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THE MANY FACES OF RELIGIOUS LIBERALISM

July 26 2009 at 12:25 AM
John Waddey  (Login Donnie.Cruz)
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THE MANY FACES OF RELIGIOUS LIBERALISM



The Pharisees dominated the religious scene in Jesus' day. William Barclay notes that the people distinguished several types with the Pharisaic brotherhood. There were the "Shoulder Pharisees" who wore their good deeds on their shoulders. There were the "Wait and See Pharisees" who were always able to find an excuse for putting of obedience to some duty. There were the "Bruised and Bleeding Pharisees" who refused to look at a woman on the street. By always looking down, they were prone to bump into obstacles and suffer wounds. There were the "Stooped Pharisees" who, to demonstrate their humility, walked with their head and shoulders bowed. There were the "Ever-reckoning Pharisees" who were constantly tallying up their good deeds. There were the "God-fearing Pharisees" who loved God and tried to do his will.

In our day, liberalism aspires to domination in Christianity. Observation tells us there are a variety of liberals, each with a different, accent, walk and dress, but all holding the same basic faith. They reject the authority of the New Testament of Christ as the final word in matters of faith. They tend to embrace postmodernism as their way to arrive at truth, purpose and meaning. They have a critical view of the church and warmly embrace denominationalism. They all feel constrained to change the faith and worship of the Lord's church to make it more acceptable to themselves and to postmodern man. Yet within their class and kind we see the following variations:


  • Some are gentle as a lamb liberals. These brethren major in sweetness, kindness and love. They will not defend their views. They voice no criticism of others. Yet one can see the churches they serve slowly evolving away from the standards of Christ into the realm of denominationalism.

  • There are snarling, snapping dog liberals. These are the pit bull dogs of liberalism. They attack those disciples and congregations that refuse to go along with their agenda with hateful, insulting words. They make good use of sarcasm and ridicule. The magnify every flaw and delight in reporting every failure among brethren who are not in their camp. They are mean-spirited and hateful in their efforts to defeat and destroy those whom they view as traditionalists.

  • We see the aristocratic liberals of academia. Rather than scripture, they make their points by citing the scholarly conclusions of liberal scholars, many of whom are skeptics. They look down with pity or scorn on those who honor the Bible and believe its message with unshaken faith. They don't spend much time with common disciples and small churches. They prefer the ethereal atmosphere of the university. The questions that every day Christians are concerned about seem juvenile and unimportant to these scholars. They aspire for recognition among their peers in other schools.

  • There are the gregarious, motivational liberals. These are pleasant, smiling teachers with endless snappy illustrations and stories to tell. They use the techniques of the motivational speakers' circuit and use them to excite their audiences. They are great hand-shakers and regulars on the civic club circuit. They love golfing and other ministerial recreations. They strive to build great churches, with a minimum of biblical teaching and lots of exciting social activities.

  • We observe liberal clowns and comedians. These brethren are the funny- men of the liberal family. They have a basket of jokes to share. They are masters at making their audience laugh and applaud. They are often animated and theatrical in their presentations. They present a good show and those who know little or nothing of Christianity are happy to be thus entertained.

  • There are smooth, cunning and subtle liberals. These men carefully disguise their true convictions and loyalties. To the unsuspecting, they appear to be faithful members of the Lord's church. They carefully use "traditional, conservative" vocabulary. They do not talk of their liberal sympathies, nor do they promote liberal men or causes. Yet, members and congregations under their influence tend to drift toward the liberal camp. Jude describes them as hidden rocks in your love feasts when they feast with you (Jude 12).

  • We see chameleon-like liberals. These brethren change their speech, their loyalties, their conduct as the situation demands. They can appear conservative in a conservative setting. They can answer questions just as a conservative would. Yet in the presence of liberals they fit in perfectly.

  • There are strong-arm liberals. These are the tough, aggressive types who mince no words and show no mercy. Once they get a foothold in a congregation, they move to take full control of things. Those who dare to question them or refuse to join them are subjected to verbal abuse and are pressured to conform or to get out of the way. They make no pretense as to who they are or what they are about. The congregation will either submit to their demands or it will be wrecked.

  • Some are denying liberals. These folks are truly liberal in their faith and sympathies. It is evident in their preaching, in the changes they introduce into their congregations, yet they stoutly deny that they have abandoned the old biblical way for a new agenda. They will associate with conservatives and pretend that they are one with them. They boast of their conservative roots and ancestors. Yet one need only look at the churches they serve to see the truth of the matter.

Jesus said, beware the leaven of the Pharisees (Matt. 16:6). Christians must beware the leaven of liberalism.

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John Waddey, Editor
Christianity: Then and Now

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James
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The many Faces of Religious Conservatism

July 27 2009, 5:23 PM 

The Pharisees dominated the religious scene in Jesus' day. William Barclay notes that the people distinguished several types with the Pharisaic brotherhood. There were the "Shoulder Pharisees" who wore their good deeds on their shoulders. There were the "Wait and See Pharisees" who were always able to find an excuse for putting of obedience to some duty. There were the "Bruised and Bleeding Pharisees" who refused to look at a woman on the street. By always looking down, they were prone to bump into obstacles and suffer wounds. There were the "Stooped Pharisees" who, to demonstrate their humility, walked with their head and shoulders bowed. There were the "Ever-reckoning Pharisees" who were constantly tallying up their good deeds. There were the "God-fearing Pharisees" who loved God and tried to do his will.

In our day, Conservatism aspires to domination in Christianity. Observation tells us there are a variety of Conservatives, each with a different, accent, walk and dress, but all holding the same basic faith. They ignore the context of the New Testament of Christ and use traditions as the final word in matters of faith. They tend to embrace traditions as their way to arrive at truth, purpose and meaning. They have a critical view of the church and embrace no one. They all feel constrained to change the faith and worship of the Lord's church to make it more inclusive. Yet within their class and kind we see the following variations:


Some are gentle as a lamb Conservatives. These brethren major in sweetness, kindness and love. They will not defend their views. They voice no criticism of others. Yet one can see the churches they serve slowly evolving away from the standards of Christ into the realm of traditionalism.


There are snarling, snapping dog Conservatives. These are the pit bull dogs of conservatism. They attack those disciples and congregations that refuse to go along with their agenda with hateful, insulting words. They make good use of sarcasm and ridicule. The magnify every flaw and delight in reporting every failure among brethren who are not in their camp. They are mean-spirited and hateful in their efforts to defeat and destroy those whom they view as liberalists.


We see the aristocratic Conservatives of academia. Rather than scripture, they make their points by citing the scholarly conclusions of conservative scholars, many of whom are skeptics. They look down with pity or scorn on those who honor the Bible and believe its message with unshaken faith. They don't spend much time with common disciples and large churches. They prefer the ethereal atmosphere of the university. The questions that every day Christians are concerned about seem juvenile and unimportant to these scholars. They aspire for recognition among their peers in other schools.


There are the gregarious, motivational Conservatives. These are pleasant, smiling teachers with endless snappy illustrations and stories to tell. They use the techniques of the motivational speakers' circuit and use them to excite their audiences. They are great hand-shakers. They love golfing and other ministerial recreations. They strive to make everyone like them and have a high rate of popularity.


We observe Conservative clowns and comedians. These brethren are the funny- men of the liberal family. They have a basket of jokes to share. They are masters at making their audience laugh and applaud. They present a good show and those who know little or nothing of Christianity are happy to be thus entertained.


There are smooth, cunning and subtle Conservatives. These men carefully disguise their true convictions and loyalties. To the unsuspecting, they appear to be faithful members of the Lord's church. They carefully use "denominational, liberal" vocabulary. They do not talk of their conservative sympathies, nor do they promote conservative men or causes. Yet, members and congregations under their influence tend to drift toward the conservative camp. Jude describes them as hidden rocks in your love feasts when they feast with you (Jude 12).


We see chameleon-like Conservatives. These brethren change their speech, their loyalties, their conduct as the situation demands. They can appear liberal in a liberal setting. They can answer questions just as a liberal would. Yet in the presence of Conservatives they fit in perfectly.


There are strong-arm Conservatives. These are the tough, aggressive types who mince no words and show no mercy. Once they get a foothold in a congregation, they move to take full control of things. Those who dare to question them or refuse to join them are subjected to verbal abuse and are pressured to conform or to get out of the way. They make no pretense as to who they are or what they are about. The congregation will either submit to their demands or it will be wrecked.


Some are denying Conservatives. These folks are truly Conservative in their faith and sympathies. It is evident in their preaching, in the changes they introduce into their congregations, yet they stoutly deny that they have abandoned the old biblical way for a new agenda. They will associate with liberals and pretend that they are one with them. They boast of their liberal roots and ancestors. Yet one need only look at the churches they serve to see the truth of the matter.

Wow works both ways! Who would of thunk it?

 
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John Waddey
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Blindness

October 5 2009, 1:41 AM 

BLINDNESS



For many years I worked with students who were visually impaired. Some were totally blind. A blind man cannot see his mother's or his wife's face. He cannot see the glory of the sunrise or sunset. He cannot see danger when it is near. Truly his handicap is great. There are two kinds of blindness: the one is caused by injury or disease. Such cannot be helped. The other consists of refusing to see that which you don't want to see or recognize. Jesus scored Jews of his generation, saying, "their eyes they have closed...Lest haply they should perceive with their eyes...and understand with their heart..." (Matt. 13: 15). In the last 40 years a sizeable number of young preachers have appeared among our churches who evidently suffer from this spiritual blindness.

  • They can't see the different purposes for the Law of Moses and the Old Testament Scriptures in the Old and the New Dispensations. For the Hebrews, from Moses to the Cross, it was the constitution of their nation, the statute book of their courts, their guide for daily living and the standard and guide for their religious life and activities. For Christians it is no longer binding as our law and spiritual standard (Col. 2:14). Jesus, the founder of the Christian religion, is head over all things to the church (Eph. 1:22). He has all authority both in heaven and on earth (Matt. 28:18). We are to teach people to obey all that he has commanded (Matt. 28:20). The Old Testament record of those ancient folks provides us with valuable examples (I Cor. 10:11). Its history provides us much valuable and reliable information. God expects us to make use of it. For information on how to be saved and how to worship we must look to Jesus and his New Covenant. Like their peers in the denominational world, our change agents want to be able to stroll through the Old Testament and gather things they desire to use in their worship. Most noticeable of their selections is instrumental music.

  • They cannot see the difference in changes that are in the realm of means and methods and changes that affect the essential nature of the church, her worship and her message of salvation. The first we are free to make and each church can make them as will benefit their local situation. The latter category are wrong. They usurp the authority of Christ, the head of the church. Those we dare not and cannot make.

  • They cannot see why women are not allowed to fill leadership roles in the public worship of the church. The most obvious reason is that God plainly says, "As in all the churches, let the women keep silence in the churches; for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as also saith the law" (I Cor. 14:33-34). Later Paul wrote, "But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness" (I Tim. 2:11-12). In these and other passages Paul gives the theological reasons why such is God's standard. But for the humble servant of the King, His expressed will is sufficient.

  • They cannot see the difference in Christ's church and those churches created by men. True, they can talk vaguely of "The Church" in the same way that their denominational mentors do. But in so doing they include the Roman Catholic, the Orthodox Church and all Protestant bodies along with the Church of Christ. They consider the Church of Christ, in which they still claim membership, to be just another denomination. Given their constant and hateful criticism of her, in their minds she must surely rank as the most sorry of the lot.

  • They cannot see the difference between gospel preaching and the story telling, wise-cracking and joking offered by many change agents. To merely hold a bible in hand while telling stories, or to tack on a verse or two for decoration does not constitute a gospel sermon. Politicians do that all the time and everyone knows it is not a sermon. It is done to garner respect or credibility for that which may or may not have merit in itself! The true man of God will preach the word; be urgent in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering teaching" (II Tim. 4:2). He will speak God's word faithfully (Jer. 23:28).

May the Lord open our eyes that we may see things as they truly are (II Kings 6:17).

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John Waddey, Editor
Christianity: Then and Now

E-Mail: mailto:johnwaddey@aol.com

 
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Re: THE MANY FACES OF RELIGIOUS LIBERALISM

April 12 2011, 7:28 PM 

This is trash, extremely judgmental and unloving.

 
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Ken Sublet
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The Truth:

April 12 2011, 10:20 PM 

All wings of religious pomposity and making long orations to pick the widow's purse flatter themselves. Jesus promised:

Rest is from the inflaming rhetoric or orators and sermons.

orator , ris, m. oro, one who speaks.I. A speaker, orator (very common in all periods and styles of writing
III. One who prays or supplicates for any thing, an entreater, beseecher, suppliant (Plautin.), Plaut. Poen. 1, 2, 145; so in the twofold signif. of ambassador and beseecher, id. Stich. 3, 2, 39.

ex-stinguo (ext- ), nxi, nctum, 3 (archaic
sermo omnis ille oblivione posteritatis extinguitur, id. Rep. 6, 23 fin.; cf.:


I am not aware of a published person on either wing of the institute spectrum who can boast of being either a liberal or a conservative. Jesus said the doctors of the law take away the key to knowledge.

So, the fact is that those who corrupt the Word (sell learning at retail) study theology and there are not enough degrees to teach them how to do word mining. Each needs to be a rhetorician (hypocrite says Jesus) or entertainer and then know just enough creedal fodder to fool the elders but not the disciples especially the purple hairs.

There probably are none of the word peddlers in the extant spawn who believes much of the Bible or does not believe that they have so evolved that what Jesus commanded to be taught is suitable for our changed culture. Wow! culture is always a changing on us. That is why preaching and singing does not obey the command to use "that which is written for our learning" and do not grasp that SPEAK is the opposite of poetry or music: simple simons who decide to become a Disciple of Christ will understand that disciples don't do worship services as in rituals by rote. Church has one piece to its pattern: "teach that which Jesus commanded to be taught" and grasp that Peter etal left a written memory as a way to MARK those who steal the key to knowledge.

Proof-texting Proverbs 16 led me (a disciple) to do a study of Proverbs16 appealing to word definitions and real Latin and Greek literature which makes it agree with Matthew 11 which repudiates the rhetorical, singers and instrument players as VIOLENT mean trying to confiscate the kingdom by Violent. I will post it shortly. In the meantime you can learn more from Matthew 11 than you will or can at a school of know-nothing theology: not well versed to be a liberal. Just dumb.

If you cause those who labor and heavy laden to carry you piggy-back while you are defined by Jesus in Matthew 11 there is no redemption. Not in any of the music-religious patterns.

http://www.piney.com/Matthew.11.Labor.Heavy.Laden.html

Judging is IMPOSING those laded burdens and burden laders.


 
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I am Wonder Still Yet

April 14 2011, 11:25 AM 

Hey Donnie,
When Ken says the following....."I am not aware of a published person on either wing of the institute spectrum who can boast of being either a liberal or a conservative. Jesus said the doctors of the law take away the key to knowledge," how do you interpret that???

It sounds like there is a condemnation for both sides (liberal or conservative), which means that Ken is condemning John Waddey. Do you concur?

 
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