The Christian Comedian...Seriously?October 25 2014 at 11:35 AM
|Bill (no login)|
from IP address 126.96.36.199
Apparently one of the gimmicks some modern churches use today to keep Christians "interested" is the so-called "Christian comedian." S/he's the person who tells jokes and amusing anecdotes just like a regular stand-up comedian, only the butt of those jokes is Christianity. Now these jokes are designed to put a light spin on Christianity so that it will be more pleasing and palatable to the masses. If people can get a good laugh out of praise and worship, if they can see Christianity as anything but "serious," they can stomach going to church.
Here's a link to one such "Christian comedian." His subject is hand-raising in worship. Judge for yourself.
|Cosby Christian |
|October 25 2014, 6:30 PM |
Bill lighten up bro ...this isn't even inside of a church or a service. But even if it was big deal. Laugh a little
Christianity Is Serious Business
|October 25 2014, 10:49 PM |
Apparently Cosby Christian (CC) approves of making Christian worship the butt of jokes and humor, whether those jokes occur in or out of the worship assembly. Sadly, that's the typical mindset of today's worldly minded, "progressive Christians."
I don't believe that CC will find anything recorded in the New Testament where Jesus ever made light of His mission on earth; that is, Jesus was never a stand-up comedian. Therefore, I would encourage CC and all Christians to take worship, the Gospel, and all of Christianity most seriously. Leave the jokes for those who don't give a rip about Christianity.
Re: Christianity Is Serious Business
|October 26 2014, 3:12 PM |
Bill is so right...you will never find Scripture speaking of where Jesus made light of anything. It doesn't say anywhere in the Scriptures where there will be any laughter in heaven. Alas, though, if he believes that there will not be any such laughter, then heaven will be a huge disappointment to him......and many others like him.
ID of above post: Dave Fields
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Re: Christianity Is Serious Business
|October 26 2014, 9:33 PM |
There is a vast difference between laughter of joy and laughter of mockery. The New Testament describes heaven as a place where there will be no more woes and troubles of the world (Rev. 21:4). Thus, heaven is total joy. On the other hand, "Christian comedians" use humor to trivialize and mock Christianity to evoke laughter. Christians should find no delight in humor that mocks their faith.
|October 29 2014, 8:14 AM |
Psalm 100 King James Version (KJV)
100 Make a joyful noise unto the Lord, all ye lands.
2 Serve the Lord with gladness: come before his presence with singing.
3 Know ye that the Lord he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.
4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
5 For the Lord is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
Re: Christianity Is Serious Business
|October 29 2014, 8:47 AM |
The Emotions of Jesus
by Wayne Jackson
In addition to possessing a divine nature, Jesus Christ was also flesh and blood (John 1:14), a human being. He thus shared with us the full range of human emotions. He could be happy or sad. What circumstances of life made our Lord weep? What made him joyful? A study of this theme is both thrilling and rewarding.
The Tears of Jesus
The book of Isaiah prophetically speaks of the Lord Jesus as “a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief” (53:3). Three times in the New Testament there is the record of Jesus weeping. Let us consider each of these.
Jesus wept for friends
John 11:35 poignantly states: “Jesus wept.” The Greek term for “wept” is dakruo, used only in this New Testament passage. It literally means “to shed tears.” It suggests a silent, tender weeping. The occasion of this touching scene is in connection with the death of Lazarus.
What precipitated the Master’s tears at this time? It was surely not the grief of hopelessness (cf. 1 Thessalonians 4:13) for Lazarus was in a better state of being. Nor was it a weeping of loneliness, for the Lord knew that his friend would be back with his family and associates presently.
Some have suggested that Jesus wept because he recognized he would be bringing Lazarus back to a life of hardship (cf. John 12:10). More likely, however, is the view which suggests that Christ wept out of pure sympathy for those whose hearts were breaking at this time. John writes:
“When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping who came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled, and said, Where have you laid him?” (11:33-34).
How comforting it is to know that our great High Priest really shares our feelings (cf. Hebrews 2:17). If we would be Christ-like, we must learn to truly empathize with others (cf. Romans 12:13).
Jesus wept over his enemies
When the Son of God contemplated the impending fate of his beloved Jerusalem, which was about to crucify him, he audibly wept (for so the Greek word klaio indicates) in genuine anguish (see Luke 19:41).
Without question, the Lord here evidenced great sorrow as he anticipated the horrors which would descend upon the rebellious Jews who were on the verge of murdering their own Messiah.
More tragic even than their physical suffering was the ultimate reception of the wrath of God as a consequence of their disobedience (Matthew 23:34-36; 1 Thessalonians 2:16). Truly, we too must grieve for the lost.
Jesus wept for himself
Though the Gospel accounts do not specifically mention it, another inspired writer indicates that Christ wept bitterly in those dark hours before the crucifixion (Hebrews 5:7). Perhaps his tears were for a lost humanity so oblivious to the tragedy about to be performed.
Likely, however, his weeping also reflected the dread of his holy soul as he contemplated bearing the consequence of sin upon the cursed tree (Galatians 3:13; Hebrews 12:2).
Maybe there was a connection between his tears and that agonizing cry from the cross, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (For a discussion of this passage see the printed Christian Courier, July 1988).
Did Jesus Ever Laugh?
Though the Scriptures nowhere speak of Jesus laughing, one should not adopt an unbalanced view of the Son of God by assuming that he was never happy.
There are several occasions in the Lord’s preaching ministry wherein a touch of humor was tucked away into his illustrations.
The allusion to attempting to remove a splinter from another’s eye, while a beam protrudes from one’s own eye (Matthew 7:4), and the reference to straining out a gnat, yet swallowing a camel (Matthew 23:24), are packed with humor.
In point of fact, though, the New Testament indicates that Christ “rejoiced” on several occasions. Let us consider this side of the Lord’s emotions for a moment.
Jesus rejoiced in saving people
In the parable of the lost sheep, when the concerned shepherd found his wayward lamb which had wandered from the flock, he carried it home on his shoulders, rejoicing. Moreover, he called together his friends and said, “Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost” (Luke 15:5-6).
It is scarcely necessary to emphasize that Jesus is the good Shepherd (John 10:11, 14), and that this narrative, therefore, reflects the Savior’s emotions when the lost return to the fold.
There is no greater sense of elation than seeing a doomed soul reclaimed from the eternal curse of sin.
Jesus rejoiced in victory over Satan
When the seventy disciples returned from a preaching mission and reported their success over Satanic forces, the Lord rejoiced (Luke 10:21).
Jesus rejoiced in fortifying the faith of his friends
Christ was glad (rejoiced) that his followers had the opportunity of seeing Lazarus raised from the dead that their faith might be increased (John 11:15).
It is interesting to note that the two references to Jesus’ emotions in John 11, have him both glad and sad on the same occasion—just twenty verses apart (vv. 15,35). Mourning can be transformed into happiness!
Jesus rejoiced in the anticipation of the resurrection
Jesus is represented as prophetically rejoicing in anticipation of his glorious resurrection from the dead (Psalm 16:9; cf. Acts 2:26). Again, we are reminded of Hebrews 12:2. Christ, “for the joy that was set before him endured the cross.”
In conclusion, it is interesting to note that the things which brought forth sadness or joy to the heart of our blessed Lord were not the mundane matters of this world, to which our emotions are generally tied. Rather, he operated upon a plateau that far transcends that which is characteristic of those who know only this earthly environment.
Perhaps our emotional emphases could stand some refinement.
Re: Lighten uo
|October 28 2014, 7:47 AM |
No Excuse Sunday
To make it possible for everyone to attend church this Sunday, we are going to have a special "No Excuse Sunday":
Cots will be placed in the foyer for those who say, "Sunday is my only day to sleep in."
There will be a special section with lounge chairs for those who feel that our pews are too hard.
Eye drops will be available for those with tired eyes from watching TV late Saturday night.
We will have steel helmets for those who say, "The roof would cave in if I ever came to church."
Blankets will be furnished for those who think the church is too cold, and fans for those who say it is too hot.
Scorecards will be available for those who wish to list the hypocrites present.
Relatives and friends will be in attendance for those who can't go to church and cook dinner, too.
We will distribute "Stamp Out Stewardship" buttons for those that feel the church is always asking for money.
One section will be devoted to trees and grass for those who like to seek God in nature.
Doctors and nurses will be in attendance for those who plan to be sick on Sunday.
The sanctuary will be decorated with both Christmas poinsettias and Easter lilies for those who never have seen the church without them.
We will provide hearing aids for those who can't hear the preacher and cotton wool for those who think he's too loud!
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Buffoons are MARKS of God's WRATH or ORGY
|October 25 2014, 11:33 PM |
All of he "progressive" always have a Minister of Buffoonery as a Way for your Escape. When God pours out punishment He also sends a swarm of musical performers which makes up to 2/3 of the straight shooters flee from their "investment" with the Lord. If they don't make the hair stand up on the back of your neck then you cannot blush and are ONE OF THEM. Jeff Walling is a new member of the Pepperdine COHORT and he was first EMERGED at Winterfest to "teach your youth to leave your movement" using lies and blasphemy.
Rick Atchley the head Buffoon in his stunning outfit with sweater vest holds a jubilating meeting debating the law of silence using three empty chairs. If that is not a Danger Will Robinson then don't expect any stronger.
Be careful there is a flock of vipers [winding, deceiving, spreading fire with music) in your congregation. Performance singers or players are also MOCKING you claiming that you need someone to lead you into the presence of God and pay them too.
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Re: Buffoons are MARKS of God's WRATH or ORGY
|October 26 2014, 9:58 AM |
Crump has too much time on his hands again.
Re: Buffoons are MARKS of God's WRATH or ORGY
|October 26 2014, 5:21 PM |
As I said, Jesus was never a "Christian comedian." He never had time on HIS hands to ridicule the Gospel and worship. Why should we?
Making Fun of God's GRACE
|October 27 2014, 7:46 PM |
Bill, I kinda understand where you are coming from. I find it very offensive when someone makes fun of God's GRACE.
All rhetoric, performance singing, playing instruments is COMEDY
|October 28 2014, 5:05 PM |
When people belittle the Word of God "as it has been taught or written" God causes wrath or ORGY to break out: Paul proves that was men without holy hands and women who caused the audience and all of the angels in heave to laugh in sore derision:
Sophocles, Oedipus Tyrannus
Soph. OT 873 Chorus
Insolence breeds the tyrant. Insolence, once vainly stuffed with wealth  that is not proper or good for it, when it has scaled the topmost ramparts, is hurled to a dire doom, where one's feet cannot serve to good advantage. But I pray that the god never  quell such rivalry as benefits the state. I will always hold the god as our protector.
Soph. OT 884 But if any man walks haughtily in deed or word,  with no fear of Justice, no reverence for the images of gods, may an evil doom seize him for his ill-starred pride, if he does not gain his advantage fairly,  or avoid unholy deeds, but seeks to lay profaning hands on sanctities. Where such things occur, what mortal shall boast any more that he can ward off the arrow of the gods from his life?  No. For if such deeds are held in honor, why should we join in the sacred dance
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|October 28 2014, 5:53 PM |
Does God's grace say that we need not have two parts of the Lord's Supper, that is bread and cup?
Would God's grace prove that patterning after the NT church is incorrect?
Does emphasis on grace diminish the need for holiness?
"Ole Blue Eyes"
|October 29 2014, 5:15 AM |
Scripture, first things first. What's in your pocket?
|October 30 2014, 11:56 AM |
Grace occurs in a variety of ways and is conditioned by man's response to it. Every covenant has obligations for each party. God is the party who imparts the forgiveness, man is the one who shows love to God and man and mercy to man. Those who pervert grace tend to say that God is the only responsible agent in the covenant, and that man is purely the recipient. Usually in fast-growth churches very little is said about man's obligations in the covenant with God. Theology become paper-thin.
Paul warns that a perversion of the grace doctrine can lead to antinomianism, the absence of law-consciousness. Romans 6.
The tunnel vision that attracts users to specific sentences in Ephesians 2 leads to the ignoring the statement in that very passage that we are God's "workmanship", created for good works.
I heard an elder psychologist argue with a sexologist preacher that there are no "rules" for the Christian. The sexologist preacher replied, "Thou shall not commit adultery."
The Churches of Christ of today are lacking a comprehensive explanation of the interplay between grace and works. Yet the Bible is full of teaching on these points. This sad state of affairs is fed by the ignorance of general Bible teaching, and verse by verse study.
We are also being affected greatly by the evangelical pressures around us.
|Cosby Christian |
|October 30 2014, 1:02 PM |
"Three preachers walk into a bar"...nevermind! Entering a no laugh zone! Scripture don't you have bigger "fish" to fry like a church that has no staff left and a weak eldership that has no clue how to fix the mess they have on their hands. That's no laughable matter ! Big picture, Scripture BIG picture.
|October 31 2014, 11:04 AM |
The church does have staff and they are continuing onward.
The elders are at an advantage they have not had in two decades, with far less division.
The wild broncos who left the carriage behind are elsewhere with very little guidance, and who knows where they go. They are wild broncos in that they wanted their will with little concern for the general body.
The big picture was composed of a bunch of fragmented and faulty underpictures which have flapped for decades.
Now we have a clearer picture.
The vision of the church before the separations was "we don't know what it [the church] will look like. We don't know what we will call it. Our opponents are BS." This was the statement of the elders via the pulpit previous to the separation. We don't blame all the elders for this inadvised statement, in that all were not pleased with it.
The three preachers are not to be mocked.
Re: Grace Unchained
|October 30 2014, 2:35 PM |
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Titus 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Titus 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Don't let those blue-eyed Blond Graces shed anything on you.
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Re: Grace Unchained
|October 30 2014, 2:47 PM |
The house cricket loses its will--and its-life-to the horsehair worm. Larvae of the parasiite infiltrate the cricket when it scavenges dead insects then grow inside it. The cricket is terrestrial but the adult stage of the worms' life cycle is aquatic. So when the mature worm is ready to emerge, it alters the brain of its hosts, driving the cricket to abandon the safety of land and take a suicidal leap into the nearest body of water. As the cricket drowns, an adult worm emerges, sometimes a foot in length.
Moral: don't eat dead worm guitar players, or cricket singers who may live on dead insects