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LU ETC Judaisers MARK-EM

August 31 2014 at 9:56 PM
Ken Sublett  (Login Ken.Sublett)
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From my time at North Boulevard Church of Christ the elders have supported and endorsed Joseph Shulam: so called Messianic Jew.

Joseph.Shulam.Early.Believers.Worshipped.at.Temple

http://www.piney.com/Joseph.Shulam.Early.Believers.at.Temple.html

That's False: they went to the COURT YARDS to preach the Word and CONFRONT the Jews.

http://www.piney.com/Joe.Shulam.First.Century.Jewish.Identity.as.Model.html

http://www.piney.com/www.piney.com/Joe.Shulam.First.Century.Jewish.Identity.as.Model.html

http://www.piney.com/Messianic.Jews.not.come.to.destroy.but.fulfil.html

Joseph has worked many churches of Christ by claiming that Jesus is the messiah. However, they do not believe that Jesus as the Christ "destroyed the Jew's covenant with death and hell." They claim that NEW TESTAMENT or NEW COVENANT does not appear in the New Testament as a Bible. The New Covenant of the Prophets is simply the finishing work of the OLD TESTAMENT or TORAH. Torah means a law but the Law of Christ is not the Torah of Moses imposed on the Jews BECAUSE of musical idolatry of the trinity (Anti-Christ as defined by John). Therefore, THEY live by the Law of Moses while the godly Jews lived under the only spiritual covenant made by God in Christ to ABRAHAM. They attended church or synagogue to QUARANTINE the from Jerusalem which Jesus calls SODOM and the Mother of Harlots.

There is blasphemy and the ultimate of blasphemy supported by Lipscomb University and North Boulevard Church of Christ. Joe says that no one can understand the Bible without Jewish blood being ever so diluted flowing from one dispersed Jewish mother in some of the countries.

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Re: Lipscomb University: Joseph Shulam Messianic Judaizer

September 1 2014, 8:46 AM 

"From my time at North Boulevard Church of Christ the elders have supported and endorsed Joseph Shulam: so called Messianic Jew."



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Did Ken know about the endorsement of Joseph Shulam before Ken placed membership at North Boulevard Church of Christ? Does Ken always fish with no bait on his hook? Perhaps Ken would be so lucky if the fish just jumped into the boat?




 
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Ken Sublett
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Shulam.LU.North Boulevard Judaizing

September 2 2014, 9:19 PM 

Most "mega churches" or "progressive churches" fulfill prophecy defined by the beginning Jerusalem as the "mother of harlots" and called "Sodom." That includes a dominate and dominating "king set over us" followed by building a pyramid or ziggurat type organization of STAFF for any imaginate task and filling up your "free time" with programs decidedly anti-Biblical.

Messianic Jews claim that Messiah just made the LAW OF MOSES more certain and that Jews still considered superior and chosen must follow the pattern of God turning the people over to worship the starry host.

You have to be Purpose Driven to be ANTI-Christ who defined the New Covenant made possible only after the Jew's covenant with death and hell was destroyed. Joe Shulam and those who support him claim that God planned and executed the murder of Jesus and the Jews by participated MADE SALVATION POSSIBLE to the Gentiles. In truth, only when the laded burden and burden laders were removed was it possible for both Jews and Gentiles to be SAVED FROM THAT CROOKED RACE.

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Response

September 2 2014, 11:05 PM 

Some good points. Very early Campbell's anticlergy stance. Recognizes that new covenant is just not an enhanced version of old covenant, but a spiritual product that replaces legal requirements of law.

It is impossible to disagree with the later part of the post since it is primarily pure scripture.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Response

September 3 2014, 11:35 AM 


 
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Ken Sublett
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Shelly-York the Exodus Pattern for Commune.

September 3 2014, 1:31 PM 

Rubel Shelly as the foundation upon which much of the apostasy was built and John York did a series on Exodus as the PATTERN for the Church as a community meaning commune.

Now, Lipscomb University is using Joshua as the pattern they believe God commanded the Jews or defacto Egyptians to move into Canaan and slaughter all of the owners and confiscate their property. That is the Purpose Driven Cult pattern to "infiltrate and divert" and Carrol D. Osburn's pattern for feminist theology using "small acts of treachery."

http://www.piney.com/WinRSExComm.html

Consistent with the FACTS in most modern "churches" York and Shelly insists that "Individuals lose their right to read, interpret or speak the Word OUTSIDE of the community (commune) reading." That reading is that of the now-dominant preacher person unable to read the Word by the operation of God Who sends strong delusions.

That is the Community Church of Family of God plot they tried in my town.

Consistent with the feminists (Fuller) theology at LU using Ignatian Retreats to ignore the written WORD and get a message directly from someone. In the Jew's covenant with death and hell (Amos) they held religious festivals WITH and FOR dead ancestors. The LU head says that there was nothing wrong with their WORSHIP: they just had a bad mental attitude.

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Armageddon in the spiritual realm is not the War of the world but the War of Words. Organon or a musical instrument for doing hard work mostly in making war.

 
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Top Down Hierarchy

September 3 2014, 6:38 PM 

The current digression is a rebirth of the failed international which took away the right to know the Word individually. Traditional protections in the COC protecting personal freedom are replaced by 21 and 40 day programs developed to extract money from the pew member.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Lipscomb University: Joseph Shulam Messianic Judaizer

September 3 2014, 9:12 PM 

Here are some notes on the 40 day plan. David young speaks of VISION CASTING and Lynn Anderson lifts his change terminology from Wicca.

If YOU know what YOUR agenda is and you need a 40 day plan, you are involved is psychological violence of mind control. If YOU decide that YOUR agenda was right after all because--obviously--you claim that a "spirit" is going to send you a message, then you have dared YOU to reject the voice of "the holy spirit." David Young and HIS elders have told the people that WE will introduce the changes GRADUALLY so that YOU don't get nervous.

The REAL Ephesians 4 says that the elders as pastor-teachers are to silence the cunning craftsmen or sophists meaning rhetoricians, singers and instrument players. The REASON says Paul is that THEY ARE LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.

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In the record of the Bible the FORTY DAY PLAN is to TEST you to see whether you break or not. When Judas discovered that he was the Judas Goat he hanged himself and twisted in the wind until his guts dropped out. That is going to happen when these people (left and right) discover that PSALLO or SOP signaled the Devil that his angel of light has failed and must be removed.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Lipscomb University: Joseph Shulam Messianic Judaizer

September 3 2014, 9:25 PM 

Scripture noted: "The current digression is a rebirth of the failed international."

Maybe you can fill us in on the details.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Lipscomb University: Joseph Shulam Messianic Judaizer

September 3 2014, 9:49 PM 

David Young wrote a book on Extreme Discipleship.

http://www.piney.com/David.Young.Extreme.Discipleship.Following.Jesus.html

Consistent with the Hope Network of Lynn Anderson a favorite of LU's present leaders is:

Question: "What is heavy shepherding?"
Answer: “Heavy shepherding” (also referred to as the “Discipleship Movement”) is a method of psychological control used by abusive churches and cults. It came out of the Shepherding Movement of the 1970s. The International Churches of Christ from the Boston Movement is perhaps the most well-known group that practices heavy shepherding. Another infamous group to come out of the Shepherding Movement was Christian Grown Ministries in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Heavy shepherding churches and cults can be identified by the following practices:
• Submission to “discipleship partners” or “shepherds” and those in authority
• Obligation to confess sin to “discipleship partners” or “shepherds”
• Unquestioning loyalty and obedience to all those in authority
• Obligation to intensively recruit others to join the movement
• Authoritarian leadership and group experience
• Conformity to the movement’s standards
• Spiritual manipulation and intimidation
• Hierarchical system of accountability
• Legalism and control over members
• Prohibition against reading any literature not approved by the leadership
• Whistle-blowing on members suspected of being nonconformists
• Total dependence on the movement and the leaders for approval
• Fear of punishment or humiliation for questioning the leadership


Read more:
http://www.gotquestions.org/heavy-shepherding.html#ixzz3CJ6arbrv


David Young expects 35% participation: this automatically creates a "sectarian" split between the dedicated and the not insiders.


 
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Heavy Shepherding

September 3 2014, 10:03 PM 

The worst cult might very well be Scientology if you want to be really scared.

Collapsing the entire teaching program to a common theme is a sneaky way to indoctrinate the entire church.

Church growth has traditionally come from well taught and dedicated teachers who are no compromised by the church hierarchy...

 
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Failed International

September 3 2014, 9:53 PM 

Similarity of recent changes with failed International Church of Christ...
Top-Down Organization with all change ideas coming from top
Robbing Churches of Christ of their members
New beliefs
Group coercion could be simular to discipling
Making church growth the only goal

Of course there are some great differences as well

 
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Ken Sublett
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Revelation -- The Beast --- Music --- and Hell Part A of several

September 4 2014, 2:18 PM 

We have noted that the Lipscomb powers allow those to BUY and SELL marks of the prophesied End time:

The MERCHANTS (corrupters of the Word) either TEACH or AFFIRM by participating the use of what they call "instrumental music in worship."

Long time Endorsement of Edward Fudge who claims some honor in destroying church of Christ "distinctives" (a lie word) as instrumental music.

Edward Fudge is a man of fame for making "for ever and ever" and "in this world and the world (aion) to come" mean just a short for ever and ever.

He denies and the "buy and sell approved list" must AFFIRM the historic or traditional or Before.Me Age that the Spirit as recorded and preserved for thousands of years just didn't know what He (God) was talking about.

HOWEVER, we have asserted the fact that using INSTRUMENTAL MACHINES FOR MAKING NOISE which dissociates the mind (sorcery) and Makes Jesus the Lamb and all of their collectivized PAYING AUDIENCE dumb before the slaughter is the CAUSE or MARK of God removing His LAMPS in preparation for CASTING THEM ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

The SOUNDS--LIKE HARPS and other PANIC-CREATING SOUNDS they claim is "a" spirit's command for them to impose instrumental performance within CONTEXT shows that it is a SIGN OF JUDGMENT, TIME IS SHORT, SO PREACH THE GOSPEL which includes no music or Musicators.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: Revelation -- The Beast --- Music --- and Hell Part A of several

September 4 2014, 4:40 PM 

Upgraded Part A

 
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Re: Revelation -- The Beast --- Music --- and Hell Part A of several

September 5 2014, 11:38 AM 

Scripture mentioned, "...Traditional protections in the COC protecting personal freedom are replaced by 21 and 40 day programs developed to extract money from the pew member."

Is Scripture on same line and level as K. Sublett now, with Ken shooting down the fleecers, and Scripture going down the same road (extract instead of fleece)?

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Revelation -- The Beast --- Music --- and Hell Part A of several

September 5 2014, 1:58 PM 

I am trying to catch up with Scripture and he needs to post more because he is a disciple.

Too bad that you haven't gotten your FLIGHT FEATHERS yet.

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: Revelation -- The Beast --- Music --- and Hell Part A of several

September 5 2014, 2:10 PM 

One being in agreement with another on ALL issues simply does not happen -- that's common knowledge.

You did bring up one statement by Scripture regarding 21- and 40-day programs. Do you agree or disagree with the statement? Is any of these programs [developed especially by Community Church and denominational movers, e.g., Rick Warren, et al] being introduced, endorsed or implemented in your congregation?

 
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Foreign Literature

September 5 2014, 3:10 PM 

Watch your church carefully.

Do strange creed suddenly appear?

Are there unexplained pauses and reversals of direction?

Does the preacher threaten to throw out the baby with the bath water?

Normally when unexplained events occur, they contain the clues necessary to understand the entire operation.

If the church you attend is not transparent, begin to worry.

 
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Re: Revelation -- The Beast --- Music --- and Hell Part A of several

September 5 2014, 5:42 PM 

Scripture (Ze) is Ken's yes man (person). It won't last long. LOL!

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Revelation -- The Beast --- Music --- and Hell Part A of several

September 5 2014, 7:35 PM 

We both finished remedial reading grade 6. I will bet that we both agree that the Spirit OF Christ is not a little person who functions as His mind.

We probably also agree that a WORD is not a people but what a people speaks.

 
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