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To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

March 29 2012 at 7:01 PM
Ken Sublett  (Login Ken.Sublett)
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from IP address 174.252.155.12


From my granddaughter

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B
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74.179.204.40

Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

March 29 2012, 9:13 PM 

Well, I guess that's better than looking at the north end of a south-bound jackass.

 
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The Great Baptizmo
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Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

March 30 2012, 1:36 PM 

Crump,

I am glad it isnt a picture of you either.

 
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Anonymous
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Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

March 30 2012, 2:07 AM 

"If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain.For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness." - 1 Timothy 6:3-12

You are crude, arrogant and boorish and you have no business trying to teach anyone anything.

 
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Dave
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Thanks

March 30 2012, 7:04 PM 

To the Great Baptizmo......now wait....B can't be Crump.....he stated that he would place his hand on the Bible saying B isn't Crump.


Donnie, do your thing one more time that you do so well......EDIT ON!!!

 
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B
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Re: Thanks

March 31 2012, 8:10 AM 

Dave still suffers the delusion (not to mention the obsession) that "B" is William B. Crump. But "B" gladly puts his hand on the Bible and says that he is not William B. Crump. Won't Dave ever learn?

 
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ken sublett
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Vain Babbling: read the text!

March 31 2012, 1:30 PM 

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings,
and oppositions of science [gnosis] falsely so called:

Bebelos (g952) beb'-ay-los; from the base of 939 and belos, (a threshold); accessible (as by crossing the door-way), i.e. (by impl. of Jewish notions) heathenish, wicked: - profane (person)

But shun profane and vain babblings (speaking in tongues: empty and artificial sound): for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 2 Timothy 2:16 (This was part of Gnosticism)

"The priest stands on the threshold (of the temple) and awakens the god calling to him in the Egyptian language." This is how Arnobius mocks the ritual of Isis: 'Why these revels you sing each morning to awaken him, accompanying your songs on the flute? Do the gods go to sleep, then, that they need to be awakened?' At Delphi the Thyads went to waken the young Dionysus, just as at Rhodes Bacchus woke gently from his sleep to the sound of the hydraulic organ." (de Vaux, Roland p. 246).
"The most probable answer seem to be that the chiming of the holy bells was thought to drive far off the envious and wicked spirits who lurked about the door of the sanctuary, ready to pounce on and carry off the richly apparelled minister as he stepped across the threshold in the discharge of his sacred office. At least this view, which has found favour with some modern scholars, is strongly supported by analogy; for it has been a common opinion, from the days of antiquity downwards, that demons and ghosts can be put to flight by the sound of metal, whether it be the musical jingle of little bells, the deep-mouthed clangour of great bells, the shrill clash of cymbals, the booming of gongs, or the simple clink and clank of plates of bronze or iron knocked together or struck with hammer or sticks. Hence, in rites of exorcism it has often been customary for the celebrant either to ring a bell which he holds in his hand, or wear attached to some part of his person a whole nest of bells, which jingle at every movement he makes." (Frazer, James George, Folk-Lore in the Old Testament, p. 417-8, Macmillian, 1923)

 
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B
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Re: Vain Babbling: read the text!

March 31 2012, 5:02 PM 

Yeah, Dave persists in his vain babblings about a fictitious "William B. Crump."

 
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Dave
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Here We Go

April 3 2012, 8:56 AM 

How about a William D. Crump, retired pathologist?

Uh oh......


D stands for Drake, I believe.

You could always opt out with you putting your hand on a Bible to deny it William.


With your alias, lets now make it William ("B"-Alias) D. Crump.

How's that one?

 
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B
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Re: Here We Go

April 3 2012, 10:45 AM 

I think Dave still doesn't realize that currently there is no one posting here as "William B. Crump" or any name of "Crump" for that matter. Looking back in the archives, I saw a number of posts from a "Dr. Bill Crump." Maybe Dave is trying to associate him with this "William B.D.X.Y.Z. Crump" guy. Good readers, Dave really is obsessed about this, isn't he? That's such a wasted way to spend his life.

 
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Donnie Cruz
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ConcernedMembersMadison
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Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

April 4 2012, 3:34 AM 

OK! Certain posts that were "on hold" have now been published.

Dave, you need not make 24 more chances or attempts at B's middle initial. You've already tried "B" and "D" ... and all this debate may have nothing to with the middle initial at all.

This nonsensical debate over B's identity has been distractive since you started it.

What's the title of this thread? happy.gif Let's all stop this non-sense! Is it "B"? Is it not "B"? Whatever! This is the end of that discussion. No more posts related to "B" will accepted.

 
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Anonymous
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Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

April 4 2012, 2:29 PM 

One must admit this thread makes more sense than most of the garbage on this site.

 
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B
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Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

April 4 2012, 10:44 PM 

It's interesting how people will claim that something disgusts them, yet they can't shake it, as if they really get their kicks and thrills by reading what supposedly turns them off. That's like women watching soap operas. They remark how shockingly scandalous and immoral the plots are, yet they wouldn't think of turning off the television, because they actually ENJOY that which they call GARBAGE.

 
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Anonymous
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Soap opera

April 5 2012, 12:50 PM 

We had a neighbor who always listened to General Hospital (years ago). The plot was that someone was going to murder one of the doctors. This fairy land was so real that the man tracked down the father of the actor who played the doctor and told him to warn his son that they were plotting to murder him.

Church has turned out be like General Hospital?

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

April 4 2012, 10:55 PM 

Now ... now ... now, Brian.

I hope you're insulting brethren from the Russian Federation only a very little bit. Today the number of views from Russia is about a third of that from the U.S.

Looks like you're as much of a participating viewer of this "garbage" as those from the R.F. The only difference is the complaint coming from you. Well, there's another difference -- the Russian brethren are eager to learn about God's truth at every opportunity. You and Dave must love the "garbage" of this "evil" site [per Dave Fields].

But at least we allow freedom of expression (excepting the expletives) here. Unlike the "ex-church of Christ" website that accepts only ex-church members and that rejects those who have not left the church. Have you thought about posting at that site? They love complaints and negative comments about the church.

You're just fine, Brian. So long as you log in and your name shows. There are times, though, that perhaps when you're in a hurry you do not log in or do not fill in your name, and the word "Anonymous" automatically displays. We have a name for "Anonymous" -- it's the name "Annie Mouse." We usually apply that to someone who posts and intentionally leaves out the name.

Finally, you must admit that you have learned more about God's truth from this website.

 
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Anonymous
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Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

April 5 2012, 2:12 PM 

God's truth doesn't exist on this website.What we've got are a couple of rednecks who can't admit that the fifties are long gone and who are willing to defy their own elders. That's a prime example of divisiveness.
The apostle Paul says this, "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy ; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise." 1Corinthians 3:16-18 The context is that of causing divisions in the church. Be it on your own head.

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: To all of the enemies of CM! :=0

April 5 2012, 10:33 PM 

Brian,

The change agents have invented the concept of "the church of Christ of the fifties." You learn well. From the change agents, i.e. But you must re-learn the truth that Christ established His church in the first century and that the church has existed since. That's the truth and fact that change agents now deny and reject. I'm afraid that you are following that path.

Division in the church? Generously give credit, Brian, to your beloved change agents. This website will remain steadfast in warning congregations to beware: "The Change Agents Are Coming; the Change Agents Are Coming" ... to your community. Their goal is to subvert, divert, pervert, divide, acquire, and transform the church of Christ Jesus.

You and others are the ones who make that distinction pertaining to "the church of the fifties." That's truly sad and unfortunate. The Lord's kingdom lives forever, and it does not change regardless of time (the 1st century, the rise of Roman Catholicism and the papacy, the Dark Ages, the Reformation Movement, the World Wars, the Charismatic Movement, the Change Movement, etc.).

Your assertion that "God's truth doesn't exist on this website" is quite remarkable. The problem is that Brian Cade is shunning from his responsibility to teach God's truth on this website. Teach God's truth on this website, Brian, as there are eager learners out there. It is your turn; don't miss this opportunity.

 
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Ken Sublett
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I think he is a dangerous alien

April 5 2012, 10:48 PM 

Isa 59:4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth:
.....they trust in vanity, and speak lies;
.....they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

Isa 59:5 They hatch cockatrice eggs, and weave the spiders web:
.....he that eateth of their eggs dieth,
.....and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.

For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed,
and hath been tamed of mankind: James 3:7
James 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

Isa 59:6 Their webs shall not become garments,
.....neither shall they cover themselves with their works:
.....their works are works of iniquity,
.....and the act of violence is in their hands.

Isa 59:7 Their feet run to evil, and
.....they make haste to shed innocent blood:
.....their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity;
.....wasting and destruction are in their paths.

Isa 59:8 The way of peace they know not;
.....and there is no judgment in their goings:
.....they have made them crooked paths;
.....whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.


    
This message has been edited by Ken.Sublett from IP address 174.252.144.6 on Apr 5, 2012 10:49 PM


 
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Tom Brite
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Re: I think he is a dangerous alien

April 6 2012, 7:14 AM 

Donnie, the concept of the "Church of Christ of the 50's" does exist on this site. How many times have you yourself said something to the effect of following WWII, the Churches of Christ were the fastest growing religious group in the US. That study in Time magazine that led to that title was done in the 50's. Of course, you will find that congregations which adhere to those stances of the 50's are no longer growing and are, in fact, shrinking. So, to call for a return to the time when we were the "fastest growing religious group" in America is being done all across the US, only not with the same results. The Church of the 50's met the needs of those new families starting out after WWII. It met them where they were. Those congregations which today you will see growing are those congregations that do the same thing, meet the needs of the modern families and do things which are attractive to the times in which we live.

 
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B
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Re: I think he is a dangerous alien

April 6 2012, 10:18 AM 

Congregations are more likely to "grow" today if their operation is "attractive" and pleasing to their members. That's just common sense. However, meeting the "felt needs" of modern families and doing things that are "attractive" to the times in which we live are no guarantees that such congregations are operating according to Biblical standards. If those congregations are really bent on making themselves "attractive" to the masses, they run the high and dangerous risk of operating according to the world's standards.

 
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