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November 22 2014 at 10:35 PM
Ken Sublett  (Login Ken.Sublett)
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Tithing is lying is frying.

Well, I was finally forced to listen to David Young twisting Proverbs 3. Just as I expected, David went light on the need for everyone of us to look out for the poor but he ratcheted up in that intimidating style to insist that---

TITHING or giving 10 percent of your income as well as from your collected assets is God's MINIMUN standard.

IF you do not then you are ROBBING GOD. He infers from Malachi that means the working LAITY or DOMOS is implicated with robbery.

If you have 10 dollars in your purse when you die it will be a WITNESS against you.

This is not just a good thing to do escalating up to giving your transportation etal but is a SALVATION ISSUE.

The people operating the pitiful temple had to return to the farms because the priests were eating up the food. They had to be whipped into retuning to Jerusalem called Sodom.

David Young fails to read context and blasphemes God and accuses Him of fleecing the lambs. The priests got 10 percent of the 10 percent given after harvest at best 3 years out of a seven year cycle. No one reaped on the 7th year so lots of luck. What David Missed from the Spirit OF Christ. The Tithes were to provide food (onlY) when on rare rotating duty AT the temple (only) with a daily dole of food (only). No new motorcycles from the widow fleece.

The FOUNDATION in Malachi 3. Notice the evil of taking money from wages.

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David Young: North Boulevard Church of Christ

November 23 2014, 6:20 PM 

Blasphemy is so easy that God commanded that His Word supplies all that we need for life and godliness. Therefore, the command from the wilderness onward was to PREACH the Word by READING the Word. He understood that people given A holy spirit by request at baptism would be able to READ the Word to imbibe the mind or Spirit of God and prevent Dogma.

People who need VAST riches from the rich and widows have no interest or perhaps ability to just teach the facts about tithing without threatening people that not tithing to HIM is a salvation issue. There simply cannot be any redemption and the rise of the sophists: rhetoricians, singers and instrument players are the MARK of those who OUTED or exposed the ugliness of men gaining fame and fortune: God removes the lamps or seven spirits OF Christ all related to knowledge (Isaiah 11) at the same time the PERFORMERS are removed from His spiritual kingdom.

Here are a few facts about tithing: Notice the ways in which David Young is EXCLUDED unless he is a very old Levite abandoned to worship the starry hosts:

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November 27 2014, 12:15 PM 

"Tithing is lying is frying."

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Hephaestus, the Greek God of Fire.

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Ken, I like my eggs over easy. I'm sure you like yours scrambled.


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November 28 2014, 1:57 PM 

Traffic will pick up when everyone goes back to work :=)

In Egypt and at Mount Sinai the sun was worshipped under the names of Apollo. Moses uses the sentenced-into-Babylon word for APOLLO, Abaddon or Apollon. These were Genis and GENUN is a composite of Jubal, Jabal, Tubal-Cain and Naamah: they were all performers able to steal your lambs and sell them back to you: like worship teams.

After the fall from Grace at Mount Sinai and God warned about going back to Egypt and promised to send them back to Babylon, Moses wrote a retrospective but inverted account of the "worship" to which God abandoned the Jews specificially at Jerusalem which was Hagar, Mount Sinai, Bondage and Sodom.

The CAIN part of Tubal-Cain is from a musical note or mark. Cain means a "smith" derived from a musical note or mark discovered by anvil sounds.

His name in the Egyptian-Greek world which defined the FALL of the Jews and therefore part of Moses' present and prophetic warning affirmed when the Jews would be blind and deaf until Jesus ANOTHER PROPHET came: the Shiloh Jacob warned about when commanding that people not enter into covenant with or assemble (synagogue) with the Levi tribe.

As a note of Strong Delusions forcing Lying Wonders we have looked at the Tithe commanded by Madison, North Boulevard etal as a THREAT. The other is to use the Jacob-Cursed Levites (Egyptian infant BURNERS) as their only possible PATTERN for "worship singers" with or without instruments.

Tubal-Cain is Hephaestus and considered the inventor of percussion instruments.

Gen. 4:21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all those who play [psallo] the lyre and pipe.

The pipe is an organ as in "making love" and Play or handle points to "in a sexual sense."

Gen. 4:22 Zillah also bore Tubal-cain; he was the forger of all instruments of bronze and iron. The sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.

The hebrew name for WEAPON is the same as for a MUSICAL INSTRUMENT.

The instrument of Tubal-Cain is:

Bronze: from "a sense of ringing, that is, bell metal; or from the red color of the throat of a serpent

This also connects to the serpent as a musical enchanter or SERPO used of a winding stream, a winding form of singing-playing (enchantment) or a "slowly spreading fire."

Most "instruments" as weapons--machines for doing hard work mostly in making war--set the voodoo beat (affirmed by musicologists): guitars are like tuned percussion instruments, don't play a melody and therefore impose another act to keep your brain confused: dumb before the slaughter. The Lifeless Instrument of Paul was also a Carnal Weapon pointing to the Hoplites setting up a panic beat with their swords upon their bronze shields.

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November 30 2014, 6:01 PM 

Tithing is an Old Testament concept. The tithe was a requirement of the Law in which the Israelites were to give 10 percent of the crops they grew and the livestock they raised to the tabernacle/temple (Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5). In fact, the Old Testament Law required multiple tithes—one for the Levites, one for the use of the temple and the feasts, and one for the poor of the land—which would have pushed the total to around 23.3 percent. Some understand the Old Testament tithe as a method of taxation to provide for the needs of the priests and Levites in the sacrificial system.

The New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends, that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. The New Testament nowhere designates a percentage of income a person should set aside, but only says gifts should be “in keeping with income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Some in the Christian church have taken the 10 percent figure from the Old Testament tithe and applied it as a “recommended minimum” for Christians in their giving.

The New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the church. Every Christian should diligently pray and seek God’s wisdom in the matter of participating in tithing and/or how much to give (James 1:5). Above all, all tithes and offerings should be given with pure motives and an attitude of worship to God and service to the body of Christ. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7).

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November 30 2014, 7:49 PM 


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November 30 2014, 8:29 PM 

. In fact, the Old Testament Law required multiple tithes—one for the Levites, one for the use of the temple and the feasts, and one for the poor of the land—which would have pushed the total to around 23.3 percent. Some understand the Old Testament tithe as a method of taxation to provide for the needs of the priests and Levites in the sacrificial system.

I don't believe that is correct: You give first fruits (a sampler) when you harvest. You give a tithe of your INCREASE (profit) when you drive the lambs to be counted. You just get one Profit-only only once a year and the IRS just takes from your profit once a year.

If you read carefully

Only 3 or 4 out of a seven-year cycle went to the Levites as in the IRS. They gave a tenth of that tenth to the priests to make animal slaughter. Preachers beyond teaching the Word claim the "priestly" role accepting a wage because obviously the laity cannot read the text. So, unless they want us to call them hypocrites they must accept 10 percent of the 4/7 of the PROFIT from a farm-only stolen from a poor Baptist. WORSE YET: the individual preacher gets that only on a rotating basis.

The festivals were "musters" for warrior aged males: they could convert their tithe into money "Lay by him" (Jim lays by Jim and not David) and take it to by wine and strong drink for himself and the Levites who were "poor."

Another tithe was stored up on the farmer's property to feed the poor.

There was no harvest on the 7th year of the cycle so the tithe and offering fleecers will just have to starve for that year.

The different tithes did not get collected on the same years.

It all went to feed the POOR (priests and levites got no free farms stolen from the poor owners).

The Temple (not commanded) staff got a daily dole of food (only) when on rotating duty and could not leave the "church house."

So if these banditos want to follow the pattern they must lock themselves up inside the gates of the "holy" precincts and get one issue of food a day.

When he is not on duty and wants a new chariot he, like all people, gets a job making tents or shoes or furniture.

Because there are no priests, modern Jews involved in FOOD in some way give 1 percent to the poor. If they claim that it goes to God they must burn it. John Mark Hicks says of the Lord's Supper, "God FEASTS with us while we burn the fat with great jubilation."

I think he is thinking of Beelzebub "lord of the flies" who hoovered around the sacrifices.

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