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network54 hacked

May 19 2013 at 6:50 PM
Ken Sublett  (Login KSublett)
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Network54 was massively hacked: isn't the quiet nice?

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Tom Brite
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Re: network54 hacked

May 21 2013, 7:25 AM 

So, was it the liberals or the conservatives?

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Ken Sublett
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Re: network54 hacked

May 21 2013, 10:47 AM 

EITHER side would be happy to clip our wings happy.gif

I think it was a network54 hack: they reset all of the passwords and Donnie figured out how to reset.

We still can't change the front page which we would be happy to do by request.

Mike Cope is now in charge at Pepperdine Lectureship: both Pepperdine and the NACC (Christian church) has the same subject (Revelation) and some of the same speakers. As usual they assume the Henry Blackaby authority to WRITE themselves in as a greater than Moses or even a greater than Jesus! After all IF Jesus had known ANYTHING about OUR culture then HE would have endorsed instrumental music instead of SENDING the evangelists OUT into all the world to teach that which Jesus COMMANDED to be taught. They are such superior people that they defacto DENY that Jesus told THEM what to do.

Be aware, Jodi is going to speak in a couple of hours so my life on the lawnmower (broke), Tractor or Recliner wont be a total waste.

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Re: network54 hacked

May 21 2013, 12:55 PM 

Well in the current national climate, This site could have been hacked by our trusted Dept of Justice.

Seems that not just our churchs are becoming a state of community for change, but every moral thread that holds this land together. Corrupt new community values are working to destroy all that is good. Yet we know God will prevail.

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Re: network54 hacked

May 21 2013, 1:50 PM 

Great point!!!

I'd say: Blame it on the liberal, progressive change agents operating in the brotherhood. LOL happy.gifhappy.gifhappy.gif They operate just like the liberal, progressive ideologists and officials of the U.S. government, stemming from the Executive branch. The "spy" out there might not even allow this message to be published.

The hacking actually originated from Southeast Asia.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: network54 hacked

May 21 2013, 3:38 PM 

We have noted that the serpent in the wilderness was not a snake: the root is "hissing" and that was derived from the discovery "bell metal" or brass: brass is filthy compared to gold. Even a casual reader of the Scriptures or contemporaneous literature--clay tablets 2000 years old when Moses was born, understood the emotional and spiritual damage that could be done with musical sounds: Phythagoras (Romans 14) understood that and Paul outlawed it in Romans 15.

Our own culture has been virtually destroyed by 24/7 music which can rewire the brain. The Greek classics would inform anyone that the sudden rise and victory of the homosexual element--boasting about taking over churches--that musical instruments was more addictive and seducing than any drug.

1 Maccabees 8:41 - All who heard the noise made by their multitude, by the marching of the multitude and the clanking of their arms, trembled, for the army was very large and strong.

"The thin, bronze percussion disks were affixed to metal handles; one from Pompeii is even garnished with pellet bells.

Small bronze bells, which made a clanging rather than ringing sound, warded off evil spirits, averted the evil eye, served as sentinels' and watchmen's signal instruments, or were attached to the handle of a Greek warrior's shield in order to terrify the enemy by their clamour.

Small bells were also frequently worn on anklets by jesters, dancers, and courtesans, particularly in Hellenistic times. In Rome, tintinnabulae ("bells") served as signal instruments or were suspended from the necks of herd animals--again to ward off evil.

With the exception of clappers, all these instruments were of bronze; as such they were credited with the apotropaic powers [apo- + trepein to turn] (the special protective powers against evil) accorded this metal in the East. For example, both in various Asian islands and in Greece, it was customary to sound the chalkos at eclipses of the Moon because it has power to purify and to drive off pollutions (a scholiast, writing on Theocritus). According to the Roman poet Ovid, the annual visit of ghosts of the dead to their former homes was terminated by requests to depart emphasized by the clanging of a bronze plate. The thin bronze percussion disks were affixed to metal handles; one from Pompeii is even garnished with pellet bells. Small bronze bells, which made a clanging rather than ringing sound, warded off evil spirits, averted the evil eye, served as sentinels and watchmens signal instruments, or were attached to the handle of a Greek warriors shield in order to terrify the enemy by their clamour. Small bells were also frequently worn on anklets by jesters, dancers, and courtesans, particularly in Hellenistic times. In Rome, tintinnabulae (bells) served as signal instruments or were suspended from the necks of herd animalsagain to ward off evil.

Deeply cupped cymbals, played together with a frame drum, were sounded in religious rites and at secular dances. Forked cymbals known as crotala traveled from Egypt to Greece and Rome, and finger cymbals were introduced from the East, chiefly for dancers, a pair being attached to the thumb and middle finger of each hand.

Among the oldest instruments, rattles originally combined the functions of prophylactic amulets and childrens toys, and both functions continued to coexist as late as Roman times.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: network54 hacked

May 21 2013, 4:16 PM 

Nothing made our old friend Jimmy more violent than my finding that MUSIC connection everywhere. Well, that's the way it is and it fits the PATTERN that the Scribes and Pharisees (hypocrites) meaning self-speakers. singers and instrument players, will never understand. We have collected at least 2 dozen Greek and Latin words which include the word PLAY or SMITE the string of a musical instrument: there is no excepton to the rule that ALL of them are derived from or connected to violently SMITING a person or animal. For instance the PSALLO word used as the FOUNDATION of the SMITERS AND PLUCKERS has the same root meaning as the word SOP. Well, Jesus said that the doctors of the law would not catch on. Musical sounds always create anxiety or panic: the false teachers SELL that FEAR as a holy spirit person stroking all of your pleasure centers: music produces both FIGHT and FLIGHT.

Per-cto , cussi, cussum, 3 (
I. perf. contr. percusti for percussisti, Hor. S. 2, 3, 273), v. a. quatio.
I. To strike through and through, to thrust or pierce through (syn.: percello, transfigo).
A. a vein is opened, blood is let,
B. Transf., to SLAY, kill ( to behead
II. (With the idea of the verb predominating.) To strike, beat, hit, smite, shoot, etc. (cf.: ico, pulso, ferio).
A. Lit.
1.had been struck, struck with lightning, stung, bitten, PERCVSSVS A VIPERA,
2. In partic.
b. To strike, PLAY a musical instrument (poet.): lyram, to get drunk,
B. Trop.
1. To smite, strike, visit with calamity of any kind (class.: anathemate. plaga,in stuporem,
2. To strike, shock, make an impression upon, affect deeply, move, percussisti me de oratione prolat,
3. To cheat, deceive, impose upon one to flatter,
4. To strike, stamp

The word ANATHEMA speaks of a thing or person who has been dedicated to the service of a god at a temple. The Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites were so dedicated as sacrificial instrument players and they HAD NO INHERITANCE.

A thing or person who has been dedicated to a "holy place" under the presumption that the person can ADORN the temple or CONTRIBUTE to its worth CANNOT be redeemed and must be BURNED. There are numerous passages which show that musical performers in religion are DECEIVERS and John calls them SORCERERS and says they "will be cast ALIVE into the lake of fire."

Sorry, but no one will find an exception.

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The Musical "Praise Team" Connection

May 21 2013, 5:20 PM 

For now I am speaking outside the realm of instrumental music (which consists of inanimate and lifeless musical devices) and its role in the assembly of NT saints.

I am speaking of another musical connection that involves real people who claim to be doing it "for the Lord." They might deny it, but inwardly they would like to be referred to as "God's elite singers or musicians"; they ordinarily call themselves God's "Praise Team" [definitely a carbon copy of the Baptist CHOIR or the Catholic CHOIR BOYS].

It's already a known fact among churches of Christ that a congregation that has adopted the "Praise Team" musical connection program to enhance "worship" is inevitably moving in the "right direction" toward the eventual implementation of instrumental music in the assembly.

Congregational singing, where the word of Christ is the MAIN focus in the "teaching and admonishing one another" process, is no longer good enough to the man-appointed "Worship Leader."

Are the services of the "Praise Team" necessary for the melody from the heart (of the regular, ordinary congregants) to be acceptable to our Father in heaven? Of course, NOT!!! In short, members of the "Praise Team" are MUSICAL PERFORMERS, unless and until they get rid of those handheld microphones, get off the stage, return to their seats and be among the congregants.

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Clanging Cymbals

May 21 2013, 5:42 PM 

I couldn't help but notice the words "clanging" and "cymbal" appearing numerous times in the very descriptive narrative above.

When put together, it would be "clanging cymbal."

There is indeed a passage using that expression. It is found in I Corinthians 13:1 [NASB] -- "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."

Beware!!! A congregation that once "did not" but now does use instrumental music -- "a noisy gong" -- may be on its way to "speaking with the tongues of men [and women]" but "have love," of course.

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Donnie Cruz
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Re: network54 hacked

May 21 2013, 10:19 PM 


That was quick thinking on your part. I'm wondering if you haven't decided yet [just kidding]: if your preference is to align with the liberals or with the conservatives. (I think we've discussed this before.)

It's good that you mentioned only two options: one or the other.

In the world of politics, these are a few examples of the differences:

-- Barack Hussein's confiscation & redistribution of wealth ... or ... __________
-- Indulging in deception ... or ... __________
-- Seeking to exploit ... or ... __________
-- Lack of regard & respect for the Constitution ... or ... __________
-- etc.

What can we say then about the liberals and the conservatives in the church of Christ in particular?

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Ken Sublett
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May 21 2013, 10:00 PM 

Theologians or Hermeneuts have adopted HERMES as the ANTI-Christ LOGOS. It is predestined that despising the Word and replacing it with singers and clappers (same word as vomit in Hebrew) has God joyfully sending STRONG DELUSIONS so that the Theologians are trapped into the strong delusion of repeating (Cuckoo, Cuckoo) their mentors and supporting theologians. Those of the elect who CAN fall into the madness have taken the MARK (clap, smite, brand) of the BEAST or Therion meaning "A new style of music or drama."

Apparently is isn't possible or in the snapse quotient for such theologians to even define words. Now, I don't know how you can be an expert in a very remote text if you don't even care to know that the definition MARKS you as one who DOES NOT CARE or CANNOT care. I am encouraged that such a small number of Churches of Christ have taken the bait and followed the Pied Piper.

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John in Revelation 18 calls them SORCERERS who WILL be (or have been) Cast alive into the Lake of Fire and are being consumed by the BREATH (spirit) of their own MOUTH. Now, tell me why Miriam and the Levites were called SOOTHSAYERS (often used of sorcery) with instruments and John calls the SORCERERS (Pharmakea an ancient Babylonian Sorceress) and the HERMENEUTS (messenger for ZEUS which they pronounce Je-Zeus) say that the SOOTHSAYERS during burning or goats or infants are their PATTERN and they FAITHFULLY ENACT the prophecy of the END-Time rise of Apollo (Abaddon, Apollyon) and the Muses known as the LOCUSTS. And they say: ALL I HEAR IS SILENCE.

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