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The Heat Getting to You?

June 2 2011, 11:39 AM 

Ken, If the evidence is "100% overwhelming," then you wouldn't have to assume and interpret.
Have you now fallen in the ditch and can't get out?

Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
THAT, Ken, is 100% Proof Positive.

What you claim about music, and more importantly, make assumptions about what Jesus and others have said about music, is self-condemning.
You have been blinded. You see what you want to see instead of what God wants you to see.

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Ken Sublet
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To prove a point.

June 2 2011, 12:04 PM 

You can have Jesus show up and say it and it would make NO DIFFERENCE: once you have dedicated yourself in a religious sense as adorning or AIDING God you cannot be redeemed and MUST be burned.

When Christ in Malachi 3 etal uses the word SORCERY that is self evidence. The problem is that if you are a Scribe or Pharisee (speaker, singer or instrument player) YOU cannot slow down and define your own profession wiped out.

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Ken Sublet
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Malachi and the GRACE message

June 2 2011, 11:30 PM 

The evil of music in several passages was that it starved people for lack of the Word and as a result it was easy to take them captive.

Making church a ritualistic worship center--Richland Hills boasts of a mostly music worship--as opposed to ekklesia, synagogue or School of the Word is that people can deliberaly begin to burn away or destroy your spirit or mind needed to be with Jesus in the next stage.

When you sermonize and give all of yur attention to the 'worship team" or to your own singing of not or anti-Biblical words is that they can be exposing your nakedness (Re Romans 15) and you even boast about it on Facebook.

The problem is that a God given and then a God purified spirit is a very fragile thing: the crooked race always pointed to Apollo, Dionysus etal from Egypt onward uses a style of music which taps into the wave patterns in the brain and thereby forces you to dance or bow over to them. Why else would people sow so much discord trying to force people to drink their KoolAid or spreading hate to people who refuse to let their Christ-cleansed spirit be manipulated by hyhpocrites: preachers, singers, instrument players in the prophecy of Christ and all known literature.

Here is a bit more research on Malachi 3: people go ballistic because I do this while they are being seduced into body worship and claim they are superior or more GRACECENTERED. Sure enough-the GRACE concept of the world is antithetical to the grace taught by Jesus. And the fruits of being connected to Christ are NOT the samme as the chants of the fruits.

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You ARE worshiping the having-fallen star, Apollo,Abaddon,Apollyon, the Jews worshipped because ALL of those imposing instruments say that "a spirit" told them to use the Goat-Burning warrior noise trying to purify their temple, their bodies AND attract the bulk of the nation who REPUDIATED their slave labor driven by the musical Levites.

You shouldn't make fun of PATTERNISM because they DO repeat.

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Simplicity is Best

June 3 2011, 8:57 AM 

Ken said "people go ballistic because I do this while they are being seduced into body worship and claim they are superior or more GRACECENTERED."

Ken, you offend people because you don't do what you say. You claim to speak that which is written but use books that aren't a part of the Word (Enoch). Again, you don't believe that God has the power to keep His Word intact so you believe that something else needs added. God has directed men all along to keep His Word (66 books) just the way He wants. Then you pour in your Greek mythology and expect to be credited with teaching the Truth? The Word is more than competent to stand alone. It doesn't need yours or my interpretation. It doesn't need commentaries nor Greek mythology to explain it. It is FULL and COMPLETE and needs NOTHING nor ANYONE to add anything to it. Ken, think about it. Greek mythology. Think especially about the second word. MYTHOLOGY.
Ken, in the OT men worshipped pagan gods. Those gods only existed in their minds. All of these greek gods that you speak of do not exist. There is only ONE GOD.

Myth: a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence

Sometimes, even for those who believe that they know have to make it simple for them so they can understand.

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Dr. Bill Crump
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Re: Simplicity is Best

June 3 2011, 11:06 AM 

Dave still claims to speak for everyone, when he only speaks for himself. Ken offends only Dave, because Dave still doesn't (and never will) really understand what Ken is talking about.

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Ken Sublett
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Don't waste your mind and time on songs and sermons that rhyme

June 3 2011, 11:36 AM 

Prince the Piper
A little, friv'lous, abject mind,
Pleased with the rabble, puff'd with wind,
When once, as fast as pride presumes,
Itself with vanity it plumes,

Is by fond lightness brought with ease
To any ridicule you please.
One Prince, a piper to the play,
Was rather noted in his way,

As call'd upon to show his art,
Whene'er Bathyllus did his part,
He being at a certain fair,
(I do not well remember where,)

While they pull'd down the booth in haste,
Not taking heed, his leg displaced,
He from the scaffold fell so hard-
(Would he his pipes had rather marr'd!

Though they, poor fellow! were to him
As dear almost as life and limb).
Borne by the kind officious crowd,
Home he's conducted, groaning loud.

Some months elapsed before he found
Himself recover'd of his wound:
Meantime, according to their way,
The droll frequenters of the play

Had a great miss of him, whose touch
The dancers' spirits raised so much.
A certain man of high renown
Was just preparing for the town

Some games the mob to entertain,
When Prince began to walk again;
Whom, what with bribes and pray'rs, his grace?
Prevail'd upon to show his face

In this performance, by all means-
And while he waits behind the scenes,
A rumour through the house is spread,
By certain, that "the piper's dead."

Others cried out, "The man is here,
And will immediately appear."
The curtain draws, the lightnings flash,
The gods speak out their usual trash.

An ode, not to the Piper known,
Was to the chorus leader shown,
Which he was order'd to repeat,
And which was closed with this conceit-
"Receive with joy, O loyal Rome,
Thy Prince just rescued from his tomb."
They all at once stand up and clap,
At which my most facetious chap

Kisses his hand, and scrapes and bows
To his good patrons in the house.
First the equestrian order smoke
The fool's mistake, and high in joke,

Command the song to be encored;
Which ended, flat upon the board
The Piper falls, the knights acclaim;
The people think that Prince's aim

Is for a crown of bays at least.
Now all the seats perceived the jest,
And with his bandage white as snow,
White frock, white pumps, a perfect beauty

Proud of the feats he had achieved,
And these high honours he received,
With one unanimous huzza,
Poor Prince was kick'd out of the play.

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Ken Sublett
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Still running on empty

July 31 2011, 8:58 PM 

Looks like Grace Centered Forum is running on empty: vain and vapid.
That's what happens when you are willing to teach false doctrine but not brave enough to let the Bible do the speaking.

I check in every once in a while and understand why it is an orphan.

Don't forget to remember that I am still posting BIBLE in Review at this site.

If Jesus ever said it they will deny it: that fine. They DENY the only means of GRACE.

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No grace for that band of brothers who love to call Jesus a liar about baptism.

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Re: Grace Centered Magazine Advertises End of world, May 21

December 1 2011, 12:51 AM 

I'd like to know more about Grace Centered Forums.

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Re: Grace Centered Magazine Advertises End of world, May 21

December 1 2011, 7:27 PM

Lollipop, follow the above link. I think that "End of world, May 21" was just an ad that run on their site. I am not sure who sponsered the advertisement.

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Re: Grace Centered Magazine Advertises End of world, May 21

December 21 2011, 4:21 AM 

Thank you for the link. I have some things I'd like to say about this forum, things that are going on but I don't want to say anything on here out in the open.

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Re: Grace Centered Magazine Advertises End of world, May 21

December 21 2011, 4:47 AM 

I've tried to email ken but his email isn't working.

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Ken Sublett
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end of the world

December 21 2011, 10:17 AM 

It may have been an ADD--commerce you know.

However this was at the same time all of the ANTI church of Christ people were posting their attacks and radically modifying my posts--mostly Scripture--or eleminating them totally. Finally "black-listing" my posts in the PSEUTO-Church of Christ thread moderated by Larry? and Johnbp. At the same time lots of personal attacks on me personally.

If you attack me or the forum personally I would hope that you would point to something about Scripture.


Yes, we know about people who sow discord and blame those who have been DEPRIVED of their church property and family for resisting.


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Re: end of the world

January 13 2012, 5:54 AM 

Well, I got banned from 'grace centered forums'

To anyone reading this 'STAY AWAY FROM THAT UNGODLY PLACE!'

It is the most unchristian and appalling place that I have ever seen masquearding as a christian forum. It is anything but.
You are persecuted for being a christian while those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit and those who are unsaved are allowed to say as they like.
Woe to you Admin, you have a lot to give an account for on judgement day.

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Ken Sublett
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Congratulations for being viper bit!

January 13 2012, 12:40 PM 

They are a pretty vile bunch: sad, sad that those claiming to be preachers will hurt you real bad if you even respond to their claim of authority from God to use musical machines. Pugilist at best


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Ken Sublett
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Lee Freeman

January 13 2012, 1:11 PM 

I was scanning and came upon Lee Freeman's twisting of the bible and recorded history:

Lee FreemanThe Christian Church, or Disciples of Christ, was officially founded when Thomas and Alexander Campbells Disciples, or Reformers, and Stones Christians, united on New Years Day, 1832 in Lexington, Kentucky. Stone had begun a unity and reform movement as a result of events that flowed out of the famous Cane Ridge Revival of 1801, the revival which began the Second Great Awakening on the American Frontier.

Of course as I would say on my kinder days: that is a bald faced lie. The disciples of Stone were a product of the witchcraft at Cane Ridge, Ky (bourbon county!) had nothing in common with what became Churches of Christ. At that time Stone didn't believe in baptism and denied the Atonement. Both Stone and Campbell DENIED that there was ever a union but Lee Freeman etal can never quit lying as a way to blame those who NEVER used machines for refusing ALWAYS to be forced into sinning against God and HIS Word

1934 came AFTE 1932:

In The Christian Messenger for November, 1834, is quoted an article from the Millennial Harbinger (Campbell's paper) as follows:

"Or does he (Stone) think that one or two individuals, of and for themselves, should propose and effect a formal union among the hundred of congregations scattered over this continent, called Christians or Disciples, without calling upon the different congregations to express an opinion or a wish upon the subject?

We discover, or think we discover, a squinting at [14] some sort of precedency or priority in the claims of the writer of the above article," etc.

It is well known that Mr. Campbell insisted upon immersion before believers were received into fellowship, to which Stone answered:

"We cannot, with our present views, unite on the opinions that unimmersed persons cannot receive remission of sins."

And though later on he came to teach immersion in water for the remission of sins, there is no evidence that he ever made it a test of fellowship, without which he could not have been a member of the Disciples of Christ.

Did Barton W. Stone Join the Disciples of Christ
Because UNITY or agreeing to disagree was so important to Barton W. Stone he,
too, saw the .... Of this union The Christian Messenger, edited by Rev. ..

People can make a profession of lying ABOUT churches of Christ but are not manly enough to allow any real rebuttal. Even pseudo-church of Christ preachers will pour out venom if you cross their paths with too much Bible.

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Tom Brite
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Re: Congratulations for being viper bit!

January 13 2012, 3:24 PM 

That place seems pretty dead to me. I rarely look at it anymore.

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