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Ken Sublett
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Jude thought so: Enoch is quoted at least 128 times in the NT

May 16 2015, 8:42 PM 

ALL of the Scriptures use the pagan writers as the OPPOSITE of what God brings to the LITTLE FLOCK. My doctor doesn't call it flustered but I will expand in a few days.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares,
.....who were before of old ordained to this condemnation,
.....ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness,
.....and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they
.....have gone in the way of Cain, and [Cain is derived from a musical note or MARK]
.....ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and
.....perished in the gainsaying of Core.

Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you,
.....feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water,
.....carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit,
.....twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea,
.....foaming out their own shame; wandering stars,
.....to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam,
.....prophesied of these, saying,
.....Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Jude 1:15 To execute judgment upon all,
.....and to convince all that are ungodly [irreverent] among them
.....of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed,
.....and of all their hard speeches
.....which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Jude 1:16 These are
.....murmurers,
.....complainers,
.....walking after their own lusts; and
.....their mouth speaketh great swelling [burdensome] words,
.....having men's persons in admiration
.....because of advantage.

Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words
.....which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Jude 1:18 How that they told you
.....there should be mockers [musical-sexual play] in the last time,
.....who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Jude thought so: Enoch is quoted at least 128 times in the NT

September 30 2015, 8:44 PM 

All or close to it have hired men to "transistion" conservative preachers into the NACC or the Instrumental Music Sect. Bloggers and Preachers blanket the internet mocking those who refuse to BOW and add instruments. Not many have fallen but every few days someone had decided that God commanded musical instruments.

We have shown that

The MARK is singing and playing instruments or drama in religious obversations to which Jesus said the Kingdom does not come.

The BEAST is "a new style of music or Satyric (cappella) drama."

The SIGN are songs accompanying STRIKING THE FLAG OF THE EKKLESIA. The LAMPS are removed by Jesus at the same time the Hypocritic Mockers at Feasts are removed from The Church of Christ: they may not have any choice when they rush to REMOVE the mane of Christ from their sign out front saying that it offends people. The Book of Enoch as well as the Bible says "the have fallen and can never get back up."

And those PREDESTINED FROM OLD called SORCERERS meaning speakers, singers or instrument players will be CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

AND using the historic GUILT CLAUSE people border on being borderline screaming that we just speak what the BIBLE and recorded history says about MUSIC from mystery (perverted) or Wrath "making the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

We cannot blame them: I can almost feel their pain but they are ACTING OUT a predestined role of those OF THE WORLD or the ECUMENICAL for whom Jesus refuses to pray or speak in a language they can understand. But you are WRITTEN ON PAGES OF PROPHECY BEGINNING WITH CLAY TABLETS and we gotta do what we gotta do knowing that no one CAN repent or accept the Biblical and historical connection of instrumental worship with the DEVIL: The Spirit OF Christ calls him-her-it the "Singing and harp-playing prostitute" in the garden of Eden. Jesus calls her the Babylon Mother of Harlots: she uses lusted after fruits (same as in Amos 8) as ANY religious craftsman from making silver idols to making worship-team idols as the TRUMPET SOUND now probably heard round the World.

 
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Donnie Cruz
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Re: Concerned Members: What We Believe

May 15 2015, 4:18 AM 

Indeed, this is a challenging thread! Since this is a religious discussion forum, it would benefit our learning of God's truth by dealing with other topical Bible studies and questions that we haven't covered yet. We can use this thread as our INDEX by providing a link or links to a particular doctrinal topic.

Let me begin this process by asking this thought-provoking question: Does the Christian have and enjoy everlasting life NOW? Or, is everlasting life an inheritance or a promise or a reward to the Christian who has persevered and remained faithful to the end?

Here's a link:


Does the Christian Have Everlasting Life NOW?



 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Concerned Members: What We DON'T Believe

May 23 2015, 10:11 PM 

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Layman
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Relax and Let Pan Play for You

June 13 2015, 10:29 PM 

This one is for Ken!

scrubbed, scrubbed, scrubbed in that order: pretty vile.


    
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Re: Relax and Let Pan Play for You

June 15 2015, 12:05 PM 

Ken, you seem to have a bad case of the red ...

I'll give you a few days to recover. happy.gif



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Let's continue the discussion ... seriously.


    
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TOPIC: Does the Christian Have Everlasting Life NOW?

June 15 2015, 10:54 PM 

Earlier I posed a question: Does the Christian have and enjoy everlasting life NOW? Or, is everlasting life an inheritance or a promise or a reward to the Christian who has persevered and remained faithful to the end?

I also promised to compile two columns of passages that favor either: (1) NOW or (2) IN THE FUTURE, and use the compilation as a basis for our discussion/study.

I have completed the compilation.

Here's a link:


Does the Christian Have Everlasting Life NOW?


 
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Ken Sublett
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Revelation by A Holy Spirit: this is PAST TENSE. Part A

September 15 2015, 1:54 PM 

We have discussed what GOD means based on clear definitions in Scripture and most Pre-LU theology.

Scripture is now defined by how the olden text is changed by human evolution and its culture. It is fine to believe that if you wish. However, A Church of Christ (ekklesia) is commanded to Assemble (synagogue) ONCE EACH REST DAY. The Purpose Driven Church listened--by commanded pattern--to that which is written for our learning. The Lord's Supper is the "softening up" remembrance that Jesus paid it all by dying. For any disciple that gives Him the only role when the APT elders "teach that which has been written" and expose and reject those who oppose "that which has been taught." Judgment comes easy if you speak the same things by speaking the text. That text is the POWER or SPIRIT of God transferred to the rare disciple with A holy spirit or mind.

Thomas Campbell: "who, at the same time are ignorant of, and even averse to, the religion it inculcates; and whilst others profess to embrace it as a system of religion,

without imbibing the spirit, realizing the truth, and experiencing the power of its religious institutions; but merely superstruct to themselves, rest in, and are satisfied with, a form (acts) of godliness; and that, very often, a deficient, imperfect form, or such as their own imagination has devised;


For those who think that their "evil imagination" is a holy spirit person speaking or appearing to them in a vision.

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A Sectarian or Heretic uses Music to Steal Part B

September 15 2015, 6:10 PM 

Madison was SECTARIANIZED AWAY by boasting of infiltrating and diverting Madison into a "theater for holy entertainment." The result is that they intentionally sow discord and defend thousands all built upon lies and fables. David Young from one of my old diverted investments always wanted to reproduce the madness of Cane Ridge which before and after fits the pattern of witchcraft as it spewed out of Salem. He believes that a "worship service" should include singing, playing, shouthing, clapping, hugging and kissing. He says that a worship service should produce SHOCK AND AWE. Scriptures insist that we come before Him in silence and listen to HIM because GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE.

The self pleasure Paul absolutely stops is the Greek Areskos or Latin Placeo: this involved any and all of the hypocritic arts and crafts which create mental excitement. It reproaces Christ all over which means "to expose His nakedness." Don't they want to hug and kiss and sit in His lap and even DANCE with Him is song and sermon

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There is no expectation that any will affirm the quoted text and see it as "clinical insanity." That's the predestined fate of the MASSES who are OF this world and will never give God the honor of reading His messages to us in context.


    
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Myths have Consumed Ken

September 15 2015, 10:23 PM 


Not Afraid to ASK?
9/15/2015, 10:22 PM




Ken, you stated that The Book of Enoch should be read for a better understanding of the Bible. Would you also suggest reading pagan mythology for a better understanding of the Bible?

It is my observation that you quote more mythology when you are flustered or perturbed. Could you please explain?



 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: What I Believe: Jesus defines a SECTARIAN part A + B

September 15 2015, 11:06 PM 

Jude and most of the New Testament writers read The Book of Enoch and quoted it about 128 times. If you don't know how to smell a copperhead you will get a viper bite. I'm not consumed with copperheads, but I watch my step. I can find the "progressives" with feminist leaders and a tripple goddess on clay tablets up to 2,000 years before Moses was born. They have been unleashed in Revelation 17f.

This post will prove that YOU and YOURN are consumed with Jewish Fables and sell them at Retail.

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That reminds me that the LAW OF LAYING BY IN STORE at church instead of BY HIM is a Christian Fable so that John Calvin asked "Why should the plowing oxen starve while the lazy asses be fed." Did I tell you that got me "BLACKBALLED" at old faith site or one of those early forums?


    
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Ken Sublett
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Re: What I Believe: Jesus defines a SECTARIAN part A + B

September 16 2015, 2:40 PM 

Isn't it amazingly amazing that at just at the right time c. ad 2000 all of the once Christian Universities were infiltrated and diverted by the Instrumental Sectarians and everyone seems "dumb before the slaughter." It really has always worked: if you want to subvert the laws of a republic, says Plato, you must first change the style of theater and music: at first says Plato, "we are just having fun."

And a band of bloggers carried the attack world wide--at just the right time--and Revelation 17-up to the BURNING of the Sorcerers meaning all religious craftsmen: speakers, singers, instrument players all hypocrites says Jesus.

And, the treachery is so audacious and anti-Biblical that the stunned people OF the World cannot believe it.

They all lie about "a" spirit commanding their treachery but we have noted that God makes His SPIRIT His breath which delivers words, the Logos or regulative principle.

Pick This: Spiritus is the Breath of God.
Or Pick This: Spiritus personified is:
II. A. (Class.) A haughty spirit, haughtiness, pride, arrogance; also, spirit, high spirit, energy, courage
spiritum Phoebus [Apollon] mihi, Phoebus artem Carminis [singing and playing] dedit, poetic spirit or inspiration

Liv. 24 22 Demarata, the daughter of Hiero, still swelling with the pride of royalty and female presumption, called him out from the presence of the ambassadors, and reminded him of the expression so often repeated by the tyrant Dionysius, that a man ought only to relinquish sovereign power when dragged by the feet, and not while sitting on horseback

The Dionysus clergy at Sinai and Against Jesus PIPED hoping that he would "lament and dance." That was the initiation into the always-gay priesthood. Jesus did not bow and consigned them to the marketplace where they could buy young boys and wine.

“filia Hieronis, inflata adhuc regiis animis ac muliebri spiritu,” Liv. 24, 22:

Filia daughter
Inflo: blow upon anything, blow air, B. In partic., to play upon a wind instrument: “inflare cavas cicutas
mŭlĭĕbris: B. In a reproachful sense, womanish, effeminate, unmanly: to let one's self be used as a woman,

The Spirit OF Christ laid it out clearly in Isaiah 3 and Jesus told John how it would PLAY OUT just before the speakers, singers and instrument players (that effeminate MARK) will be CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

The PLAY at Sinai was instrumental-trinitarian-sexual. See Romans 1 if you never heard it at college or church.

http://www.piney.com/Romans.1.html

That is why so many of the congregation ran for their lives to be replaced by the foolish who LOVE to be fooled because they are OF the world order.

The task of Apollon who was king of the locusts or leader of the Muses (dirty adulteresses) whose task is to SEPARATE the grain from the chaff: the baptism of FIRE means to heap up the chaff and burn it.

The band plays on and the masses of people just nod in the noonday sun: that is the meaning of the LOCUSTS so once you have been lulled they give you the sting of death. The stinger might be a plektr OURLAWED by the Psallo CODE word.

Euripides complains that his rival's Chorus used to inflict on the audience four strings of lyric verse, one after another, while the actors were silent

God protected the Little Flock or the SECT that is called the WAY by providing not one verse of lyric poetry to be sung to the lyre or harp. And they SIMONIZE the young preachers by saying that GOD COMMANDS INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC. They are right: they just worship the wrong gods as the Jews worshipped using the principle of APOLLYON. Worship of Stars and Fires.

Defining the BEAST

In satyric drama the Chorus wore a closefitting dress (sômation) representing the naked form, with a short apron (or girdle) of goat's skin.

And the MARK of the BEAST (a new style of music or Satyric drama) has made response impossible.


 
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Ken Sublett
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Myths have Consumed Ken

September 17 2015, 7:32 PM 



Ken said,

"Ken doesn't get flustered: he gets even!!"


Ken, have you praised your "enabler" (Donnie)? You get to post what ever you want. You get to delete and modify as you want. You never lasted very long at GCM. Do you have any anything good to say about your "enabler"?

 
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Myths have Consumed Ken

September 18 2015, 5:42 PM 



Itching Ears






2 Timothy 4:3-4 ESV / 12 helpful votes

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.


2 Timothy 4:3 ESV / 12 helpful votes

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,


1 John 4:1 ESV / 5 helpful votes

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.


2 Timothy 4:1-22 ESV / 5 helpful votes

I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. ...


2 Timothy 3:5 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.


Romans 1:25 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.


Acts 17:11 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.


2 Timothy 4:2-4 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.


2 Timothy 4:1-5 ESV / 3 helpful votes

I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.


2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ESV / 3 helpful votes

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.


Acts 16:1-40 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Paul came also to Derbe and to Lystra. A disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a Jewish woman who was a believer, but his father was a Greek. He was well spoken of by the brothers at Lystra and Iconium. Paul wanted Timothy to accompany him, and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those places, for they all knew that his father was a Greek. As they went on their way through the cities, they delivered to them for observance the decisions that had been reached by the apostles and elders who were in Jerusalem. So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and they increased in numbers daily. ...


John 3:3 ESV / 3 helpful votes

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”


Matthew 23:23 ESV / 3 helpful votes

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.


1 John 5:7 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For there are three that testify:


2 Peter 1:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.


Hebrews 10:26 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,


Galatians 5:19-21 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.


2 Corinthians 12:9 ESV / 2 helpful votes

But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me.


2 Corinthians 11:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For I feel a divine jealousy for you, since I betrothed you to one husband, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ.


1 Corinthians 6:19-20 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.


1 Corinthians 6:19 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,


1 Corinthians 6:18 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.


1 Corinthians 6:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

“Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food”—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.


1 Corinthians 6:9 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,


1 Corinthians 3:1-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes

But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human? What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. ...


1 Corinthians 1:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes

I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.


Romans 10:17 ESV / 2 helpful votes

So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.


Romans 6:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes

By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?


Romans 1:1-32 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, which he promised beforehand through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh and was declared to be the Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations, ...


Acts 16:31 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”


Acts 4:12 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”


Acts 1:1-26 ESV / 2 helpful votes

In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach, until the day when he was taken up, after he had given commands through the Holy Spirit to the apostles whom he had chosen. He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God. And while staying with them he ordered them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise of the Father, which, he said, “you heard from me; for John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” ...


John 14:26 ESV / 2 helpful votes

But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.


John 8:32 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”


John 3:20 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.


John 3:16 ESV / 2 helpful votes

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.


Luke 16:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”


Matthew 24:35 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.


Matthew 16:26 ESV / 2 helpful votes

For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?


Matthew 11:28 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


Matthew 7:21-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’


Matthew 6:33 ESV / 2 helpful votes

But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.


Matthew 6:24 ESV / 2 helpful votes

“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.


Matthew 5:28 ESV / 2 helpful votes

But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Matthew 5:27-28 ESV / 2 helpful votes

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Matthew 4:17 ESV / 2 helpful votes

From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”


Joel 2:28 ESV / 2 helpful votes

“And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions.


Jeremiah 5:30-31 ESV / 2 helpful votes

An appalling and horrible thing has happened in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes?


Isaiah 2:1-22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established as the highest of the mountains, and shall be lifted up above the hills; and all the nations shall flow to it, and many peoples shall come, and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob, that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths.” For out of Zion shall go the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide disputes for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore. O house of Jacob, come, let us walk in the light of the Lord. ...


Leviticus 20:13 ESV / 2 helpful votes

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.


Leviticus 18:22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.


Genesis 6:1-22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown. The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. ...


Genesis 4:1-26 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, “I have gotten a man with the help of the Lord.” And again, she bore his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground. In the course of time Cain brought to the Lord an offering of the fruit of the ground, and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell. ...


    
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Re: Myths have Consumed Ken

September 20 2015, 2:41 PM 


Isaiah 2:1-22 ESV The WORD that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
It shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the house of the Lord [The asssembly of Christ]
shall be established as the highest of the mountains, and shall be lifted up above the hills;
and all the nations shall flow to it, and many peoples shall come,
And say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,
to the house OF THE God of Jacob,
that HE may teach us HIS ways
and that WE may walk in HIS paths.”


The WAY of the SECT is the ROAD or PATH which is extremely narrow and onl a little flock of lost sheep will hear the voicle of JESUS and leap to be baptized" into that spiritual and invisible kingdom. His ways are what GOD speaks through his prophets--never priests or scribes.

True Disciples go to Bible class: mythmongers will OFFER you several styles of "worship services."
Jesus won't be there: He will be OUTSIDE suffering the REROACHES going on in the WORSHIP CENTER
Disciples can HEAR the invitation to come outside and LEARN OF ME.

The Doctrine of Christ is THAT WHICH Jesus taught. Notice that the WORD or LOGOS is a people only in myth whichh was the REAL worship of the Greeks and everyone. The PAGAN logos was Hermes, Mercury or Kairos the demon son of Zeus. Their worship leader was Apollon and his worship team were the Locusts or MUSES. They were prostitutes defines anyone who sells any body part in the name of a "god."

For out of Zion shall go the law, and the WORD of the Lord FROM Jerusalem.
He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide disputes for many peoples;


The WORD or Logos or Regulative principle was MANIFEST in that which Jesus SPOKE where speak is the OPPOSITE of ODE. The Laws of Christ are compared to the WORD of Christ and do remember that OF is a preposition. You may have to be deprogrammed if the scholars "learned" you

The Progressives who say "we gonna upset your comfort zones" but we gonna do it gradually so you frogs don't jump before you are boiled.

The Progressives boast of making "worship wars" and telling any one who questions the vipers to get over it or get out: that is a MARK to just get out. 2/3 of the local sheep jumped rather than be fleeced to the "sounds of rushing waters."

and they shall beat their SWORDS into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks;
nation shall not lift up SWORD against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.
O house of Jacob, come, let us walk in the LIGHT of the Lord. ...


Jesus said that He was LIGHT in the same sense of WORD: Neither Light nor Word are members of an always pagan trinity.

When someone says "let the light shine" the progressives TURN on the team turning tricks on route 666.


    
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Response to List reposted Part A.

September 23 2015, 3:08 PM 

Without exception the "progressives" resetting to BC 4000 and Babylon claim that there is NO pattern: no Commands for what an ekklesia assembled as a synagogue is suppose to do. The church or synagogue or church in the wilderness OUTLAWED vocal or instrumental rejoicing or rhetoric made up of blasphemy claiming to speak FOR God. Here it is: it is a one piece pattern since the Lord's Supper is a memorial setting the stage for the silence of male and female "so that we might all come to a knowledge of the truth." The synagogue had a president whose task was to READ the word OVERSEEING it so that no one added or removed anything from the Holy Scriptures to us the Prophets and Apostles.

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Sectarian? They use music to STEAL your church

September 24 2015, 4:28 PM 

One of my first and best works was stolen for the INSTRUMENTALIST'S use. The preacher threatened the congregation that if they didn't VOTE to abrogate the will of the founders, they could be taken to court and charged with being SECTARIANS if they didn't vote for the TAKING TO LAW new bylaws PERMITTING instruments: Mama played piano, father played banjo, son played guitar. That was SEATTLE and Milton Jones.

If people will infiltrate with the VANGUARD purpose to take over the congregation by lying about God and to God, they will do you harm if they thought they could get by with it: and it happened two more times by liars who NATURALLY, are defined as THE SECTARIANS OR HERETICS. A heretic in all sacrificial worship services "lifted up the lamb to cut its throat while the Musicians called the PARASITES "made the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

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Sectarian.Heretic.CMB

October 1 2015, 11:31 AM 

BEEN THERE and BEEN DONE three times. Wow! that makes me and thee dumber than an earthworm.


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October 1 2015, 12:05 PM 

Rubel Shelly working with the NACC began their SECTARIANIZATION attacks c 1984. He said that the best way to restructure Churches of Christ should follow the Aztec pattern. They had a 52 year (Jubilee) and a 52 week cycle of BURNING DOWN everyone's house. They saved up one slave for a year giving hime all of the music and girls he could tolerate. At the end of the year they cut out his heart and ate it and tossed his dead body down the steps to a Tower of Babel like pyramid after lighting a new fire in his chest. Houses (congregations) were rebuilt and runners took the NEW FIRE and relit them all. That is the meaning of ANATHEMA where anyone devoted to serve or enhance a "holy place" could NOT be redeemed and must be BURNED. That is why the MARK of burning are performance preachers for hire, singers and instrument players.

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