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The Words or the Word

October 17 2013 at 2:56 PM
Dave  (no login)
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Let's trash it!

Knowing the Bible is one thing
Knowing the Author is another

Do you have a personal relationship with God and Jesus?

I know that this question still makes some people cringe.

John 5
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life."

Knowing the Words but yet not knowing the Word.

This message has been edited by Ken.Sublett from IP address on Oct 17, 2013 4:40 PM

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Donnie Cruz
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Re: The Words or the Word

October 17 2013, 8:07 PM 

What are you trying to say, Dave? Are you delivering a message (preaching) or are you bringing up something for us to discuss?

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Ken Sublett
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Re: The Words or the Word

October 17 2013, 9:40 PM 

Back to basics: WORD defines something SPOKEN. If you say Duh? that is A Word. If you say, Duh, huh? they be wordS as in plural. Jesus spoke the WORDS God breathed into Him and what one heard was the WORD. However, Word or Words as in LOGOS never speaks of a PEOPLE but what that people speaks. Jesus was the only Audible and Visible WORD of God. However, when Jesus inspired the WRITTEN word what we read on paper these centuries later is still THE LOGOS simply because we understand that the written Word was never a people but the spirit or mind or mental disposition of that people.

Now, look at the MEANING of LOGOS and it is never a PEOPLE but is used to PERSONIFY the Word.

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People who say that they preach the WORD are telling a lie. The RATIONAL discourse of God EXCLUDES introductions, personal accounts (mostly lies says Gallup), rhetoric, poetry, music, playing instruments, acting or drama (what we learned them at ACU, LU etal)

Jesus as Son had NO INPUT into the words which He spoke from the father. The spirit OF Christ or the spirit OF Truth (thy Word is Truth) brings to the Apostles memory only what Jesus in the flesh taught them. Therefore, anytime anyone hints that A Spirit person guides them beyond the sacred pages they cannot RECITE THE LOGOS because God makes certain that "the Devils got their tongue." The SONS of the Devil says Jesus speak on their own.

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