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Beginning: The BEAST rides the MOTHER: End: The MOTHER rides the BEAST

January 16 2014 at 7:26 PM
Ken Sublett  (Login Ken.Sublett)
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PART A:false preachers write sermons to DECEIVE or SEDUCE the AUDIENCE and Musicians write SERPENT songs to slowly wind their way into the church they "Infiltrated and Diverted" into a "holy whorehouse."

You have to be TERMINALLY IGNORANT or Purpose Driven by the Devil as TERMINALLY EVIL. Judas did not know that the DEVIL MADE HIM DO IT until Jesus fed him the SOP which carries the same message as PSALLO.

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You don't NEED real Instruments from Lucifer the singing and harp playing prostitute. You can do it with a "musical praise team" or singing out of the blue book to perform an ACT in order to do a legalistic end-run around the command to "use one mind and one mouth to speak that which is written for our learning."

There is NO music concept for A School of Christ.

Lexis or Logos is the OPPOSITE of ODE
ODE is the opposite of the SPEAK words.

Paul said SPEAK to yourselves
But, ODE and PSALLO in the HEART.

Any kind of complex singing DESTROYS the ability to read the Word. WE always knew that: the SERPENT and the ROBBERS.


    
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Part B. Musical Performers a CAINITES: Sons of the Devil

January 18 2014, 1:15 PM 

You have heard from the beginning

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Re: Part B. Musical Performers a CAINITES: Sons of the Devil

January 18 2014, 4:29 PM 

I go with Scripture unless there is some good reason not to.

1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

All pagan "gods" claimed to be virgin-born. All pagans believed in a trinity of father, spirit (mother) and infant son.

You remember what Jesus said: parables from the foundation of the world to fool THE WORLD (Scribes, Pharisees, Hypocrites, speakers, singers, instrument players Ezek 33

The SERPENT (musical enchanter) pretended to be GOD or superior to God. In many of the ancient, contemporaneous acccounts the SERPENT convinced Eve that he WAS GOD.

Eve said I got a MAN from THE LORD.

HER MAN (virgin born) Man h376 from h582 meaning From H605; properly a mortal (and thus differeing from the more dignified H120 ADAM )

Cain was a KENITE, from EVE and "the Lord", he was the mortal enemy and the name or MARK is a MUSICAL NOTE.

Cain, Kenite H7013 qayin kah'-yin From H6969 in the original sense of fixity; a lance (as striking fast):spear.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel.

H1893 hebel heh'-bel The same as H1892 ; Hebel, the SON of Adam:Abel. [a temporary son of ADAM]

Cain: I got CAIN "from the Lord."
Abel: BUT, Abel was the SON OF ADAM.

Cain was a FARMER who depended on 'worship services' as FERTILITY demands of God. Like the Levites "service" He was to keep in bondage, transgress, a worshiper. Jacob warned us NOT to go to assembly with the LEVITES but wait for SHILOH the Son of Judah.

But, Abel was a tender of flocks, associate with as a friend, feed, herdsmen.

If you do Hard Bondage or "worship services" instead of worship as giving attendance to the READING of the Word for doctrine and COMFORT to keep the friendship then you are a CAINITE where JUBAL is the the father of musical performers.

You need to take it up with EVE: She understood the two different sources.

 
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Re: Part B. Musical Performers a CAINITES: Sons of the Devil

January 18 2014, 6:10 PM 

Whether myth, legend, parable or whatever, the fact is that:

False teachers claim that God COMMANDED instrumental music in OUR CHURCH because they claim falsely that God commanded the Levite Soothsayer-Sorcerers in the NOT-commanded sacrificial system.

They say that there is nothing against imposing musical machines in the school of Christ and that God was SILENT (dumb).

However, the TEXT they claim to use as authority to SELL THE FREE WATER OF THE WORD repudiates them.

The Serpent, the Beast, Lucifer the singing and harp-playing prostitute, the Babylon Mother of harlots in Revelation and the collective opinion of historical scholarship until the Christian churches claimed AUTHORITY in the year 1878.

The fact is that Clay Tablets 2,000 to 3,000 years old when Moses was born proves that it was Inanna, Ishtar (etc) who STOLE the authority of the ELDERS, the musical performers and Kissing the Phallus from the father God.

http://www.piney.com/BabEaGifts.html

Ezekiel 8 has Christ defining the women and their worship IN THE TEMPLE where even the Levite Sorcerers would get executed for entering in their presumed "holy place."

http://www.piney.com/MuTammuz.html

In any case, God HIDES from the wise or SOPHISTS meaning self-speakers, singers and instrument players. Maybe Jesus was lying, but their only RATIONALE for breathing and passing the plate is the word, LOGOS or Regulative principle OPPOSITE of the above named theatrics.

He called the Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites and Christ named speakers for hire, singers and instrument players.




 
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Re: Part B. Musical Performers a CAINITES: Sons of the Devil

January 18 2014, 6:32 PM 

Nothing from Jehovah can be THAT WICKED ONE

The Serpent and Eve: From the Jewish Talmud, Jewish Encyclopedias, and Other Early Jewish Writings.

Yebamoth 103b: Rabbi Johanan stated: "When the serpent copulated with Eve, he infused her with lust."

Haye Sarah 126a: Another Rabbi states: "Thus I have learnt, that when the serpent had intercourse with Eve he injected defilement into her."

Haye Sarah 126b Another stated: "You rightly said that when the serpent had carnal intercourse with Eve he injected into her defilement."

Yevamot 103b: "According to the midrash, the snake seduced her to commit adultery with him. Thus a thrice repeated saying of Rabbi Yohanan has it that 'at the time that the snake had intercourse with Eve, he introduced filth into her..."

Ahare Moth 76b: One Rabbinic source stated: "Eve bore Cain from the filth of the serpent, and therefore from him were descended all the wicked generations, and from his side is the abode of spirits and demons."

Bereshith 36b: "For two beings had intercourse with Eve, and she conceived both and bore two children. Each followed one of the male parents, to this side and one to the other, and similarly their characters."

Shabbath 146a: "For when the serpent came upon Eve he injected lust into her."

Yevamot 103b: "...at the time that the snake had intercourse with Eve, he introduced filth into her.

Zohar I, 28b: "For they are the children of the ancient serpent which seduced Eve..."

Jewish Encycl.1905.Vol.XI p.69: "Satan was the seducer and paramour of Eve."

Legends of the Bible, by Louis Ginsberg, p.54: "Satan, in the guise of the serpent, approached her and the fruit of their union was Cain, the ancestor of all impious generations that were rebellious toward God, and rose up against Him. Cain's descent from Satan, who is the angel Sammael, was revealed in his seraphic appearance. At his birth, the exclamation was wrung from Eve, 'I have gotten a man, through an angel of the Lord."

Targum Pseudo-Jonathan: "Adam knew about his wife Eve that she had conceived by Sammael the angel of the Lord, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain."

Targum of Jonathan: "And Adam was aware that Eve his wife had conceived from Sammael the angel, and she became pregnant and bare Cain, and he was like those on high, not like those below; and she said, 'I have acquired a man, the angel of the Lord."

Jewish Encyc.1904-Vol.9.p.70: "The chief functions of Satan are, as already noted, those of temptation, accusation, and punishment. He was an active agent in the fall of man (Pirke R. El. Xii.) and was the father of Cain."

Jewish Encyc.1904-Vol.5,p.275: "Eve became pregnant, and bore Cain and Abel on the very day of (her creation and) expulsion from Eden (Gen. R. xii) Cain's real father was not Adam, but one of the demons..."

Pirqei de Rabbi Eliezer: "The serpent came into her and she became pregnant with Cain, as it says, "And the man knew his wife Eve. "What did he know" That she was already pregnant. (by Satan.)

Jerusalem Targum: "And Adam knew his wife, who had desired the Angel; and she conceived, and bare Cain; and she said, I have acquired a man, the Angel of the Lord. And she added to bear from her husband Adamhis twin, even Abel."

The Encycl. Britannica Vol.VIII - 1910. p.122 (Jewish Interpretations of Scripture):"The birth of Cain is ascribed to a union of Satan with Eve.


 
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You Reap What You Sow

January 18 2014, 9:46 PM 

Ken said "The Serpent and Eve: From the Jewish Talmud, Jewish Encyclopedias, and Other Early Jewish Writings."

This is the same Jews that crucified your Lord? You still trust everything BUT the 66 books. Are you ready to make your pilgrimage back to Israel and wait on your messiah too?

Ken, you also said..."Whether myth, legend, parable or whatever, the fact is that:"

Therein lies your problem...AGAIN....you can rely on ANYTHING and EVERYTHING....except the Word of God.

You don't know half as much as you claim, and you shame the Gospel.


 
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Re: You Reap What You Sow

January 18 2014, 10:54 PM 

The Mysteries Judaism Dunlap Latin Havam Arise, see, the Splen- dor (light) of the Newest MAN 1 (i. e. of Fetahil) has failed, the decrease of this Splendor is visible. Rise up, lie with thy MOTHER, and free thee from limits by which thou art held, and those more ample than the whole world. Which having been heard, that Wicked One, 2 his bones jumping, lay with the i " The Son of the MAN." Novissimus = Newest, Latest.

2 Compare the Vallis Eegia, xxxii. 11 ; xlii. 2, where the Serpent lay with Chava. Kabbal. Den., II. 306. Chava is Heuah (Eua, Eve.) 52 sod, SPIRITUS.

 
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Re: Beginning: The BEAST rides the MOTHER: End: The MOTHER rides the BEAST

January 19 2014, 12:07 PM 

Remember that Jesus spoke in parables from the foundation of the world: He set a RAT TRAP for people who have NO NEED TO KNOW. The LITERAL almost universal evidence is that the SERPENT had SEX wit EVE. Eve didn't point to just one people and Moses used names fitting for Babylon of the same religion in Egypt based on worshiping the CREATURES and not the CREATOR (the WORD) which inseminates.

We have noted that the 6 days or 6 thousand years is LITERAL: it does not begin with the creation of the universe but of the Hebrew People needing to be saved from the ASSYRIANS etal who were the TALLEST TREES IN EDEN. It became VISIBLE and AUDIBLE C. 2000 on target to the date. The VIPERS in Jerusalem were not true Israelites but we will post a bit to show that the VIPERS were not fit to be baptized when they heard the Water of the Word (Isaiah 55) free of charge but would receive the SPIRIT of Judgment and the SPIRIT of FIRE.

We don't do DOGMA but are civil enough NOT to chain the preacher to the pulpit so that the elders can SILENCE everyone elder. The Greeks and Paul in "corrupting the Word" marks that as PROSTITUTION. It doesn't matter which body part you sell in the name of the Lord when Christ has SILENCED "seeking your own pleasure or speaking your own words." You listen to the preacher this morning and he will SELL about 99% of personal folly by letting Paul have about 10 seconds.

Those OF FAITH or OF TRUTH will not get violent because they WOULD have read the "rest of the Word" in order to be APT.

This is the Spirit OF Christ explaining the parables but you can get a Phd never having read anything but the scholars version.

Assyria attacks the Tree

Isa 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.

Isaiah 10:6 I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks. Isaiah 10:12

http://www.piney.com/Isa30LXX.html

And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day; Isaiah 10:17

And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. Isaiah 10:18

And the rest of the TREES of his forest shall be few, that a child may write them. Isaiah 10:19

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the remnant of Israel, and such as are escaped of the house of Jacob, shall no more again stay upon him that smote them; but shall stay upon the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. Isaiah 10:20

Behold, the Lord, the Lord of hosts, shall lop the BOW with terror: and the high ones of stature shall be hewn down, and the haughty shall be humbled. Isaiah 10: 33

And he shall cut down the thickets of the forest with iron, and Lebanon shall fall by a mighty one. Isaiah 10: 34


4. Remember that this is a "proverb (parable) against the king of Babylon" (v. 4). "Lucifer" means "the morning star", which is the brightest of the stars. In the parable, this star proudly decides to "ascend (higher) into heaven...exalt my throne above the (other) stars of God" (v. 13).

The TREE that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth; Daniel 4:20

Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation: Daniel 4: 21

It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth. Daniel 4: 22

And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him; Daniel 4: 23

This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the most High, which is come upon my lord the king: Daniel 4: 24

That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will. Daniel 4: 25

And whereas they commanded to leave the stump of the tree roots; thy kingdom shall be sure unto thee, after that thou shalt have known that the heavens do rule. Daniel 4: 26

 
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ALMOST means He Is Fishing for Anything

January 20 2014, 11:20 AM 

Ken said "The LITERAL almost universal evidence is that the SERPENT had SEX wit EVE."
What does the Word of God say?
Genesis 3
1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, I have acquired a man from the Lord. (KJV)
4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. (KJV)

IT SAYS....that where Ken suggests is "...LITERAL almost universal evidence....is not telling the truth....a fabrication....a tall tale.

Nice liberal phrase there Ken.....ALMOST universal. Almost, except the Word of God?

NOWHERE does it even suggest, in the Word, that Eve was seduced by the serpent.
Again Ken and Donnie, Cain was not the son of the devil, no matter how much you cover it up.

 
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Re: Beginning: The BEAST rides the MOTHER: End: The MOTHER rides the BEAST

January 20 2014, 12:47 PM 

A CHASTE virgin is the opposite of one WHOLLY SEDUCED.

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Re: Beginning: The BEAST rides the MOTHER: End: The MOTHER rides the BEAST

January 20 2014, 1:11 PM 

Dr. Grump says there is no recorded evidence and then he boasts that he doesn't read my posts, so we let Dr. Grump PASS whatever it is he passes.

With that Attitude, LU would give him a PhDuh in The-O-Lite

 
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And again......and again....

January 20 2014, 5:00 PM 

1 John 3
2 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Ken, do you NOTICE that after it says "....Can, who was of that wicked one..." it also says "....BECAUSE his OWN WORKS WERE EVIL..."

Ken, you are still discarding what you don't like or what doesn't fit your ideology and schemes. It means that, just like you have chosen evil when tested by Satan, Cain did the same. Cain CHOSE to do evil, but Able was righteous. OF that wicked one....means he chose to do follow Satan and do evil instead of good.

Reading means nothing if you chose not to use spiritual wisdom. Selective reasoning doesn't cut it....never has....never will.

Then, Ken, on top of all of that, you would stake your soul on abusing 1 Corinthians 3:11
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Beguiled doesn't mean to sexually seduce.

Beguiled
1. to influence by trickery, flattery, etc.; mislead; delude.
2. to take away from by cheating or deceiving (usually followed by of ): to be beguiled of money.
3. to charm or divert: a multitude of attractions to beguile the tourist.
4. to pass (time) pleasantly: beguiling the long afternoon with a good book

An opposing opinion...."Now We see in the definition below of "beguile" from the same English dictionary used above, what it's meaning is. We see here that this definition has the same meaning as does the Hebrew word nasha' (Strong's #05377) used in Genesis 3:13 and translated as "beguiled". They both mean deceived. The reference to seduction shown in Strong's is clearly referring to the deception used in seducing one and not to the act of sex itself
be-guile (be-gil'), v. t. To work upon by guile; delude; cheat; disappoint or foil; deprive artfully (of) ; draw (into, out of etc.) as by wiles; charm or divert; while away (time) pleasantly. - be-guile'ment, n. The act of beguiling; the state of being beguiled; a beguiling agency or influence.-- be-guil'er (- gi'ler), n. -- be-guil'ing-ly, adv.
Therefore we can say with certainty that EVE did NOT have sex with Satan which led to the birth of Cain. Eve herself said that she believed that Cain was the man child promised by God in Genesis 4:1"

Ken, you ever heard of the saying "If I could buy you for what you're worth and sell you for what you think you are worth?"


 
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Re: And again......and again....

January 20 2014, 9:11 PM 


1 John 3:2 Not as Cain, who was OF that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.


Sorry, David, but you do not have access to the body of literature showing how a word is USED: there are no disctionaries defining a word out of it's context. Cain's WORKS were EVIL because he was OF that wicked one.

John 8:44 Ye are OF your father the devil,
.....and the lusts of your father ye will do.
.....He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
.....because there is no truth in him.
.....When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own:
.....for he is a liar, and the FATHER of it.
John 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Matthew 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the MULTITUDES in parables;
.....and without a parable spake he not unto them:
Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet,
.....saying, I will open my mouth in parables;
I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
Matthew 13:36 Then Jesus sent the MULTITUDE away, and went into the house:
.....and his disciples came unto him,
.....saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
Matthew 13:37 He answered and said unto them,
.....He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

NOTICE that ex-churches of Christ have fallen into the trap of SEEKING the MULTITUDES. They boast about how their massive work and money has made them BIG. One preacher said that you cannot be saved unless you come to his kind of church as OPPOSITE of those who do not BOW to instrumental "music" and CLAPPING. Scripture and traditional history knows of NO exception to the fact that it was DEMONS (Lucifer, Zoe) who taught men how to seduce with music. The lone EXCEPTION they allow is JUBAL who was the SON OF CAIN who was the SON OF THE SERPENT who handled all of the instruments meaning WITHOUT AUTHORITY.

Jesus sowed the WORD and people who "gladly received THE WORD were baptized" and their spirits now REgenerated are translated into the heavenly kingdom NOT present at religious observations other than PREACHING the Word (only) by READING the Word for Comfort and Doctrine.

Matthew 13:38 The field is the WORLD;
.....the good SEED are the children of the kingdom;
.....but the TARES are the CHILDREN [huio] of the WICKED ONE

Tares are sown in the wheat BECAUSE it is a tare. Good seed did not BECOME a Tare.

There are TWO RACES on the Earth; the natural born earthlings and those not OF the World.

In Matthew 13 Jesus spoke to the VIPER RACE in parables to PREVENT them from hearing the invitation which can only be heard by the LITTLE FLOCK of lost spirits. Jesus said that they are NOT OF THE WORLD. The World or Kosmos is the planet of the KOSMOKRATOR. If all of the Bible calls them the sons of the SERPENT we wonder why people get so violent and call Scripture LIARS.

kosmos , metaph., of ornaments of speech, such as epithets, Id.9.9 (pl.), Arist.Rh.1408a14, Po.1457b2, 1458a33; hadumel k. keladein to sing sweet songs of praise, Pi.O.11 (10).13 (s.v.l.).

Matthew 13:39 The enemy that SOWED them is the devil;
.....the harvest is the end of the world;
.....and the reapers are the angels.

SOWED: speir 2. engender, beget offspring (cf. 11.2), S.Aj.1293, Tr.33, E.Ion 49, etc.; hoi speirantes the parents, spermata

Matthew 13:40 As therefore the TARES [Sons of the Devil]
.....are gathered and burned in the fire; [baptized with fire]
.....so shall it be in the end of this world.

Matthew 3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees
.....come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of VIPERS,
..........who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,
.....Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire,
.....prepared for the devil and his angels: [located evangelists]


John 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your FATHER. Then said they to him,
.....We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

Jesus said: you are liars:

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me:
.....for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech?
.....even because ye CANNOT hear my word.

The Sons of the Devil CANNOT hear the Word. WHY? because they are OF the World. Jesus said that He and those who gladly received the WORD are by definition NOT OF the World.

Jesus said that He came from the FATHER. The Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites (speakers, singers, instrument players by definition DID NOT COME from the Father. God did not make SATANIC SPIRITS and send them into the world; He only creates that which is GOD. Jesus said that the Father HIDES Himself from the Wise or Sophists meaning those who speak on their own (sons of the Devil), singers and instrument players MOCKING Jesus to keep Him silent and the lambs dumb.

The LOGOS is the regulative principle MOCKED by people on the attack trying to seduce people into taking the mark of Religious Services or operations when Jesus said that the Kingdom DOES NOT come to such "services" or hard bondage: that Abaddon, Apollyon word of the Jacob-cursed Levites

 
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Re: And again......and again....

January 20 2014, 9:38 PM 


1 John 3:2 Not as Cain, who was OF that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.


Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

John 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word./
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
John 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

 
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January 20 2014, 10:09 PM 

h 5377 Nasha

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Nachash (h5172) naw-khash'; a prim. root; prop. to hiss, i. e. whisper a (magic) spell; gen. to prognosticate: - * certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) * enchantment, learn by experience, * indeed, diligently observe

Nachash "snake, serpent" with nshk "bite" provides a link between two verses in Amos speaking of the impossibility of escape Amos 5:19 and 9:3 - nachash often either carries overtones of the serpent in Eden (Gen 3) or of the mythology of Canaanite cultures (Is 27:1).
Nashak (h5391) naw-shak'; a prim. root; to strike with a sting (as a serpent); fig., to oppress with interest on a loan: - bite, lend upon usury.

Serpo , of things, to move slowly or imperceptibly, to creep along, proceed gradually,
Of disease, etc.: si ulcus latius atque altius serpit, gradually spreads, serpentes quasdam (bestias), quasdam esse gradientes, chamaeleon,
Fire: exsistit sacer ignis et urit corpore serpens, slowly spreading, canam, qui leniter
(cf.: sermones Repentes per humum,
A creeping LOUSE

The serpents, however, of the magicians-(that is,) the gods of destruction-withstood the power of Moses in Egypt, but the rod of Moses reduced them all to subjection and slew them.

This universal serpent is, he says, the wise discourse of Eve. [Eve, or ZOE, the Mediatrix, was honored because the serpent taught her feminine knowledge

This, he says, is the mystery of Edem, this the river of Edem; this the mark that was set upon Cain, that any one who findeth him might not kill him. This, he says, is Cain, [Gen. iv. 15] whose sacrifice [Gen. iv. 5. ] the god of this world did not accept.

Jeremiah 49:16 Thy terribleness hath deceived thee, and the pride of thine heart, O thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, that holdest the height of the hill: though thou shouldest make thy nest as high as the eagle, I will bring thee down from thence, saith the LORD.
Jeremiah 49:17 Also Edom shall be a desolation: every one that goeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss at all the plagues thereof.
Jeremiah 49:18 As in the overthrow of Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD, no man shall abide there, neither shall a son of man dwell in it.


Jerusalem is defined as Sodom in Revelation

 
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Servant
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Keep on Keeping On

January 20 2014, 10:45 PM 

Well Ken, you certainly have access to many bodies of literature showing......showing......great personal opinion.

1 John 3
2 Not as Cain, who was OF that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Genesis 4
1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
KJV, for you Ken. What does "Adam knew Eve his wife" mean? Pull out your many many bodies of literature work to make sense of it, but it still will always means that ADAM was the father of Cain....because ADAM had sexual relations with Eve, not Satan.

Satan was not the father of Cain.. Genesis 4:1 and 1 John 3 proves it. Cain slew Able, and why? BECAUSE of his own works. Let me restate that for your Ken......because.....his own works, which were evil. Oh, and Ken.....that STILL goes today. What were Cain's own works? They were evil. A man reaps what his sows. If he sows evil works, guess what he will reap? Ken, did even Adam pass on his own sins to Cain? No. And why? "Because his own works were evil..." Cain was OF that wicked one because of his OWN actions.
Ken, your sins are YOUR sins. You have to take responsibility for your own actions.

Ken, don't back up now. You have painted yourself into a corner and I can be useful to you as you lash out. I don't mind taking your hits. I have taken them for years from Donnie and Bill and yourself. I can be useful to you.

Keep on trying Ken. It helps make my point about concerned members.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Keep on Keeping On

January 21 2014, 12:02 PM 

I just quote the text because you are never going to hear beyond sermons reading verse 3-d as "my text for MY additions."

My once upon a time stray cat I took in gave birth to two persian looking ones, one solid black and one tabbyish. The same thing can happen in humans--so I am told.

ONE Mother: Two Fathers!

Since I just copy and paste I don't paint: you have to decide that the ONLY Bible or history on the subject means that Cain himself WAS a son of the Devil as stated (marked by speaking on his own and violating the command to PREACH the Word by READING the Word for Comfort and Doctrine) or that the Devil ENTERED him and REgenerated him. Take your pick: it makes little difference since I don't plan to fleece you in tithes and offerings.

Jesus said that the Jewish clergy which "had a covenant with death and hell" COULD NOT HEAR His message to the "babes" to HIDE from the WISE or SOPHISTS means speaking their own words, singing, playing instruments, acting or dancing--that gliding around on the podium. Do you believe that Jesus was violating ALL of the law by "showing partiality?"

I don't do dogma (includes musical performance or turning God's Word into a song) so I will just COPY AND PASTE and you can decide that it is FIGURATIVE when there is no hint of being figurative.

If I am right then people who will boast about UPSETTING you but moving slowly (Serpent creepethh) so you don't know that you have been INJECTED to NOT RESIST imposing musical performance which is the MARK of the BEAST in the garden because Christ called him-her-it a singing and harp-playing prositute" and in Revelation we learn from caring enough to read and define that:

The MARK is believing that an always gender-singing and playing instead of SPEAKING that which is written for our learning.

The Beast (Lucifer-Zoe-Venus) in the Garden of Eden is the Babylon Mother of Harlots (Revelation 17) using lusted after FRUITS (same as in Amos 8) as a sudden NEW STYLE OF MUSIC or SATYRIC Drama.

The IMAGE or IDOL is REpresenting or IMAGING (Greeks called it a third remove from facts) the WORD of God as TRUE WORSHIP. Jameson says of the hypocrites in Ezekiel 33 "they TURNED the Words of God into a song-Psalmos."

You are correct, Jesus never said 'thou shalt not be a hypocrite.'

I don't intend to spend much time when people cannot read and consider the posted BIBLE TEXT. Did you know that besides using MAYBERRY as sermons and using ARTIST to paint the sermon proves that God does HIDE from the great pretenders quickly replacing the preachers who use the TEXT?

 
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Common Sense Isn't so Common Any Longer

January 21 2014, 1:40 PM 

Ken asked "I don't intend to spend much time when people cannot read and consider the posted BIBLE TEXT. Did you know that besides using MAYBERRY as sermons and using ARTIST to paint the sermon proves that God does HIDE from the great pretenders quickly replacing the preachers who use the TEXT?"

No, Ken, I didn't know that, but I am certainly glad that you told me. By the way, Greek mythology, personal opinion, & man's recorded history is NOT Bible text.

One more thing, if you sin (not saying that you ever have or ever will or would sin), but if you did or maybe do some time, is that sin OF God or OF Satan? If it is OF Satan, then is Satan your father?

Just a thought....

This might be a good time to edit....

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: Common Sense Isn't so Common Any Longer

January 22 2014, 4:08 AM 

(1) We can't change Greek mythology. Neither can we deny it.

(2) Personal opinion. Now ... everyone has it. The Scripture can prove it or disprove it.

(3) Recorded history is not Bible text, but recorded history that matches what the Bible presents certainly gives credence to the text. We should have the ability to discern when recorded history is not verifiable according to the Scripture.

(4) John 8:44 -- "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

 
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Re: Keep on Keeping On

January 21 2014, 6:06 PM 

Ken or Donnie, should we consider the KJV bible corrupt on the subject of the Holy Spirit? Did the KJV flub the correct gender of the Holy Spirit?

 
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