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Is pornography grounds for divorce? (2nd attempt/edition)

September 26 2011 at 8:00 PM
Sonny  (no login)
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I am wanting input on the issue of pornography pertaining to "sexual immorality" and divorce in Matthew 19. The elders of a very large and respected congregation of which I have family in attendance have had an issue with some wives seeking divorce and the elders have said that pornography is not biblical grounds. I have not heard much teaching directly on this, but know that apparently pornography is a real issue in many marriages. I do not know what the mainstream thought is in the brotherhood but I thought that pornea was a reference to any sexual uncleanness or impurity. Any insight?

-Sonny

 
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Donnie
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Committing Adultery in His Heart

September 26 2011, 9:10 PM 

Here's a passage from Matt. 5:28 -- "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

What is the difference between: (a) pornography and (b) photography [looking] on a woman to lust after her?

Which is more severe: (a) committing adultery with her already in his heart; or (b) committing adultery literally?

 
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Re: Committing Adultery in His Heart

September 27 2011, 5:40 PM 

A man who adores and engages in porno has broken the bond which can only be determined by the offended person.

There is no LAW because there is no Case Law in the Bible or early church history of elders presuming to be judge and jury in this personal relationship.

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I gleaned (being careful not to pick and choose wink.gif) the above statements from Ken's post from yesterday. I have to say I agree with the above statements. Is it normal protocol for COC members to go through the elders on such matters?

Donnie, to answer your question it is all sin with no difference.

 
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