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Was [Dave ... Still Dave]
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A Good Friend of Mine

July 5 2012, 9:48 PM 

William said "On the other hand, since God explicitly addresses and specifies the KIND of music we are to use, which is VOCAL MUSIC, then we are NOT to go beyond that."

There isn't a delineation between whether there is a VOCAL music or an INSTRUMENTAL music. All an instrument does is to ACCOMPANY the voice. There is no "KIND of music"....period. We are to sing, whether that is unison, 16 part harmony, or employing the aid of an instrument to accompany the voice. The instrument is NOT a different kind of ACCOMPANY....because that is what it does. That is what a legalist does best....they look for an angle outside the Word of God to make an invalid point.


Will continue to edit the author's name. "Was" Dave Fields ... is still Dave Fields -- same style of writing, same false teaching.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: A Good Friend of Mine

July 5 2012, 11:08 PM 

The Greek MUSIC, never used in the assembly, demands moving the voice AND the body in sync: Music often includes DANCING.

The word symphonia was used by the Greeks in reference to notes sounding together in harmony and by extension meant an ensemble or band rather than a musical form. The word implies a pleasant concord of different notes and has been used in fields other than music to denote a pleasing combination of various elements. In the New Testament Gospel According to Luke (King James Version), symphonia is translated as musick, as distinct from choroi, dancing.

Much, much too late:

In the Middle Ages the name was given to several musical instruments, among them a double-headed drum, bowed stringed instruments, a large hurdy-gurdy, and bagpipes. Mention is made in 1582 of eine Symphonie, evidently a stringed keyboard instrument.

sumphôn-os , on,

2. as musical term, in concord or unison with
sumphônon kai homologon [let us speak the same thing]

From Greek mousike (techne) the art of the Muses [Under Apollo, Apollyon] The music of the Greeks did not signify merely the harmony of sounds, but actually imbodied the idea of inner harmony of the spirit, the becoming at one with the spirit of the Muses, so that the soul responded in harmonic rhythm to the beat of universal harmony. Music with the Greeks, therefore, included, besides vocal and instrumental music, choral dancing, rhythmic motions, and various modes of harmony expressed in action.

Music, in all its various branches is represented as having been taught to man by his divine and divine-human ancestors [Demons, Lucifer in the Bible], such as Isis-Osiris, Thoth, Edris (in the Koran), etc. It is one of the elements of the power known as mantrikasakti. Music was represented as one of four divisions of mathematics, the others being arithmetic, astronomy, and geometry.



Plato declared that rhythmic and melodic complexities were to be avoided because they led to depression and disorder. Music echoes divine harmony; rhythm and melody imitate the movements of heavenly bodies, thus delineating the music of the spheres and reflecting the moral order of the universe. Earthly music, however, is suspect; Plato distrusted its emotional power

An extremely archaic teaching repeated by Pythagoras, who travelled in Babylonia, and therefore in the West commonly associated with his doctrine, for he taught that the world had been called forth out of Chaos by sound or harmony, and that the universe is constructed on harmonic proportions. He further taught that the planets were arranged in relation to each other and to the Sun in the progression of a musical scale

This is the KOSMOS or world for which Jesus will not even pray.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: A Good Friend of Mine

July 5 2012, 11:13 PM 

The original Babylon mother of harlots: worshipped by the women IN the Temple (Ezekiel 8)

"In the name of my power! In the name of my holy shrine!

To my daughter Inanna I shall give Truth!

Descent into the underworld!

Ascent from the underworld!

The art of lovemaking!

The art of kissing the phallus!"

He gave me the holy shrine.

He gave me the holy priestess of heaven.

He gave me the resounding musical instrument.

He gave me the art of song.

He gave me the art of the elder.

He gave me the kurgurra.

The kurgarru, the assinu, and the kulu'u performed plays, music, dances, and games (rising up to play) during rituals. These were musical worship teams in addition to the eldership stolen from the "god."

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Donnie Cruz
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Re: Was A Bullfrog

July 5 2012, 11:24 PM 

To Jeremiah, the bullfrog:

Dave, we have located you; you are kilometers or miles away from Clemson, SC.

== ==
00 00 Clemson, SC, US
07 04 Central, SC, US
09 05 La France, SC, US
09 05 Newry, SC, US
10 06 Pendleton, SC, US
11 06 Norris, SC, US
11 06 Sandy Springs, SC, US
11 06 Seneca, SC, US
16 10 Liberty, SC, US
17 10 Six Mile, SC, US
17 10 Richland, SC, US
17 10 Townville, SC, US
. . . etc.

You have a choice:

(1) Be brave and unashamed as "Dave" or "Dave Fields"; or
(2) Choose one of the following: "little b" ... "Middle C" ... "Jeremiah" ... "Was" ... "the bullfrog" ... and be that author consistently; or
(3) Do not post.

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Re: Was A Bullfrog

July 6 2012, 12:24 AM 

If Dave doesn't want to use his name anymore, a "modified" form of his username from the old FaithSite would be most suitable: ServantNOTforHim.

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Jimmy Crack Corn
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And He Don't Care

July 6 2012, 12:37 AM 

Donnie, you are more than welcome to label me as a false only makes sense.

0 Hendersonville, TN, US
5 Old Hickory, TN, US
6 Goodlettsville, TN, US
6 Madison, TN, US
9 Hermitage, TN, US
10 Gallatin, TN, US
10 Ridgetop, TN, US
10 White House, TN, US
11 Cottontown, TN, US
12 Whites Creek, TN, US
12 Mount Juliet, TN, US
12 Greenbrier, TN, US
15 Nashville, TN, US
16 Cross Plains, TN, US
16 Castalian Springs, TN, US
16 Joelton, TN, US
18 Gladeville, TN, US
Only 15 miles from your place of work...not bad
This is actually a better conversation. You can handle this....this is down your alley.

Can I choose D.....I post until you boot me?

Donnie, the reason that you don't give me the boot is because I have shown you the Truth time and time again....and it infuriates you to no end.


You've been caught in the act. This will be your last time as "Jimmy Crack Corn." Or, as another/a new name.

You may choose "D" (or whatever) -- that is not the problem; but Dave having 12 faces when posting is unbecoming a church leader.

Dave, by New Testament standards, you haven't shown us the truth. Neither have the change agents who have mentored you. We welcome your participation only for the sake of discussing the truth.

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john watson smith
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Love the truth

July 6 2012, 5:17 AM 

I am reminded of a sobering truth in the scriptures......if we don't have a love of the truth God will send a strong delusion to us.

When I see persons trying to make light of the discussions here I am reminded of the attitude of today that certain persons are enlightened and advanced beyond the old and outdated "king James mindsets that have restricted and choked true religion"

Consider that God is described as a consuming fire and that to be brought before him in judgement is a fearful thing. Fear God and keep his commandments for this is the whole duty of mankind!

Comments Welcome!

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July 8 2012, 2:12 AM 


Our discussion of user/login names is over.

Try posting messages conducive to learning God's truth -- they will certainly be published.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: Dave

July 8 2012, 10:35 AM 

Thank you! Thank you very much.

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