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Ken Sublett
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Re: Winterfest We know the meaning of THE BEAST-SERPENT

February 8 2013, 4:08 PM 

It is important to know that God gave Israel The Book of the Covenant of Grace: this was the Abrahamic Covenant as the only spiritual covenant.

It was after some rose up to PLAY in musical idolatry of the Egyptian trinity under the image of the golden calveS that the tablets were broken and never restated as the preamble for a covenant of Grace. God abandoned them to worship the starry host, gave them THE book of the Law and sentenced toen to captivity and death beyond Babylon. Moses said that they were blind and deaf and would not be able to HEAR or READ the Word until ANOTHER PROPHET LIKE ME came.

God abandoned the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Tribe of Levi but Christ in spirit defined the Qahal, synagogue, ekklesia or Church of Christ (the Rock) for the godly people. This restricted them to local small groups READING and REHEARSING the Word of God especially the Testament of Book of The Covenant.

The Spirit OF Christ inspired the prophets who repudiated the Davidic Covenant which was not built upon the Law of Moses.

The promised another prophet like Moses was to be the Messiah and to make these prophecies more certain. The TWO WITNESSES upon which the Church is built or educated is the Prophets and apostles.

After the FALL of the Levite tribe Moses also warned that we should not associate with them but wait for Shiloh.

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Paul LEAPFROGS the Monarchy and shows the meaning of the only spiritual Covenant which God in Christ made with Abraham.

A Church of Christ, therefore, which appeals to the Levitical Soothsayers to impose "musical worship ministers" have Judaized and fallen from Grace which gives us REST FROM the laded burdens (arousal songs, taxes) and the burden laders.

 
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Re: Winterfest

February 8 2013, 9:59 PM 

It gets really interesting to note that the Ark of the Covenant, contained in the Holy of Holies or Most Holy Place, was absent in the new temple that was built by some of those who returned from Exile, as described by Ezra and Nehemiah. Contained inside the Ark was the Tablet of Stones (possibly Ten Commandments) and according to Hebrew 9:4, also Aaron's rod and the manna from heaven. An elevated floor in the Most Holy Place was a recognition of the missing Ark. Above the Ark in the original temple stood the cherubim with wings, suggesting the abiding presence and protection of God.

Figuratively, the law of God was removed from the exiles as a result of repeated disobediences that ended in the captivity and humiliation activated by Nebuchadnezzar. In terms of the grand scheme of God that "law" was reinstituted as one of the "heart," by which people would believe in the age of Jesus Christ. The destruction of the first temple in 586 BC and of the second (third) temple in 70 AD, doubly affirmed that God does not dwell in temples made with hands, and so provides a definite end to temple theology--that the kingdom of God is expressed in the military conquest of geography, but in a people who believe, know, and trust God. Also the ten commandments engraved in stones, disappeared with the destruction of the first temple, and this left room for the prophecy of the time to come in which the law would be in their "heart."

Some suggest that since faith did not indwell the Israelites as it did Abraham (Gen. 15:6; Romans 4:3), those who believed God were "counted" righteous. Jesus said that "hardness of heart" led to various commands in the law, in that the Israelites did not "know" God and he was not in their "heart." As such Moses' Law was to discipline the people such that they would not totally destruct. This discipline maintained the Israelite nation and people so that the redeemer could come in due season. In this way the Abrahamic covenant is definitely a precursor for the covenant of Christ through grace and not by law.

The book of Hebrews talks about these matters. "Believing" in God is a step below "knowing" God. "Believing" is evidence of something more remote, "knowing" is a more intimate relationship with God. In the new covenant, mankind will "know" God, and this is through Jesus Christ who "reveals" Him to mankind (John 1:18). Mankind "believed" God, but Jesus "knew" God according the the Gospel of John.

As such, Abraham is the precursor of the revelation of God through Christ, in that it concerned belief with trust in God and not a covenant engraved in stone, as was the ten commandments. The Abrahamic covenant was given in Genesis 12:1-3. A covenant usually is expressed as "if you will do this, then I will do this" if it is duplex. A uniplex covenant is one in which God promises that "I will do this" and so is "unconditional" in that the insurer does not require an action from the insured. One could describe the new covenant as duplex in that God today says "with your believing in the heart, I will save you." It is also uniplex in that "belief" and "knowledge" in the heart is simultaneous with His "saving" us today. None of these statements in any way diminishes the importance of God's plan of salvation.

 
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Re: Winterfest

February 8 2013, 10:23 PM 

The Book of The Covenant which God gave before the Law and to which the people would not listen directly was conditional laws. IF you make an altar then this is how you do it.

To think that a human can do anything other than be a disciple must presume that the religious or God operator can aide or contribute to the work of God. I really cringe when just about everyone thinks that God is a petty tyrant who must be appeased else He will hurt you.

The Jews missed before the rest of us.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Acts 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

That does not mean righteous like God but it means that people walk humbly with man and God. Only then can He be our Teacher: it is really hard to learn anything with our mouth open. I believe that the righteous Jews thought that silence is the highest form of worship. It certain solved my mental anxiety caused by "worship"

So, how many people do you know who understand what you just said?

 
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Re: Winterfest

February 8 2013, 11:59 PM 

In response to how many people understand what you just said....

Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 And he answered and said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that which he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables; because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And unto them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall in no wise understand; And seeing ye shall see, and shall in no wise perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, And their ears are dull of hearing, And their eyes they have closed; Lest haply they should perceive with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And should turn again, And I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see; and your ears, for they hear. 17 For verily I say unto you, that many prophets and righteous men desired to see the things which ye see, and saw them not; and to hear the things which ye hear, and heard them not. ASV

Those that want to or desire to understand will be able to. We must understand with our "heart." Otherwise, there is no hope, and the blessings of God pass one by. Having the truth of God, many have turned toward error.





 
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