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Willow Creek / Spiritual Formation at LU: Relaunch

February 3 2010 at 8:28 PM
Ken Sublett  (no login)
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We warned you long ago that the witchery was coming to Nashville.

This included:

This conference proposes that WE allow the worlds imagined
in the essential biblical narratives
to dramatically shape our preaching and lives.

We believe that preaching reconstitutes biblical paradigms when it engages Scriptures vision

1. by representing what is absent
2. and making present what is inaccessible
3. to the end that followers of God will live into a God-shaped reality.

Not only that, you can get a doctorate when Jesus SAID essentially that the "doctors of the law TAKE AWAY the key to knowledge."

ICSs inaugural event, Nurture 2010 on March 2, will offer a day of free seminars for ministers, other church leaders and individuals interested in enhancing their spiritual lives. The seminar concludes with a 7 p.m. free keynote speech and book signing by Ortberg, pastor at Menlo Park Presbyterian Church in Menlo Park, Calif., in Lipscombs Allen Arena.

We also warned you about the REFORMED background at Lipscomb.

Ortberg, a nationally recognized speaker and writer on spiritual formation, has compiled his research, insight and experiences in his latest book, The Me I Want To Be, designed as a practical guide for living the best life possible for God. He is the author of many other books, including The Life You've Always Wanted: Spiritual Growth for Ordinary People, Faith & Doubt and When the Game Is Over, It All Goes.

Prior to his work in Menlo Park, Ortberg served as teaching pastor at Willow Creek Community Church, South Barrington, Ill., one of the largest congregations in the nation.

Details of the Nurture 2010 seminars are available at Advance registration is recommended and is also available at For more information on this event e-mail


"We ask that Participating Members of Willow Creek minimally be able to affirm and joyfully sit under the teaching of women teachers ... that they can joyfully submit to the leadership of women in various leadership positions at Willow Creek."

A letter from Mr. Bilezikian to Mr. Carr confirmed the church's position: "I commend you for wanting to serve with integrity in a church that is compatible with your view.

Obviously Willow Creek is not that place." At that point Mr. Carr gave up the idea of membership.

Willow Creek teacher Mr. Ortberg says the need for agreement is an "issue of integrity"

But complementarian Wayne Grudem uses no euphemisms in his analysis of the Willow Creek position:

"The way an egalitarian view triumphs is by a suppression of information and discussion."

Scholars have long noted that religionism in contrast to what Jesus taught and commanded is the arena for females and the effeminate. That is why males usually participate to keep peache in the family whereas males would be "outside the camp" resting with Jesus Whose Gospel is to "come learn of ME."

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Ken Sublett
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Is this witchcraft or what?

February 5 2010, 1:01 PM 

We have noted that John Mark Hicks defines the Lipscomb PATTERNISM as opposed to the TEXAS patternism as the desirable one. That includes a new view of transforming the Campbells into a radical form of the trinity, a broader role for women, instrumental music and the apocalyptic vision which THEY translate to a milllenniel view.

The new DOCTORATE in Spiritual Formation is absolutely defined in history as a form of witchcraft even as John defines rhetoric, singers and instrument players as sorcerers under the MOTHER from Babylon.



The Institute for Christian Spirituality nurtures the personal discipleship of Christ followers by cultivating a deeper awareness and participation in the Holy Spirits redemptive activity among us, within us, and through us in the world. pursues this mission by exploring spiritually forming practices and facilitating the journey with others through spiritual friendships and spiritual direction.

John said that the NAME of the Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ the Righteous: you probably thought that God in Christ REDEEMED us at the cross.


PAGE 3 The Institute defines Christian spirituality as the work of God in human lives. As disciples of Jesus in pursuit of His kingdom, we experience ongoing transformation by the activity of the Holy Spirit within us. We respond to that grace by embodying Christ personally and collectively in faith communities. All the programs of ICS focus on this loving work of God the Father in his Son Jesus who lives in us through the Holy Spirit. We do not know how to love God or neighbor redemptively except through Christ who lives in us. Christian spirituality encompasses different ways we can open our hearts and lives to give and receive the love of God.

All of these "code words" used by John Ortberg--ex Willow Creek which fueled the Jubilee under Rubel Shelly and the then president of LU have mystical connotations.

1:45-4:30 p.m.
ICS faculty sessions in the Ezell Center on:

* Prayer
* Sacred reading
* Silence and solitude
* Seeing God in the events of life

Contemplatieve or CENTERING prayer is an ancient form of mysticism more fitted for MONKS than for ministers.

The practice of Sacred Reading of Lection Divina involves taking a page of Scripture and reading it over and over and over. One MONK suggests.

"Choose a text of the Scriptures ... Place yourself in a comfortable position and allow yourself to become silent. Some Christians focus for a few moments on their breathing; others have a beloved 'prayer word' or 'prayer phrase' they gently recite in order to become interiorly silent. For some the practice known as 'centering prayer' makes a good, brief introduction to lectio divina....

Then turn to the text and read it slowly, gently. Savor each portion of the reading, constantly listening for the 'still, small voice' of a word or phrase that somehow says, 'I am for you today ...'

Next take the word or phrase into yourself. Memorize it and slowly repeat it to yourself, allowing it to interact with your inner world of concerns, memories and ideas.

Learn to use words when words are helpful, and to let go of words when they no longer are necessary. Rejoice in the knowledge that God is with you in both words and silence, in spiritual activity and inner receptivity."

In Richard Fosters book, Devotional Classics, he quotes 16th Century mystic Madame Guyon to describe the practice, make use of scripture to quiet your mind. First read a passage of scripture.
....Once you sense the Lords presence, the content of what you read is no longer important.

The scripture has served its purpose; has quieted your mind; it has brought you to him.

You should always remember that you are not there to gain an understanding of what you have read; rather you are reading to turn your mind from the outward things to the deep parts of your being.

You are not there to learn or to read,
but you are there to experience the presence of your Lord!

Paul warned about a giant outbreak of DEMONISM in the last day and where better to start than preparing preachers. This is assuredly a strong delusion and the LYING WONDERS includes all of the performing or hypocritic arts.

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Whazzzzzzzzzz Up?

February 11 2010, 12:47 PM 

How is things in Hohenwald? Wrestled any bears lately?
How is the health?

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Rivers of Living Waters from Lipscomb Council 2009

February 28 2010, 4:30 PM

David Lipscomb Summer Celebration 2009 "Rivers of Living Waters." The select precenters at the Lipscomb Church Council 2009 believe that the Spirit OF Christ is another person. That Spirit in the minds of those "BORN FROM ABOVE" supercedes the olden Bible "sifted away by philosophy, evolution and the Heseinberg Uncertainty Principle." They say that nothing is certain when you move at the speed of light happy.gif Spiritual Formation or mysticism is the place where the Spirit speaks to them.

Rough notes: I will tackle their claim "you must be born again" really means BORN FROM ABOVE. As one old Scholar notes, they think that THEY were born FROM heaven. So, you can understand their claim to fame and the right to read, interpret and speak what they hear audibly.

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