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You are Wrong!

June 20 2011, 12:46 AM 

Donnie, you asked "How would you even expect "the ungodly" to comprehend what's going on?"

The answer to your question is.....THEY DO NOT KNOW NOR COMPREHEND......and that is why the ungodly shouldn't be informed of church matters.
You sinned when you took it outside of the church doors.
You showed how immature you are when you brought it here to gain an audience to hear your complaint. These matters should have stayed between the saints to deal with....even if you feel you didn't get the answer and outcome you wanted.
You have sinned by building this ungodly site.

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Donnie Cruz
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The Change Agents Are Wrong

June 20 2011, 1:20 AM 


The brethren who built this site were wise; they were able to foresee the dangers the church of Christ Jesus was facing -- way BEFORE this Donnie even became aware of it.

"Between the saints," did you say? No, Dave, the change agents were/are scattered. That's why we keep mentioning "the brotherhood." They've even reached YOU, whether or not you were aware of it. You've even come to support their cause. Did you know that? Do you know that?

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I Shouldn't Expect More

June 20 2011, 1:38 AM 

You are sounding ridiculous now.

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Dr. Bill Crump
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Re: I Shouldn't Expect More

June 20 2011, 7:19 AM 

[. . .]

See Thread: "How to Settle a Brother's Dispute with Another Brother in the Church"

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Sin Today is Sin Tomorrow

June 20 2011, 9:48 AM 

The brethren who built this site did so [. . .]


See Thread: "How to Settle a Brother's Dispute with Another Brother in the Church"

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