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Ken Sublett
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Re: Singing is Commanded

June 24 2013, 1:41 PM 

The REST of the 1 Peter 2 story. Notice that the PAGAN THESIS is always followed by the Christian ANTITHESIS: the hated epistles never define the singular role of the assembly WITHOUT repudiating the hypocritic arts and crafts.

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Bill
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Re: Singing is Commanded

June 24 2013, 10:56 AM 

Good article. Unfortunately, some people hold the view that "singing and making melody in your hearts..." is only a metaphor, not a command. They allege that vocal music is not the command; therefore, we are to SPEAK to one another in psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. There is nothing wrong with speaking praise to God, but to reject the command to sing is a significant deviation [. . .].


    
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Donnie
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Re: Singing is Commanded

July 13 2013, 2:38 AM 

Vocal music is a type of music; it is not a command.

 
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Bill
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"Singing and Making Melody in Your Hearts to the Lord"

June 24 2013, 10:46 AM 

Eph. 5:19 and Col. 3:16 tell us to speak to ourselves in psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. At the same time, those verses tell us to sing and make melody in our hearts to the Lord. While some folks may prefer to speak hymns and not sing them, [I ...] interpret "sing and make melody in your hearts" as a literal command to sing praises with the voice while the heart rejoices (makes melody). Advocates for spoken hymns may see "sing and make melody..." as a metaphor, not a command, but this is not the view that [I ...] maintain. Church of Christ members who advocate spoken hymns and who opine that vocal music is not the command do significantly deviate from the position [. . .] held for many decades. Though such members may feel that theirs is the "correct" position, they risk being regarded by their peers as rogues, misfits, and perhaps even as crackpots, because their position is so highly unconventional.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: Apollyon: Jim Hackney Heritage Church of Christ

June 25 2013, 11:34 AM 

You remember that Jesus said that truth had been hidden in parables from the foundation of the world. The Scribes and Pharisees Jesus called hypocrites meaning self-speakers, singers and instrument players (Ezekiel 33) are called a generation of VIPERS who will be baptized with WIND (spirit) and fire to SEPARATE the trash from the wheat.

The MUSES or musical worship teams which were suddenly unleased among churches of Christ are John's CODE word LOCUSTS. Even common people who had been educated in the theaters by plays would have understood the story of how the Muses had turned the sleepy-minded males into Locusts. In other accounts the Muses offended the mother goddess and were locked up in the smoky pit to be unleashed. Whether true or not John wants us to know that when you hear the SOUNDS-LIKE noises it is time for JUDGMENT and a sign for the godly people to go PREACH the gospel to all nations.

Here is just a few MARKS of the Muses in any church with a performance worship leader (hired song-leader), worship team or instruments from a huge body of researched data about the CODE word LOCUSTS.

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Anonymous
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Anonymous Won!

June 25 2013, 7:45 PM 

Now get out there and sing, sing, sing!!! Praise God!!!

Seen any fleecers lately?

 
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Anonymous
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Re: Anonymous Won!

June 25 2013, 8:05 PM 

Jim Hackney says that GOD is transistioning the Heritage Church of Christ into using INSTRUMENTS. FIRST, it's gonna hurt real bad but if you just follow the red herring you gonna feel real good that God FORCED you to violate ALL of the direct commands and minimal human ethics.

http://www.piney.com/Jim.Hackney.Romans.8.html

Jim Hackney is a FLEECER especially since he solicits money (Extortion if Paul did it) to keep paying for the NEW PROPERTY before we told you that GOD GONNA CAUSE SOME PAIN TO WE CAN GET THE GAIN FORM A MUSICAL WORSHIP TEAM DERIVED FROM CAIN.

Jesus warned that the VERY ELECT would barely escape with lots of lost fleece and even craunched bones form Paul's elders turned WOLVES: you know that boy love thingy that lusts to see them musicate and gyrate.

And yet Heritage proves what needs no proving: THE MAJORITY CAN BE FOOLED MOST OF THE TIME and God has no mercy for those who can be DITCHED by the gold diggers.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Apollyon: Jim Hackney Heritage Church of Christ

June 25 2013, 10:47 PM 

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Ken Sublett
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Heritage Church of Christ White Papers

June 27 2013, 1:40 PM 

Heritage Church of Christ list of WHITE PAPERS filled with BLACK lies.

http://www.piney.com/Heritage.Church.of.Christ.html

 
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john watson smith
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Read the new testament

July 2 2013, 7:00 PM 


Reading through Acts and other books I see no mention of instrumental music in the early church. I do find opposers of the Way resorting to various methods of corrupting the early church, including the fabrications of false witnesses and seeking to brand us as doing things "against the law". No small wonder that we have this same stuff happing today!

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Ken Sublett
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Jesus invites us to REST and LEARN only

July 9 2013, 4:46 PM 

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