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Dr. Bill Crump
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Re: What the Bible does not say

March 2 2011, 10:43 PM 

Since the change agents pervert the Church that Christ established, they are wicked. Since they are wicked, they should be removed. The Bible doesn't explicitly have to say, "Remove the change agents from among yourselves." Anyone who is wicked is to be REMOVED. Of course, the exceedingly narrow person would argue, "The Bible doesn't say, 'Remove the wicked woman from among yourselves'; therefore, wicked women cannot be removed, only wicked men." Again, anyone who is wicked is to be removed, whether they are wicked change agents or even wicked officers of the Church.

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Ken Sublett
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March 2 2011, 11:03 PM 

Yes, in fact, I think that Christ HAS removed them. For instance the use of instruments throughout the Old Testament seems to MARK those who say to God "I will not use your words."

When John identifies the slick preachers, singers and instrument players as sorcerers who HAD deceived the whole world (Revelation 18) the LAMPS are removed at the same time. That means, to me, that when the people fall into the musical trap under the Babylon mother of harlots (Rev 17) they ARE defacto removed from the Body of Christ.

Thereafter, their instrumental sorcerers are EXCISED from the church of Christ along with the lampstands.

The example of Amos is when the songs become howlings in the temple it is a sign that God has been there and "will not pass by them again" forever more.

They lost their ability to choose when they began to meddle with the Word of God and lie about all of the instrument passages. God sends the strong delusions and the MARK is all of the "hypocritic" arts and crafts.

The message of the LOCUSTS which are Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon) musical worshipteam lull them to sleep and then gives them the sting of death. While they think they are "spiritual" the style of music was always known to drive them into charismatic ecstasy. So, while promising them liberty they make them slaves beyond redemption.

I tend to believe that the separating the tares from the wheat is now taking place. Both Isaiah 30 and Revelation consignes the sorcerers (speakers, singers, instrument players) to the Lake of Fire.

Why won't they believe Christ in Isaiah? Simply because the instruments are signs of punishment already begun.

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