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Re: Did Jesus Violate the Law and attend the Babylonian pseudo-passover? Part TWO

May 18 2012, 2:25 AM 

The Jewish Passover was conspired during or following the Babylonian Captivity where they ADDED four cups of wine with no authority. Jesus DID NOT participate but REPUDIATED all of the Babylonian practices of the Jews.

BCV for this? I daresay you can't find it.

 
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Re: Did Jesus Violate the Law and attend the Babylonian pseudo-passover? Part TWO

May 18 2012, 8:49 AM 

Ken, what is your reference source for your implication that the Jews corrupted the Passover during the Babylonian captivity by adding wine without divine authority?

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Did Jesus Violate the Law and attend the Babylonian pseudo-passover? Part TWO

May 18 2012, 12:04 PM 

I'm a bit slow these days: Here is the source Maxey quoted only in part and is a good summary from the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia

http://www.internationalstandardbible.com/P/passover.html

Judas had this Judas Bag with him at the institution of the Lord's Supper: he had the bag because he was a THIEF in the same way that religious musicians were called PARASITES performing as Soothsayer and Sorcerers. It is never seen detached from the flute case and was a mark of the WORLD or Kosmos form whom Jesus refused to even pray.

The Fifth cup was a sign to the Jews that Messiah had come and been announced by John: this was always unfermented. This would be the time when the hymn or hallel would be psalm 137 signaling "we have hung up our harps."

Maxey makes Jesus a lawbreaker so that he can break the law and add instruments. However, when Jesus fed Judas the SOP this was to fulfil the prophecy in Psalm 41 that Judas would try to TRIUMPH OVER his familiar friend--Jesus.

The word SOP has the same root meaning as PSALLO. And fittingly the Judas Bag was that of a thief: it was not a purse but a bag for carrying the mouthpieces of wind instruments and always attached to a flute case of the perverted, drunk on wine male performers. The BAG has only one meaning and it is often pictured on Greek vases. It is the little "box" attached to the spotted flute case which marked an Egyptian influence


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This is the "group mind persona" which makes even those conditioned to the decent organ or piano FLEE without totally understanding the identifying MARK always attached especially to males singing and playing at the same time. When this happens in your "holy place" you are witnessing something so vile that it would only be tolerated in the male symposium and NEVER permitted in polite Greek or Hebrew society. This was also the MARK when Jesus called the MEN of Jerusalem CHILDREN blowing their pipes to INDUCE the dancing and singing (lamenting) of the ouchy cries of those being initiated into the wineskin sexual perversion: Jesus refused to BOW DOWN and consigned them to the marketplace along with all of the other merchandise including the pagan music-driven temples. Only male prostitutes could perform in the Agora or marketplace because they were marks of the pagan temples.

This "triumph over" word outlawed "vocal or instrumental rejoicing" and excluded any elevated form of speech. That was the PATTERN for the synagogue or Church of Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness and that was never changed. It would also be left as a mark that the dogs or concision had been permitted (contrary to Phil 3) into the "worship IN the SPIRIT as opposed to IN THE FLESH."

 
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Re: Did Jesus Violate the Law and attend the Babylonian pseudo-passover? Part TWO

May 18 2012, 9:25 AM 

Here's a link to an interesting article entitled "Wine or Grape Juice for Passover?" from Yahweh's Restoration Ministry:

http://www.yrm.org/wine_or_grape_juice.htm

 
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Ken Sublett
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Maxey Promoting Scribes and Pharisees Part Three

May 18 2012, 12:53 PM 

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