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Dave
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64.234.85.24

Bowing That Knee Gives the Back Flexibility

November 28 2011, 3:36 PM 

All men, including King David, achieve humility because God deems it so. He gives men up to be tested so they can be humble. "Every knee shall bow" even for those who refuse to be humble.

There is your humility thread Ken. Remember too Ken that "all men" and Every knee" includes me......and YOU!

As the message title speaks......bowing your knee is great exercise. It also means you have to get back up!

 
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Anonymous
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From the Sidelines

December 3 2011, 12:32 AM 

I've noticed that the [. . .]


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Bush Billboard Looms Over Highway: Miss Me Yet?

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Anonymous
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From the Sidelines

December 3 2011, 11:57 AM 

So the only "activity" in three days is a "Sidelines" message from Anonymous and Donnie responds by posting an idiotic [...] instead, as if

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This was not an idiotic [...]:

Bush Billboard Looms Over Highway: Miss Me Yet?

[ Me = ConcernedMembers ]

This site readily accepts and publishes worthy messages -- not "sidelines" messages -- especially from someone who knows better.


    
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Ken Sublett
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ConcernedMembersMadison
166.248.128.82

Legalism (religion) and Grace (just stop it)

December 3 2011, 1:49 PM 

We have said over and over to prove that most cannot grasp it that Christ ordained the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness. The EXCLUSIVE role while RESTING from paganism religionism was to READ and meditate on the Word of God which existed at the time.

The New Testament church did not change that inclusive / exclusive role but added the Lord's Supper to preach the death of Jesus Christ. That is a confession that JESUS died for your sins: the clergy rhetoricians and musicians DID NOT. As the Church in the wilderness built upon the Rock PREACHED Moses by READING Moses. In the NT church the Words of Christ in the prophets and apostles is preached by reading.

Teaching and practicing BEYOND THE SACRED PAGES is THE meaning of Legalism: performing long ceremonies to bewitch people into believing that the musical worship team can LEAD YOU INTO THE PRESENCE OF GOD. At ACU they even learn you a degree on how to PARTNER with the Holy Spirit. Why do they all lie? Because you will believe it. Paul said that fools love to be fooled.

What you call Grace-Centered Religionism Plato noted what everyone knew:
Instead of seeking to avoid wrong-doing,
Do wrong and then try to make good.


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Ken Sublett
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ConcernedMembersMadison
166.248.69.35

Luther etal agrees with the Church of Christ

December 6 2011, 1:58 PM 

I find it interesting that the STRONG DELUSIONS promised for those with no interest in the text is marked for your avoidance by performance preachers, singers and instrument players. Consistent with the meaning of Satan they love to steal your property and brand you as diseased for yelling "thief" when they boast about taking over your youth by taking them to musical performance getaways:

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Writing on Romans 15 and 15, Luther dismissed everything but praise to God through HIS WORD as useless. He appeals to Micah 2 which most mumblers have never read.

http://www.piney.com//Micah.2.Instrumental.Music.Replaces.Gods.Word.html

http://www.piney.com/RefMLuthRom15.html

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Ken Sublett
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Church Shrinking?

December 6 2011, 6:22 PM 

The Church is not a TREE which tends to grow large enough for the birds (demons) to rest: the true Kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU and does not come with religious observation (services). A true Church of Christ would never lie, cheat and steal to become the biggest phallic symbol of civic pride: it is like leaven which Jesus continues to kick like a mushroom to make it spread. A thing which grows very large in one place is called a Cancer.

Notes from Dr. Flavil Yeakley meeting in 2008

* Churches of Christ constitute the 12th largest religious group in America.
* Churches of Christ are the 6th fastest growing church in America.
* Churches of Christ rank 4th in the nation in total number of congregations.
* Churches of Christ rank 5th in the nation in number of counties in which there is a congregation.
* Churches of Christ rank 1st in the nation in distribution of congregations.
* Churches of Christ rank 1st in the nation in weekly attendance among its membership.

Another interesting tid-bit from Dr. Yeakleys research was that the greatest retention rate of young people following graduation from high school comes from congregations who are described as middle of the road, whereas the worst retention rate of young people comes from congregations who are described as much more liberal.


The command was to GO and preach what Jesus as the Christ COMMANDED to be taught. If you say "Jesus did say NOT to preach what He did not command" is the certain mark of those not fit to live as pilgrims in the world getting ready for our expanded life as pure or holy spirit.

Lying about GROWTH (an inferiority complex) as a reason for imposing instruments into non-instrumental churches is one of THE most popular appeal used by those who know that God NEVER commanded:

Levites to be Musical Worship ministers but
Levites to be SOOTHSAYERS making instrumental noise.

I am NOT surprised that they have no intention of reading the "restof the story."

 
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Dave
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Teaach a Dog a New Trick

December 7 2011, 9:30 AM 

"The Church is not a TREE which tends to grow large enough for the birds (demons) to rest: the true Kingdom of God is WITHIN YOU and does not come with religious observation (services)."


Ken, you sure have proven that with your couch time, eh? So your interpretation of Hebrew 10:25 isn't meeting together, but ???

And NO Ken....the qualal or church in the wilderness, or just reading the Bible there at your house, and prayer napping on the couch does NOT fulfill Hebrews 10:25.

You might not can always teach a dog a new trick, but you can still give him the Word of God.......now what he does with that Message is up to him.

 
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Ken Sublett
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ConcernedMembersMadison
166.248.69.173

Don't know of one of those!

December 7 2011, 11:17 AM 

Right now I have lost it and am heading to my recliner.

Heb. 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb. 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together,
as the manner of some is;
but exhorting one another:
and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Who calls us into assembly: we call ourselves.
What was the manner of some? Some were giving up meeting altogether: He is not warning about missing a meeting.

1997. episunagoge, ep-ee-soon-ag-o-gay´; from 1996; a complete collection; especially a Christian meeting (for worship): assembling (gathering) together.

Episun-a^gg , h, collective view

1996. episunago, ep-ee-soon-ag´-o; from 1909 and 4863; to collect upon the same place:

4863. sunago, soon-ag´-o; from 4862 and 71; to lead together, i.e. collect or convene; specially, to entertain (hospitably): + accompany, assemble (selves, together), bestow, come together, gather (selves together, up, together), lead into, resort, take in.

4864. sunagoge, soon-ag-o-gay´; from (the reduplicated form of) 4863; an assemblage of persons; specially, a Jewish synagogue (the meeting or the place); by analogy, a Christian church: assembly, congregation, synagogue.

THERE IS NO PRAISE SERVICE IN A SYNAGOGUE.

http://www.piney.com/Synagogue1.html

The great historian J. Robert Teringo wrote: "The fixed order of service began, after the customary greeting, with a prayer while the people remained standing facing the sacred Torah scroll. The reading of the law of Moses was next. The Torah scroll was taken from the chest and placed before a reader who read in the ancient Hebrew tongue and immediately translated it into Aramaic the language of those days. A commentary was always added to this reading. Next, a portion was read from the books of the prophets and, again, immediately translated verse by verse. After a closing prayer, the service was concluded..."

Commentary was explaining from the original text which was never changed. Notice that there is no reading or commentary on the period of the Monarchy which was God having abandoned Israel to the worship of the starry host with the promise that He would not rescue them from the Kings who would enslave the people as cooks, musicians, warriors, concubines.


The synagogue had a poor box in the back which was for the poor: if they lay by the PLATE they violate the direct command for Jim to lay by Jim out of his first day's earnings. I don't won't be caught in one of those fleece pins at my age.

If you can find one of those in my little town let me know. If you cannot find one of those in your town you ARE forsaking the SYNAGOGUE because you have never seen, attended or heard of one.

And the Jesus PATTERNISM: He STOOD UP to read the assigned passage and then uncommonly decently SAT DOWN. If you don't have a command to stand in the face for a long period then DON'T listen, don't pay, don't stay.


 
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Dave
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64.234.85.24

Simplicity at its Best

December 7 2011, 3:43 PM 

We are not talking about a praise service.
We are not talking about a synagogue.
Ken, just PRETEND to stay on the subject...ok?

Heb. 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Heb. 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together,
as the manner of some is;
but exhorting one another:
and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

NOW KEN, the questions is.....can you exhort someone, can you provoke others to good works from a couch and computer?

Didn't think so.....

 
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Ken Sublett
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ConcernedMembersMadison
75.246.239.65

The Encomiast: performing Praise Singer the world's OLDEST professional.

December 7 2011, 9:07 PM 

http://www.piney.com/MuEncomiast.html


Paul defined the ONLY way we can glorify or praise God: use one mind and one mouth to teach that which is written for our learning. The idea that you can sing "praise ditties" and have some influence on the "gods" has a vision of God which will NOT make them fit for a heavenly kingdom.

It was because of musical idolatry "like the nations" that God abandoned Israel to worship the starry host and in the wilderness sentenced them to return to Babylon. The monarchy as a goyim or Babylonian system was identical including the fact that the temple was a ziggurat.


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When you perform the ancient but modern praise service the understanding was that by outrageous antics for which the emotionally and sexually abnormal were qualified and made full time prophets: soothsayers as in the Levite praise howlers.

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Dave
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Know What I mean?

December 7 2011, 9:14 PM 

One-track mind Definition
a focus on one issue or topic, to the exclusion of all else; an obsession with one thing

For example.....babylonian whore, phallic symbols,etc.
In other words.....you have a perverted mind.

 
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Anonymous
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Re: Article on Liberal Snobism: Grace Centered Magazine

December 7 2011, 11:12 PM 

[. . .] catfights [. . .]

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Ken sublett
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ConcernedMembersMadison
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Ken Booted Again!

August 9 2012, 9:59 PM 


http://www.piney.com/GraceCenteredReview.html

I tried very hard to just quote Scripture and define WORDS on Grace Centered. JohnB, DCR and Marc and some powerful woman stood the facts as long as they could. I suppose saying that the use of PSALLO to deliberately sow discord and hatred against those who had NEVER engaged in Lord, Lord Prophesying was BLASPHEMY since it says that the Spirit OF Christ was too ignorant of one of two things:

Since Psallo never means Play An Instrument and has NO musical content, they say that Jesus was too ignorant to use TWO words.

Or, too ignorant not to use COMPOUND WORDS which are always used for each named instrument or type of playing.

Since the Church of Christ Forum is decidedly against Scripture--even by the conservatives--is moderated by those HOSTILE to the Church of Christ, it would seem to be a sly trick.

I have also proven that the Lord, Lord Prophesiers whom Jesus refused to acknowledge were INSTRUMENTAL PROPHESIERS: Just like the Levites who were Soothsayers. That's fine, the word is out and it will have done its work.

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