Passover at Woodmont Hills John Mark Hicks IndexMarch 14 2013 at 12:28 PM
|Ken Sublett (Login Ken.Sublett)|
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John Mark Hicks has poured out a flood of literature trying to silence the Churches of Christ for which he is waged as "Bible Scholar" and major misleader at Woodmont.
These are descriptive links which I will or organize if there is still anyone alive out there.
Passover was to celebrate God's Grace in saving Israel from Egypt: it was rarely observed and would include ROAST LAMB and BITTER HERBDS.
Celebrating Passover is not covered in the Prophets which is Christ speaking to the spiritual people from the beginning. It is a SINFUL patternism because it repudiates the fact that the JEWS killed the Lamb of God.
Jesus Christ is OUR Passover and He died JUST ONCE and the Passover is a VIRTUAL slaughter of the Lamb of God.
Jesus met with the disciples for the LAST Passover which was NOT bread and wine but ROAST LAMB and no wine. Jesus REPUDIATED the Jewish Passover which was BABYLONIAN where everyone was forced to GET DRUNK.
It was AFTER the Passover that the Feast of Unleavened Bread was the time when Jesus instituted the Lord's Supper: He paid the price and NOT the blood of a Lamb.
Festival of Passover
Yeshuat Yisrael & Woodmont Hills
Celebrating the Festival of Passover
Sunday, March 24, 2013
Great Hall - 3710 Franklin Road
Rabbi Ken Gibbs and his congregation, Yeshuah Yisrael, will be at Woodmont Hills for a Messianic Passover Seder on Sunday, March 24. Rabbi Gibbs and his congregation are coordinating the event this year so you may purchase tickets on line at the link below or in the lobby at 3710 on Sundays, March 10 &17. All ticket sales will close on March 20 so get yours now!
Click HERE for tickets and more information
The LU people are IGNORANT that God turned Israel over to worship the Starry host because of musical Idolatry at Mount Sinai. This was a sin beyond redemption and God sentenced them to return to BEYOND BABYLON.
The Spirit OF Christ promised that the evil of Judaism would cease:
Hosea 2:11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.
DSS 4Q166 (4QpHosa) Dead Sea Scrolls, (Plus, pg. 276-7 Vermes)
(13)AND I SHALL PUT AN END TO ALL HER JOY, [HER] PIL[GRIMAGE,] HER [NEW] MOON, AND HER SABBATH, AND ALL HER FEASTS.
The interpretation of it is that they make [the fe]asts go according to the appointed times of the nation. And [all] [joy] has been turned for them into mourning.
"I will put an end to her rejoicing, her feasts, her new moons, her Sabbaths, and all her festivals (Hosea ii,11).
"Interpreted, this means that they have rejected the ruling of the law,
and have followed the festivals of the nations.
But their rejoicing shall come to an end and shall be changed into mourning.
I will ravage her vines and her fig trees, of which she said, 'They are my wage which my lovers have given me'. I wall make them a thicked and the will beasts shall eat them...ii, 12
But they, like Adam, have broken the Covenant (vi, 7)
Its interpretation... they have forsaken God and walked according to the decrees of the Gentiles....
Rabbi Ken Gibbs does not follow the Hebrew Text but the BABYLONIAN TALMUD. Messianic Jews are still Jews and believe that the New Testament must be interpreted according to the traditions of the elders.
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Re: Festival of Passover at Woodmont Hills
|March 14 2013, 6:28 PM |
bumped to add link to review.
Dean Barham is the new minister and approves folly of Woodmont
The Family of God at Woodmont Hills is a large Church of Christ located at 3710 Franklin Road in Nashville, TN. Rubel Shelly was the minister for Woodmont Hills for 25+ years. Dean Barham of Virginia is it's current minister. It is perhaps one of the more controversial Churches of Christ within that brotherhood due to its views on: instrumental music, women participation in worship, praise teams, clapping, raising of hands, grace orientation, views on Christian unity etc... that is not normally found in many Churches of Christ. However, Woodmont Hills is seen as "breath of fresh air" for those still in the Church of Christ but have a more "progressive" mindset.
Of course we Bible readers understand that GRACE takes the laded burden (music) and the burden laders off our backs.
Re: Festival of Passover at Woodmont Hills
|March 14 2013, 6:58 PM |
Whenever church of Christ congregations describe themselves as "progressive" and "a breath of fresh air," they are basically saying, "We are sick and tired of following the New Testament as written; it's time for us to 'broaden our horizens' and do as we please, do what WE want to do for a change."
Re: Festival of Passover at Woodmont Hills
|March 14 2013, 9:25 PM |
John Chrysostom Against the Jews
"I shall first demonstrate that even if they had not been deprived of their ancestral way of life, even so their fast would be polluted and impureand I shall provide the proofs from the Law itself, and from Moses.
For if it was lawless when it was observed while the Law was in effect and in power, so much the more now that the Law has ceased.
And I shall demonstrate that not only the fast, but also all the other practices which they observe sacrifices and purifications and festivals are all abominable. And when the very manner of purification is illegal as practiced, and would be rejected as loathsome, which of their other [rituals] can purify them thereafter?
"The best starting point for the demonstration will be their observance with regard to the place. For God led them out of the whole world and confined them in a single place, Jerusalem.
And in no other place were they permitted to fast, to sacrifice, to celebrate festivals or tabernacles, or indeed to read the Law, at the time when the Law was in force.
Luke 2:41 Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
John 2:13 And the Jews passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem,
John 2:23 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day,many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.
John 6:4 And the passover, a feast of the Jews, was nigh.
"And if back then, whenever these rites were conducted outside Jerusalem, the procedure constituted transgression, all the more so now. If you wish, I will read the laws that were set down for them concerning these matters.
"First, let me recite the law set down concerning the festival of Passover: "For you shall not be able to celebrate the Passover in any of the cities which the Lord your God gives you, but at the place which the Lord your God chooses for his name to be called [p. 34] there
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|March 14 2013, 10:31 PM |
Looks like they are really gone off the edge. I doubt that they will even try to explain this one away.
The influence and power of the Zionist lobby is indeed very powerful in the US.
Look at 2 John 7 - 12 for details on the "doctrine of Christ."
John Mark Hicks Amos 5
|March 15 2013, 1:03 PM |
John Mark Hicks (LU) does not use the TEXT but theology to decide that the Passover has just been updated into the Lord's Supper. However, he thinks that the Lord's Supper is where we JUBILATE while God eats the "fat" in the old testament false sense.
Being Consistent he writes on Amos 5 that the problems were just social injustice. Most scholars read the TEXT and see that their evil lives was caused by the way they ACTED OUT their worship with wine, women and instruments.
Re: Festival of Passover at Woodmont Hills
|March 15 2013, 6:42 PM |
I mailed this to the Woodmont preacher and the "worship minister." They will not respond of course.
You remember that Madison SENT their kiddies off to CANAAN LAND with music? There are lots of ways to consume the spirits of the little ones: here is the one the PATTERNIST copy when they add instruments.
The Spirit OF Christ in Isaiah 30 and Revelation uses this as the PATTERN they followed to Jerusalem (Sodom) to worship AND which will be the MARKS in sight and sound of God using wind, string and percussion instruments to drive His enemies into "hell" or Cast Alive into the Lake of Fire. That happens perhaps as they are consuming spirits with the BREATH OF THEIR OWN LIPS.
Notice that at the right is the ACU guy and the Zoe Group and the lady at LU who are lusting to LIGHT THE FIRES.
John Mark Hicks Women in the Assembly
|March 17 2013, 9:34 PM |
John Mark refutes the text in favor of "theology" and claims that Paul actually said that women HAVE authority to pray and prophesy in the assembly.
Because Hicks dogmatically says that women were GIVEN this authority the absolute forbidding it in 1 Cor 4 and Timothy MUST be interpreted so as not to conflict. Massive sowing of discord happens when once-Christian Bible colleges become schools of THEOLOGY: you know that because Jesus said that doctors of the law take away the key to knowledge. Paul outlaws both male and female from the musical prophesying which was called soothsaying (Miriam and the Levites) or Sorcery in the Prophets and most recorded literature.
Both female and the rare gender-confused male wore the head covering--not a hat but the garment of the pagan "prophesier" or prostitute where the Corinthians once worshipped Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon)where prophesying is the MADness Paul warned about. That was an out of your mind experience promoted by Hicks with the singing, clapping and playing instruments. The Muses (Revelation 18) were known as and proud to be dirty adulterers whom John called Sorcerers who would be (are?) to be cast Alive into the Lake of Fire.
This was the Same Dionysus the Jews had been turned over too BECAUSE of musical idolatry at Mount Sinai. Having abandoned the TEXT in favor of THEOLOGY not even the sharpest "doctor of the law" expresses any interest in what was going on in the pagan WORSHIP CENTERS.
Catherine-Dick Kroeger Pandemonium and Silence There are significant indications that the old pagan religion still exerted a powerful influence on the recent converts at Corinth. They were uncomfortable over meat that had been offered to idols (8:1-13), and they had to be reminded not to attend sacrificial meals in pagan temples (10:20, 21) As in Bacchic feasts, there was drunkenness at the Lord's Supper and ecstatic madness at the worship services. A surprising description comes from the pen of the neo-Platonist Iamblichus as he explains the mystery cults, the popular religions of the day, for Dionysus was not the only god who inspired frenzy:>
John Mark Hicks and ALL of those who have confiscated Church of Christ Schools are DEEPLY into trying to restore PROPHESYING WOMEN. I think (hope) that the time is right for it.
Doug Hurley Your Sons and Daughters Shall Prophesy.
John Mark Hicks Links
|March 19 2013, 5:44 PM |
John Mark Hicks along with probably most of the "scholars" at places like LU, ACU and Pepperdine are overtly hostile to Churches of Christ even though they willing work for which there is no role and dole without fleecing the widows. After all, Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites which in the Ezekiel 33 versions names self-preachers, singers and instrument playerss.
These people reject the TEXT as it is written and rest on THEOLOGY which means the opinions of those which constitute his audience for books.
Kingdom Come, Embracing the Spiritual Legacy of David Lipscomb and James Harding
Hicks and Bobby Valentine disassociate themselves from what they called the "ecclesial hermeneutic (command, example and inference)" of Harding and Lipscomb and their participation in the battles with the Disciples of Christ denomination over instrumental music and the missionary societies. They obviously dont see that such common-sense Biblical interpretation and the battles with those who were losing confidence in restoration, were integral parts of their other-worldliness.
Inevitably, there must be separations between those
who cling to primitivist principles
and those that reject them.
Division, though it must be avoided until there is no other recourse,
is sometimes necessary (1 Cor. 11:19).
Of course Hicks does not grasp that HERESIES mean those who "use mental arousal or spiritual anxiety (laded burden) to drive people into such anxiety that the false preacher can "Lift them up and take their inheritance for themselves." To that end, all of the CHANGELINGS are being used by the NACC knowing that they are sowing discord and NOT knowing that musical noise and ceremonies are the PRINCIPLE means of legalism under the Law of the Monarchy and all pagan worship centers.
Re: Passover at Woodmont Hills John Mark Hicks Index
|March 23 2013, 6:24 PM |
Keep your eyes and ears open in the morning and determine whether you see this pattern illustrated. This is one of many passages which proves that Christ has supplied us with all that pertains to life and godliness. That means that there are not STAFF roles capable of supplying anything out of their own experiences proving a dedication to the Word in the prophets and apostles upon which a church of Christ is built or educated.
|John watson smith|
Isaiah said it
|March 27 2013, 10:05 AM |
Consider that Isaiah 5 describes a woe on those who contradict the truth putting light for darkness and darkness for light. There is a learning process with the old testament passover but the Christian age requires us to remember the sacrifice of the only perfect offering for sin, infinitely superior to the passover which cannot take away sin. This whole thing of inviting the "observance of the passover" is just plain promotion of confusion and digression. If not why not?
|April 22 2013, 10:49 PM |
It's my understanding that the Nazi Holocaust created the phrase "Judeo-Christian", since Hitler had tried to isolate the Jewish people.
Now, in prayers, we hear "In God's name we pray. Amen." rather than "In Jesus' name we pray. Amen."