans very nature, it had to be secret.

The church had no plan in effect to renew or approve elders. There was never any need. The elders had always been "as approved by God". 10 of the last 15 elders would begin to shed some doubt on that.

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120 "Deacons" (allegiance unknown)
2,800 - 4,000 church "members"
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