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BIBLE STUDY TOPICS ONLY (Calvinism, etc.): feel free to respond

June 13 2012 at 1:32 AM
Ken Sublett  (Login Donnie.Cruz)
ConcernedMembersMadison
from IP address 99.177.249.211

Continued from: "What Happened at Madison This Week -- VII"
January 16 2004 at 11:19 AM

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Calvinism seems to be a confusion on people who do not search the Scriptures rather than pick out proof texts: This old linke shows up on page 2 of Google and warned us of the problem.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/150389/message/1078487029/Bible+Class+materials+derived+from+denominational+sources

The latest adult curriculum features James Wood on Ephesians and Predestination: while the creed of the publisher is not clear it is enough to convey the idea that God is in charge and has a plan all laid out for you.

http://www.piney.com/21st.Century.Christian.James.Wood.Predestination.html

Those God foreknew were the Jews whom God had known before: He purposed that a tiny remnant which had not bowed to Baal would be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ and gladly accept the Gentiles.

God prepurposed only that samll remnant and did not force any of them to "call back" when He invited them through the Gospel.

John 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Until Evangelists fail, the purpose was to go into all the world and call the name of God over them by preaching the gospel. Once people had made their choice the preacher shakes the dust off in respect to people like the pharisees who rejected the PREcounsel of God by not being baptized.

John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God.
Every man therefore
that hath heard,
and hath learned of the Father,
cometh unto me.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.




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Michael J. Fuchs
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unity

June 13 2012, 1:55 AM 

Michael J. Fuchs
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99.30.128.217
July 24 2011, 4:41 PM

The Church of Christ is unified! Can two walk together except they be agreed! The Word of God does unify those who accept it but it also separates The Believers from those who would pervert God's Word. There is peace in an assembly of Christian's but there is warfare and struggle with those who would change the truth of God into a LIE! Never blame the faithful for division! Put the blame where it belongs on those anti-Christs who try to infiltrate the Church that Christ built.
Be Strong in the Faith and quit you like men!
In Christian Love and Prayers!

 
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Ken Sublett
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James Wood on Ephesians and Predestination

June 13 2012, 2:07 AM 

Ken Sublett
(Login Ken.Sublett)
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July 24 2011, 5:02 PM

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The latest adult curriculum features James Wood on Ephesians and Predestination: while the creed of the publisher is not clear it is enough to convey the idea that God is in charge and has a plan all laid out for you.

http://www.piney.com/21st.Century.Christian.James.Wood.Predestination.html

Those God foreknew were the Jews whom God had known before: He purposed that a tiny remnant which had not bowed to Baal would be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ and gladly accept the Gentiles.

God prepurposed only that samll remnant and did not force any of them to "call back" when He invited them through the Gospel.

John 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Until Evangelists fail, the purpose was to go into all the world and call the name of God over them by preaching the gospel. Once people had made their choice the preacher shakes the dust off in respect to people like the pharisees who rejected the PREcounsel of God by not being baptized.

John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God.
Every man therefore
that hath heard,
and hath learned of the Father,
cometh unto me.

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

 
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Re: James Wood on Ephesians and Predestination

June 13 2012, 2:41 AM 

What, are you posting as Ken now?

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: James Wood on Ephesians and Predestination

June 13 2012, 4:52 AM 

Brian,

There's nothing for you to worry about. I was in the process of restoring the thread "What Happened at Madison This Week -- VII" [see Index #11, July 13, 2004], when I discovered that the above posts should have been a separate thread on Calvinism.

Am I posting as Ken now? You asked. No, Brian, I was saving his message. Wasn't it obvious that Ken's name did not disappear?

 
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