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Ken Sublett
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Religious Music is Sacred Violence

October 29 2016, 5:25 PM 

Rene Girard

5.4.1 The ordinary matrix by which we humans live is the perspective of the perpetrators of collective violence against victims. Human enslavement to the perpetrator's perspective of sacred violence is at the foundation of all human culture. With the perpetrator's perspective penetrating everywhere to things human, it is the victim's perspective which is truly unique.

5.4.2 Behind the anthropological predilections against the victim's perspective, there is a very practical, quasi-historical reason: namely, the victim is shunned and often killed. In the ancient world, the role of music during ritual sacrifice was often to drown out any cries from the victim. (45) It is crucial that the victim not be heard. The practical mechanics of making victims means that it is unusual for the victim's perspective to survive. In the world of ancient ritual it was probably impossible.

45. The Greek verb myo means to close the mouth or shut the eyes. There is debate about whether myo plays a crucial role in the etymology of other significant words such as myth, mystery, and even music. These etymologies make sense within the Girardian hypotheses. Myth means to close ourselves to the victim and tell the tale according to the perpetrator's perspective; mystery cults are based on the silence of the victims; music derives from drowning out the voice of the victim.


In prophecy and fulfilment they are marked as being "driven into Hell or the Lake of Fire" even as they are still living.

3466. musth/rion musterion, moos-tay´-ree-on; from a derivative of mu/w muo (to shut the mouth); a secret or “mystery” (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites): — mystery. >D.S.15.7

Diororus, Siculus. 15.7.[2] Dionysius did not renounce his zeal for poetry but dispatched to the Olympic Games2 actors with the most pleasing voices who should present a musical performance of his poems for the assembled throng.

At first their pleasing voices filled the hearers with admiration, but later, on further reflection, the reciters were despised and rewarded with laughter.

[3] Dionysius, on learning of the slight that was cast upon his poems, fell into a fit of melancholy.3 His condition grew constantly worse and a madness seized his mind, so that he kept saying that he was the victim of jealousy and suspected all his friends of plotting against him.

At last his frenzy and madness went so far that he slew many of his friends on false charges, and he drove not a few into exile, among whom were Philistus and his own brother Leptines, men of outstanding courage who had rendered him many important services in his wars. [4] These men, then, passed their banishment in Thurii in Italy where they were cordially welcomed by the Italian Greeks. Later, at the request of Dionysius, they were reconciled with him and returned to Syracuse where they enjoyed his former goodwill, and Leptines married Dionysius' daughter.


C. Leonard Allen LU-Guru defending the trinity says that God is ECSTATIC:

Para-phora II. mostly of the mind, derangement, distraclion, A. Eu.330(lyr.) ;; frenzy, p. kai ekstasis Iamb.Myst.3.7 ; ; podôn p. irregular gait, Adam.2.21. methiêmi (drunk without wine) ,[give up, abandon, give up the ghost

Ekstasis 2.distraction of mind, from terror, astonishment, anger,
4.trance, Act.Ap.10.10, 22.17 ; ecstasy, Plot.6.9.11 ; e. kai mania Herm. in Phdr.p.103A.
b. drunken excitement, Corn.ND30.


The Musical Worship Team with or without instruments are self-imposed or USED to enhance the income and believe, like Nero, that they are indeed MEDIATORS with God. Up to half of the "owners" flee and never look back and the Music Staff cannot comprehend with how much disdain they create by many of those refusing to be chased out by the LOCUSTS or Apollon's muses.

Without a single verse of authority they are Purpose Driven to Sow Discord: In Isaiah the prophesy and Revelation as the fulfillment they are taking the MARK of God driving His enemies into Hell or the LAKE OR FIRE. The marks in sight and sound are wind, string and percussion instruments. These were first brought into the garden of Eden as the "singing and harp-playing prostitute" and the end time by "lusted after fruits."



    
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