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R*
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The Real Deal

July 24 2011, 2:38 PM 

Doctor, do you ever wonder why no one cares to post here? You have some real issues. This is not a classroom. There are no students. You are not the teacher. Grammar is not the discussion topic. Seek some help soon.
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Dr. Bill Crump
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Re: The Real Deal

July 24 2011, 9:40 PM 

So spelling, grammar, and punctuation alienate R*. It's so odd that someone would become so agitated and upset over a little SGP.

The real issue, however, is R*'s increasingly hostile attitude. Someone who posts an animated cartoon of a boot stomping a smiley face has quite a few problems of his own. Could that cartoon be some kind of Freudian suggestion that R* would literally like to do the same to Dr. Crump? Hmmm?

Remember the movie The Dirty Dozen, starring Lee Marvin as Major Reisman? The major was in charge of 12 dysfunctional soldiers who had been convicted of various crimes. Reisman whipped his men into shape for a special mission against the Nazis in Europe. During a training session, Reisman held up a huge knife and said to the men, "Now, which one of you would like to stick this in the major?" He said that, because he knew the men hated him as an authority figure.

And so it is with R* and his little animated cartoon of a boot stomping a smiley face. Would R* literally like to kick Dr. Crump in the face if he could--all because of a little SGP?

Man, Dr. Crump "ain't" the one who needs some help big-time!

 
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Donnie
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ConcernedMembersMadison
99.177.249.211

Any Thread That Is Not About "Grammar"

July 24 2011, 8:49 PM 

I think we all can agree that pointing out anyone's grammatical error, or responding to it, has no place in any serious religious or doctrinal discussion. Why? It is disruptive. It results in antagonism and hostility -- we all know this from "experience."

We offer the following suggestions:

1) Instead, a poster may politely ask for clarification.
2) A special thread for that purpose is available.
3) Let us avoid posting grammatical issues outside of that thread.
4) Let us avoid responding to that post.
5) Even a well-written post of this nature, if not published, may be a waste of time.


 
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Tom Brite
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Re: Any Thread That Is Not About "Grammar"

July 24 2011, 10:47 PM 

Donnie, you run the risk of having Mr. Crump take his ball and run home, but, thank you!

 
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Dr. Bill Crump
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Re: Any Thread That Is Not About "Grammar"

July 25 2011, 12:18 AM 

Tom's scholarly discussions here bowl everyone over. They are absolutely astounding. wink.gif

 
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Tom Brite
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Re: Any Thread That Is Not About "Grammar"

July 25 2011, 1:20 PM 

As soon as Mr. Crump engages in a discussion that is halfway scholarly, or even halfway intelligent for that matter, I will be more than happy to take part. Until then, I will be happy to read most of Ken's postings.

 
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Dave
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69.59.112.185

What Ya Think?

July 24 2011, 10:47 PM 

Good one Donnie. It may have not had anything to do with a Biblical discussion, and this site is known for that, but still good. If you really made an 11 on the narcissism quiz that I offered up a person would maybe consider your last post as good advice and heed accordingly. You have made this suggestion before Donnie.....have you not?

Just thinking though Donnie, without discussions like spelling and grammar to liven up this place, wouldn't you think the traffic would go down from the present 3 or 4 that post here down to 1 or 2?

 
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Dr. Bill Crump
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Re: What Ya Think?

July 25 2011, 12:37 AM 

I will have to agree with Dave on this one (and that's a first). If grammatical corrections are confined to the SGP thread, no one will read them, and there will be no lively discussions at all. Posts will dwindle to those primarily by Ken with Dave's ragging him, followed by Donnie's reprimanding Dave for un-Christ-like behavior. Between Dave and Dr. Crump, the latter provides the more stimulating discussions, IMHO. wink.gif Otherwise this site will virtually become a desert. But if Donnie wants this site to wind down and snooze, that's his choice.

All of you should be ashamed of yourselves for letting a little SGP get under your skins. You act like you had suffered some kind of severe psychological trauma over SGP in elementary school. Great jumpin' Caesar's ghost! What a bunch!

 
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Donnie Cruz
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ConcernedMembersMadison
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Re: What Ya Think?

July 25 2011, 12:53 AM 

Actually, it goes both ways ... respondents ([linked image]) to "special lessons" [wink.gif] included.

Traffic may not necessarily be determined by responses. There are stats available. We do have readers/viewers in "universal studios" -- Russia, Ukraine, U.K., etc.

Now ... back to this thread. "Ephesians 5..."?

 
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Dr. Bill Crump
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Re: What Ya Think?

July 25 2011, 2:27 AM 

Actually, I don't think Dave was talking about "traffic" or the number of readers who visit CM. He was talking about the number of people who actually participate and post messages here; those participants are few and far between. And if there's not a "diversity" if discussion...well...those numbers are likely to drop even more. Maybe it's just too "hot" for the average reader to post here. wink.gif

 
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R*
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Re: What Ya Think?

July 25 2011, 10:09 AM 

I believe that I will go ahead and dip out. I think y'all already have the kind of forum you want here. I find it all a bit strange. It's not for me.

 
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