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What god was worshipped by the Jews and Progressives? Part ONE

May 18 2012 at 6:40 PM
Ken Sublett  (Login Ken.Sublett)
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If you can read Acts 7 supported by Christ in many of the Psalms and prophets you will understand that God DID NOT command the Monarchy consisting of Civil-Military-Clergy, the temple, the sacrificial system or the Levite Exorcistists as God's provision to prevent any godly person from even being inside the gates. The SKIA or Shadow defines a "totally erroneous system" and Christ says that they had a Covenant with Death and Hell

http://www.piney.com/Acts.7.Temple.Not.Commanded.html

And yet, all of the Progressives infiltrating and confiscating the church house of widows are modern day Scribes and Pharisees: Jesus called them Hypocrites and Christ in Ezekiel 33 named performance speakers, singers and talented instrument players.

I don't know a single church father who did not know the difference in the Old testament between:

1. God gave Israel The Book of The Covenant at Mount Sinai but the people refused to listen to God without a mediator (preacher, priest, musician).

2. This Covenant was the only spiritual Covenant made by God in Christ with Abraham and those who walked by His faith.

3. God turned the nation over to worship the starry host: I know of no modern preacher or scholar who can read Acts 7 who repeats the message of Christ in the prophets.

4. Therefore, whatever they claimed about their "gods" the Jews worshipped the starry host and to some extent serpents.

5. The Book of The Law was to regulate the people and provided ceremonial purity to save them in a physical sense: It had no saving power.

6. Christ the Rock provided the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness as a School (only) of the Word (only) delivered by Moses and the elders to the smaller groups.

7. The Civil-Military-Clergy complex "profaned" the Sabbath with no effect because God had already abandoned them.

8. The Levites Stood In Ranks to make certain that no godly person ever came near the sacrificial system which Christ says 'God never commanded.'

10. They performed as Soothsayers and/or Sorcerers: they never-musical performance was called EXORCISM and never "worship."

9. The acts of the Monarchy recorded by the Scribes is, according to the Prophets, tainted with lies especially about the Temple and their blasphemy in teaching that God could be fed, clothed, housed and sexually served by hierodules.

10. The Church of Christ is built upon the Prophets (by the Spirit OF Chrixt) and the prophecies made more certain by Jesus and recorded by the Apostles under inspiration.

11. And yet in most of the world's pulpit it is taught at the Sacrificial system including "music" was God's APPROVED PATTERN and that the LAW has not been changed. No public proclaimer who believes that and builds things like getting drunk at Passove should not be allowed out without a leash: they are a prophetic fulfilment.

EASTER OR THE JEWISH PASSOVER

"Asherah (symbolized by errect poles [Jachin and Boaz] with fertility symbols pouring out the top): She is the Queen of Heaven, in other languages and ages identified as Ashtoreth, Athirat, Astarte, and Ishtar. Yahweh, the Hebrew God elevated to become the sole deity , was Her consort.

Her "male" priestesses were known as kelabim, the faithful "dogs" of the Goddess,

who practiced divinatory arts,
danced in processions,

and served as hierodules, qedeshim,
in the company of other priestesses.

Elements of the goddess worship were largely erased in a cultural purge c. 630 BCE by King Yosiah, at the behest of Yahweh's priests, who required supremacy.


This is the message of Paul denying access by the dogs or concision and warning about women WAVING unholy harms which has to be moderated to prevent WRATH or an ORGY breaking out.

Ezekiel Eight defines a "sun rise service" where the Jews bowed down to the sun in the east. This meant that they had to turn their backs on the temple which they later rejected. At the same time the Women (always) were Lamenting for Tammuz inside of the temple. This is perhaps a God-provided "way of escape" when they same people are happy to define Jesus as a "wine drinker and a party kind of guy."

http://www.piney.com/MuTammuz.html

The Jews rarely celebrated the Biblical Passover which was to remind them of slavery. The adoption of the Babylon festival as the pattern for their "passover" with the cups of intoxicants was rather to celebrate their LIBERTY.



 
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Anonymous
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Re: What god was worshipped by the Jews and Progressives? Part ONE

May 18 2012, 7:45 PM 

Still working on rewriting the Bible, I see...How's that working for you? Any converts yet?

 
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Ken Sublett
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What gods were worshipped by the Jews: Part Two

May 19 2012, 12:15 PM 

It seems impossible for the age of self-speak, which gives God in Christ no right to speak, to grasp the story line of the Bible. Paul spoke of the "many" who were interested in Vocational Christianism and promised that they would be delusional. Jesus said that He would not pray for the "world" as the patternism for Christianism and God would HIDE Himself from the wise. Neither of these as brands of paganism can worship a Spirit God in the human spirit ONLY. That is because they substitute all of the fleshley impulses supposed to have been sacrificed or "burned up" on the altar. Reasonable or rational is Word-Centered and is the ANTITHESIS of the Jewish and other pagan worship which sought avenues to God other than through His Word

http://www.piney.com/Romans.12.Reasonable.Worship.Word.Opposite.Music.html

The kingdom of God does not come with observation: this means "religious observations" or services. This gives a Disciple the power to escape the captivity of everything connected with the Jewish Religion and hear the Spirit of Christ ONLY in the Prophets and Apostles.

If it is not possible to discern from reading Scripture the difference between the Sacrificial System and the Spiritual worship in the Qahal, synagogue or Church of Christ in the wilderness, we note that no early historical scholar before denominational divisions failed to understand. Even Secular Scholars understood that God abandoned the God-denying Jews to worship the Starry Host, and would laugh at anyone so evil as to try to impose any part of the "covenant with death and hell" system on believers.

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/p/plutarch/symposiacs/chapter4.html

QUESTION VI.
WHAT GOD IS WORSHIPPED BY THE JEWS.
SYMMACHUS, LAMPRIAS, MOERAGENES.

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Anonymous
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Re: What gods were worshipped by the Jews: Part Two

May 19 2012, 2:24 PM 

Great plot for movie but this has no basis in reality. This poor sod is delusional.

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: What gods were worshipped by the Jews: Part Two

May 19 2012, 3:21 PM 

Brian,

I have reviewed the source link:

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/p/plutarch/symposiacs/chapter4.html

... and, certainly, Ken quoted the exact black text on white [background]. Noteworthy is the last statement quoted: "The Jews themselves witness no less; for when they keep the Sabbath, they invite one another to drink till they are drunk; or if they chance to be hindered by some more weighty business, it is the fashion at least to taste the wine." [emph., d.c.]

I agree with you, Brian. The scene from http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au ... along with Al Maxey's acceptance of "the Four Cups of Wine" and rejection of the "Law of Silence" would make a great plot for a movie to illustrate and simplify it all for the liberal/progressive mindset.

 
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Anonymous
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Re: What gods were worshipped by the Jews: Part Two

May 19 2012, 6:38 PM 

There is no law of silence.That is a man-made construct, a tradition never given by God.Book, chapter and verse if you disagree.

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: What gods were worshipped by the Jews: Part Two

May 19 2012, 10:38 PM 

The "law of silence" is a principle, stupid. Of, course, no, you would not equate that principle with the law of Moses or the law of Christ. It is a "prove-it-with-Scripture" principle.

Just as C.E.N.I. is a "prove-it-with-Scripture" principle. A man-made doctrine will fail against C.E.N.I. because such a doctrine cannot be verified unless, in the New Testament, there is a C[ommand] or an E[xample] or a N[ecessary] I[nference] for it.

A possibility of a man-made doctrine passing the PROVE-IT test is if C.E.N.I were changed to C.E.N.I.O. by adding "or an O[pinion]" to it. In this case, Al Maxey can freely express his OPINION (e.g., "instrumental music" or "four cups of wine") as truth. Unfortunately, for Maxey, he has a restraining order from the Holy Scripture.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Plutarch What God Part Three

May 19 2012, 4:52 PM 

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If ALL recorded history cannot prove to you that the Jewish Monarchy had been abandoned to worship the starry host (Acts 7), and that God had never commanded any one to make animal sacrifices. When God Tested Abraham Mount Moriah meant that GOD HAS PROVIDED. That did not prevent Solomon from building a temple (altho there is not a shard of pottery to prove that it ever existed and Christ warned about the 'lying pen of the Scribes' writing about the temple. That does not prevent their Spiritual Descendants from trying to prove that God APPROVED of the sacrificial system WITH instruments and "that is a command for us today."

Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel,
.....Amend your ways and your doings,
.....and I will cause you to dwell in this place. Jeremiah 7:3

Trust ye not in lying words, saying,
.....The temple of the Lord, The temple of the Lord,
.....The temple of the Lord, are these. Jeremiah 7:4

For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings;
.....if ye thoroughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour; Jeremiah 7:5

If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow,
.....and shed not innocent blood in this place,
.....neither walk after other gods to your hurt: Jeremiah 7:6

Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever. Jeremiah 7:7

Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit. Jeremiah 7:8

Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely,
.....and burn incense unto Baal,
.....and walk after other gods whom ye know not; Jeremiah 7:9

> For I spake NOT unto your fathers, nor commanded them
.....in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
.....concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: Jeremiah 7:22
> But this thing commanded I them, saying,
.....Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people:
.....and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you,
.....that it may be well unto you. Jeremiah 7:23
> But they HEARKENED NOT, nor inclined their ear,
.....but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart,
.....and went backward, and not forward. Jeremiah 7:24

I hope you do not call the Spirit OF Christ a liar.

 
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Re: Plutarch What God Part Three

May 19 2012, 6:34 PM 

No one is calling Christ a liar. They are, however, calling you a liar.

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: Plutarch What God Part Three

May 19 2012, 10:50 PM 

Careful there, Brian. When you say: "They are ... calling you a liar...." The word "they" is plural. "Brian," calling him a liar, is only one individual and is singular.

Brian, you are very capable of making a good argument--right or wrong. That's what this website's readers are looking for and waiting for ... from you. We know you can do much better than your one-liner remarks.

 
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Re: Plutarch What God Part Three

May 20 2012, 12:10 AM 

"Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few" - Ecclesiastes 5:2

I say all I need to; it doesn't have to be a book.

 
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Re: Plutarch What God Part Three

May 20 2012, 12:41 AM 

Correct -- it doesn't have to be a book. But call your opponent a liar in a debate -- and nothing else -- that will certainly declare you the winner, isn't this what you meant? Sounds like that's being "rash with thy mouth ... [and] hasty."

 
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Re: Plutarch What God Part Three

May 20 2012, 7:34 AM 

Statements such as "You're a liar" and "You're wrong" and "You don't know what you're talking about" are some of the weakest "arguments" in a debate. In fact, they are not even arguments at all but statements of frustration and desperation that grasp at the air. Brian said he doesn't need to write a "book." Very well then, make it a "short story."

 
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Re: What god was worshipped by the Jews and Progressives? Part ONE

May 21 2012, 9:23 AM 

"Brian, you are very capable of making a good argument--right or wrong. That's what this website's readers are looking for and waiting for ... from you. We know you can do much better than your one-liner remarks."
"But call your opponent a liar in a debate -- and nothing else -- that will certainly declare you the winner, isn't this what you meant? Sounds like that's being "rash with thy mouth ... [and] hasty.""

"The "law of silence" is a principle, STUPID. Of, course, no, you would not equate that principle with the law of Moses or the law of Christ. It is a "prove-it-with-Scripture" principle."

Certainly, calling someone stupid is much, much better than calling someone a liar, don't you think? Calling someone stupid isn't being rash....nor hasty, is it? It is merely speaking the truth, right, and for love's sake, right?
Al Maxey has a restraining order from the Holy Spirit, but Mr. Cruz doesn't......I understand completely.

 
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Ken Sublett
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NO Silence: therefore NO Law part ONE

May 21 2012, 2:15 PM 

Al Maxey doesn't even know the NAME of The Holy Spirit. Al etal are the only ones USING The Law of Silence which the Disciples INVENTED because God hath not said, "Thou thalt NOT use machines for doing hard work and silences the lambs" so WE gonna impose instruments and WE gonna sow discord cause WE hear the Holy Spirit telling us to lie TO God and ABOUT God so we have boyling performers to THUS over."

The LAW is "How to MARK and AVOID" those OF the World and therefore NOT the LOST spirits God sent Jesus to just PRESENT THE SIGN and His Lambs would follow Him.

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Re: What god was worshipped by the Jews and Progressives? Part ONE

May 21 2012, 5:29 PM 

I guess Brian doesn't remember calling Ken a "lunatic." Calling someone a lunatic isn't being rash or hasty, is it? It is merely speaking the truth, right, and for love's sake, right?

 
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"Law of Silence" = "Prove It with Scripture, Stupid"

May 22 2012, 4:31 AM 

Someone was offended when I made this remark to Brian: The "law of silence" is a principle, stupid.... It is a "prove-it-with-Scripture" principle.

Let me explain: Sorry, but I simply like the expression when ", stupid" is appended to the specific subject or topic, whether it's about the economy or about a complete disregard for the silence of Scripture.

Here are examples:

"It's the economy, stupid" was a phrase in American politics widely used during Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign against George Bush.

-------------------------------

"Four years ago, Barack Obama dazzled us in front of Greek columns with sweeping promises of hope and change," Romney said. But after we came down to earth, after all the celebration and the parades, what do we have to show for three and a half years of President Obama?

"It's still about the economy, and we're not stupid," he said, invoking an old phrase "It's the economy, stupid" used to discuss Bill Clinton's successful 1992 challenge of President George H.W. Bush.

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[emphases mine, d.c.]



 
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Ken Sublett
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NO Silence: therefore NO LAW Part Two

May 21 2012, 11:13 PM 

People making a LIVING debunking Christ's right to command, example and even hint to those OF TRUTH or OF FAITH. They go further and demand salvation by "faith only" is legalism and therefore one does not HAVE to Obey God even though Jesus of Nazareth was not owned as a son until He had obeyed the role of baptism defined in Isaiah and Malachi. They WILL NOT respond because they have to know that they are Angels of Blight and have to wriggle away and curse others. Briann who is pulling the nuts out of the fire for his mentor also called me a "f..... lunatic." That's why you know that these people are dangerous BEASTS defined and marked in Revelation as "A new style of music or drama."

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Re: What god was worshipped by the Jews and Progressives? Part ONE

May 22 2012, 8:49 AM 

"The "law of silence" is a principle, stupid." .....is derogatory in nature. Stupid, in this sentence, and with explained English grammar and function, is referring to a person, and not subject matter....regardless of explanation and intent.

 
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Re: What god was worshipped by the Jews and Progressives? Part ONE

May 22 2012, 2:17 PM 

Quoted was this...."Certainly, calling someone stupid is much, much better than calling someone a liar, don't you think? Calling someone stupid isn't being rash....nor hasty, is it? It is merely speaking the truth, right, and for love's sake, right?
Then we have the response by B of "I guess Brian doesn't remember calling Ken a "lunatic." Calling someone a lunatic isn't being rash or hasty, is it? It is merely speaking the truth, right, and for love's sake, right?"

Forget the problem with someone calling another stupid. The problem that lies here is much deeper.....

 
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