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Madison as the ROOT of the JUBILEE movement. HIEROPHANTS of the MOTHER

August 7 2015 at 11:16 PM
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If you kill poison ivy the ROOTS will remain and get you if you fondle garden soil. If you want to understand the end time tribulation by enemies of your own house (church) you have to dig up the roots.

Madison and Steve Flatt gave BIRTH to all of the discord beginning OVERTLY in 1984 but covertly when the Stone-Campbell movement was begun after the NACC was sected out of the Disciples finally in 1971. By 1994 which was answering the Pope's call for Jubilee 2000 the prophesied great tribulation, Rubel Shelly and Woodmont as the LU pattern:

On April 10, 1994, the Woodmont Hills Church of Christ had a joint worship service with six denominational groups: Woodmont Christian Church, Woodmont Baptist, Calvary United Methodist, Covenant Presbyterian, Saint Paul Southern Methodist and Trinity Presbyterian. At the worship service Rubel Shelly in his sermon embraced the entire group as Christians and said that all of them should come together as the army of God. Rubel then took the position that what makes us Christians and enables us to have fellowship is faith in the resurrection.

Rubel Shelly commented "The devil cannot like what's happening tonight." In essence Rubel was saying that when the churches of Christ object to denominationalism, infant baptism, instrumental music, neglect of the Lord's Supper, human creeds, doctrine of salvation without baptism etc.,

This is a local continuing matter of discord. Rubel and all professional theologians say that Paul had decided to PREACH JUST JESUS AND HIM CRUCIFIED. God pokes your eyes out when you presume to take the role-as shelly boasted--of Christ for his generation. Paul determined to KNOW only a crucified Christ. He MARKS that path as obeying the command to GO, suffer and die. Remember: in unity and diversity Paul did warn about a bad degree from a defunct university: He warned that LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE. in Revelation 18 John calls the musicians SORCERERS. That's why you cannot worry too much that they are sent into HELL to the accompaniment of wind, string and percussion instruments. Christ in Isaiah 30.

Strange: The Spirit of Christ and all historical views is the Devil imposed instruments as the singing and harp-playing prostitute in the garden of Eden.

INTRODUCTION AND EXPLANATION The elders have asked me [Steve Flatt] to speak about the Nashville Jubilee. I am putting the substance of this sermon in written form and handing it out to the congregation in order to make sure everyone understands what I am saying and also provide a source for future study of these mat ters. I invite your careful attention to the following material

Origin of Jubliee -

"Three and one-half years ago, the idea was borne. I was having coffee with J. D. Elliott and Bobby McElhiney, two wonderful shepherds at Madison...And then came the idea. Why doesn't Nashville, with scores of thousands of Christians living in this area have a grand celebration of Christian living every year

... The idea went before the ministers and elders at Madison where it was met with unbounded enthusiasm. But what about a name? We wanted some thing happy, upbeat, and with a feeling of praise After dozens of suggestions

'Jubilee' seemed to fit. Next came the question of over sight. The Madison elders were happy to supervise the first Jubilee and to have that responsibility every third year. Invitations were extended to the Antioch and Woodmont Hills congregations to provide leadership responsibility on the same rotating basis.The first Jubilee was held in July 1989 and each summer since.

ALL of the elders at the time signed a later defense of Jubilee: Note: Jubal or Jubilee was the FATHER (dna) of all of those who handle musical instruments. That means without authority and in a sexual context.

The SPEAKERS for the first Jubilee PROVES what one of the early organizers confessed to me: "they plan to do an END RUN AROUND THE OLDER GENERATION."

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August 8 2015, 8:29 AM 

It works for football, did it work in this instance? Lots of football teams still like the play. Great play....get that runner to the outside so he can get free. If he hollers let em go. Got to get the tackles to pull if you want to get the runner free. Know what I mean?

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August 8 2015, 1:08 PM 

When the Jews rose up in play meaning playing instruments and playing with one another God CUT THEM FREE. The final termination came when they did not repent but the elders hired a SENIOR PASTOR to silence the Judges and Prophets and to lead them into hell to the beat of wind, string and percussion instruments. They were so free that God said that He would not hear their cries.

We link some of Jay Guinn from the new winskinners

If you want your team to win--and the musicators who originally deflated the ball are about the only ones who have been PREDOOMED to impose at least token kicking machines. Like the musical prophecy about Judas, when Jesus flashed the SOP meaning PSALLO brand, the devil CAME INTO him and he fell like Jezebel and the dogs (smile) licked up their blood. The original team

Jeff Walling
Rubel Shelly
Rick Atchley
Max Lucado

So, since Churches of Christ have been BLINDED to the facts as the "serpos" claim, we need to get back to basics while they continue to be "consumed by the breath [spirit]of their own mouths."

One of the Instrumentalists laments that "destroying the plant by taking an axe to its roots didn't work. Now, we have to PRUNE one branch at a time."

For those hippies being replaced by new players OUTSIDE OF THE CAMP, the basics begin with "THIS THINGY IS A FOOTBALL."

Bless yore heart, I know that Jesus didn't say "thou shalt NOT toss a POM POM."

Steve Flatt and Jeff Walling are still up to their old TRICKS.

Without ANY exception all of the proof texts used by O.E.Payne who prevented the Christian Churches from going all the way are still used by those with a HIDDEN AGENDA. ALL of the proof texts point to older men PLUCKING the harp embarassingly seeking to seduce a younger male. Alexander the Great died of some horrible disease called a PLAGUE in Revelation. A plague can be a weeping sore or PLAUGING a musical instrument. ALL musical terms SCREAM OUT LOUD that you are under attack.

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August 8 2015, 1:59 PM 

They claim that you are ENSLAVED by legalistic, sectarian, patternists, hypocrites, bombers of abortion clinics.

However, if you join our Community Church translate COMMUNE we will use your-now-or money to SAVE MORE SOULS: we will hire you a worship minister to lead you into the presence of God and let them stand in the holy place being worshipped. That liberates you. We can even sing, hum, pluck, or clap to liberate YOUR from mediation. We will hire masses of STAFF to make certain that you have a meeting to attend after work on friday.

2Pet. 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

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August 8 2015, 11:37 PM 

Dave says: "I am FREEEEEEEEE. ... Know what I mean?"

I don't know what you mean, Dave. Be specific. Are you saying: Goodbye to our Restoration forefathers and the New Testament principles ... and welcome to the change agents and their liberal, progressive schemes to restructure the NT church and modify (modernize) its teachings?

If not, please explain what you're free of or free from.

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August 11 2015, 12:33 PM 

What is happening in the Middle East is repeating a cycle: After the fall into musical idolatry at Mount Sinai, Moses wrote a corrected version written on clay tablets and well known by the early Hebrews. As close to BC 4000 as you can get the same "viper race" attacked the early civilizations and brought darknesss (ignorance) and vanity: the senior preaching person as the agent of the gods at the towers of Babylon (reproduced in Jerusalem) ordained the Sabbath and Tithe: everything was owned or "transistioned as the NACC says" and to be LED INTO THE PRESENCE OF THE GODS you had to bring your tithes and offerings in: you had to support the king's (gods) priests, soothsayers, cookes, praise singers, exorcists and prostitutes.

As close to they year ad2000 the Circle was REJOINED and those elders, preachers and even doctors turned and became "enemies of your own house or church." You have to feed the SAME group: the Levites performed as soothsayer-sorcerers and there is a huge STAFF: Rick Atchley began with a PYRAMID as his organization chart with him setting on the point naturally.

"Jingling, banging, and rattling accompanied heathen cults, and the frenzying shawms of a dozen ecstatic cries intoxicated the masses. Amid this euphoric farewell feast of a dying civilization, the voices of nonconformists were emerging from places of Jewish and early Christian worship ..." (Encyclopaedia Judaica, 1971 ed., s.v. "Music")

"Based on the concept of an organic pattern in the life course of civilization, a morphology of history: the idea that every culture has its period of youth, its period of culmination, its years then of beginning to totter with age and of striving to hold itself together by means of rational planning, projects, and organization, only finally to terminate in decrepitude, petrification... and no more life. Moreover, in this view of Spengler's, we were at present on the point of passing from what he called the period of Culture to Civilization, which is to say, from our periods of youthful, spontaneous, and wonderful creativity to those of uncertainty and anxiety, contrived programs, and the beginning of the end." (Campbell, Joseph, Myths to Live By, p. 84)

The explosion of professional musicians has been the major purveyor of corrupt "education" and has wholly corrupted those now picking your mother's purse "cause we gonna save more souls."

As noted earlier, the PRAISE SINGERS (always women) were religious musicians CONDUCTING DEFUNCT SPIRITS INTO HELL. Jesus cast them out like dung.

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Praise Singers: Religious Musicians

August 12 2015, 2:56 AM 

The "College of Bible and Ministry" in our Christian colleges and universities now offers an "Interdisciplinary Major in Worship Ministry" (B.A. degree program). Other offers:

(2) Theology and Ministry Major - Children’s Ministry Concentration

(3) Theology and Ministry Major - Youth Ministry Concentration

Now we know more about the church's staff infection. What is the average "SALARY" of a fully EMPLOYED "Worship Minister"? Looks like the apostles and early Christians missed such employment opportunities in synagogue worship?

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Re: Praise Singers: Religious Musicians

August 12 2015, 11:44 AM 

I believe that it was Jeanene P Reese Theology of Women Teachers

Who said that they would train (manufacture) so many women "ministers" that churches would be FORCED to accept them. 4th avenue took one of them as a Lipscomb Intern just as they TOOK that historic building in Franklin. Lipscomb has their own dominant "mother."

Reese says: Jesus freed males from the role of domination that belongs to the fallen WORLD, in order that they can be truly male. On behalf of women Jesus acted as the model human standing against the patriarchal system, bringing women into the new order where sex distinctions no longer determine rank and worth.

This new paradigm, however, has not always been realized. From mainline Protestant churches to obscure fundamentalist groups [Churches of Christ], from Roman Catholics to Pentecostals, Christians for the past two thousand years have dealt with men and women of all ages, classes, and ethnicity who struggle with issues of the NEW order.

Reece says that as HELPER a directive that “counteracts a patriarchal culture, which would command the wife instead.” Evans notes that the word “cleave” used in Gen 2:24 “is used almost universally for a WEAKER cleaving to a stronger.

Adam was to be Eve's
h5828. ezer, ay´-zer; from 5826; aid:—help. 5826. {azar, aw-zar´; a primitive root; to surround, i.e. protect or aid:—help, succour.
h5826. azar, aw-zar´; a primitive root; to surround, i.e. protect or aid:—help, succour.

The Dominant females being professors and WIVES of Presidents removing the Church of Christ Connection intimidates any rare male from crossing her. The-mothers-even have men engaged in Spiritual Formation of witchcraft and bonding with MONKS.

Women are not GODS as all pagans held Eve, Ishtar, Inanna etal as goddessess who dominate by their sexuality. GOD is:

Jehovah is the only TRUE Elohiym. God is our Helper (Eliyeze) but EVE was NOT Jehovah my helper.

461. Eliyezer, el-ee-eh´-zer; from 410 and 5828; God of help; Eliezer, the name of a Damascene and of ten Israelites:—Eliezer.

h410. EL ale; shortened from 352; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity):—God (god), x goodly, x great, idol, might(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in “-el.”

This Biblical Illiteracy derives from:

Gilbert Bilezikian

All of the universities have been confiscated by the MOTHER GODDESSES manifested in MUSIC and the TRINITY derived from the ancient TRIPPLE GODDESSES

In the language of the Old Testament, a "helper" is one who rescues others in situations of need. This designation is often attributed to God as our rescuer.

The word denotes not domesticity or subordination but competency and superior strength (Ex. 18:4; Deut. 33:26, 29; Psalm 33:20, 70:5, etc.).

As "helper," she pointedly enabled him to become with her the community that God had intended to establish through their union. The word "helper" is used specifically in this context of God's deliberation to create community (2:18).

So, male professors and preachers rejoice and be glad that you have been cuckold or worse, implicated in gender confused "worship services."

Because the EARTH is female, Adam was to CLEAVE to Eve JUST LIKE we CLEAVE to God. She THINKS that CLEAVING to Eve means that she was to SERVE her. In fact--not available to defunct colleges--If Adam had CLEAVED to Eve she would not have been SEDUCED by "that wicked one" which produced Cain who was OF that wicked one.

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Re: Madison as the ROOT of the JUBILEE movement.

August 12 2015, 12:03 PM 

All of the Big Gun Universities have fulfilled the prophecy of the Spirit OF Christ in Isaiah 3 where women and BOYS rule over you. Christ in Ezekiel draws us a map which the Doctors of the Law intentionally hide from the simpletons who feed their faces. Dilling who writes a fair and historic history of the Jews (a race of vipers: not true Israelites) notes of Tammuz as the Jewish and Babylonianism REPUDIATED and REPLACED by Jesus of Nazareth the SON of a FATHER.

The Wimbers from FULLER whose influences stretch from Abilene to Nashville does IN FACT attribute "praise singing" to an act of SACRED SEX. When the people rock and roll to the beat of the WORSHIP MINISTER you are engaging in close to literal SACRED SEX. That is why preachers boast of USING women in visual-audible-ruling roles while calling Paul a liar.

Each year the old Babylonian Fast of Tammuz is celebrated by Jews from the 17th of Tammuz to the 9th of Ab. The Fast of Tammuz fell in 1963, for example, on July 9th and the 9th of Ab (or “Av”) on July 30th.

To cite again The Golden Bough — A Study in Magic and Religion, by Sir James George Frazer:

“The worship of Adonis was practiced by the Semitic peoples of Babylonia and Syria, and the Greeks borrowed it from them as early as the 7th Century before Christ. The true name of the deity was Tammuz [Adonis was merely the Semitic word for “lord”].” … [I]n the religious literature of Babylonia Tammuz appears as the youthful spouse or lover of Ishtar, the great mother goddess, the embodiment of the reproductive energies of nature … every year Tammuz was believed to die … every year his divine mistress journeyed in quest of him … During her absence the passion of love ceased to operate; men and beasts alike forgot to reproduce their kinds: all life was threatened with extinction . . His death appears to have been annually mourned . . by men and women about midsummer in the month named after him, the month of Tammuz.

A Babylonian dirge of lament for Tammuz is quoted (pp.1179-80), one line after another starting with the words:

[page 41] “Her lament is for … [Reproductive proclivity is the object. Unnatural as well as “Sacred Prostitution” [Revelation 17-18) acts were part of the tribute to Tammuz.] So intimately bound up with the goddess were the sexual functions of the whole animal kingdom that without her presence they could not be discharged … His death appears to have been annually mourned, to the shrill music of flutes, by men and women about midsummer in the month named after him, the month of Tammuz. The dirges were seemingly changed over the effigy of the dead god.” (The Golden Bough, Frazer, pages 378-9).

This is Holy Ishtar Day where Messiah comes in "a vial of light" (lucado-shelly) or The Cosmic Egg.

Harvest time in Palestine is in the Summer, not the Fall. Frazer treats of the Tammuz rites in connection with the cutting of the harvest as symbolical of the wounding of the procreative god (by a wild boar, in one place), and the insuring of the harvests to come, by wailing over his demise. To quote him:

“Nowhere, apparently, have these rites been more widely and solemnly celebrated than in the lands which border the Eastern Mediterranean. Under the names of Osiris, Tammuz, Adonis, Attis, the peoples of Egypt and Western Asia represented the yearly decay of life, especially of vegetable life … The supposed death and resurrection of this oriental deity, a god of many names but of essentially one nature … We begin with Tammuz or Adonis.”

Observers have noted that "worship teams" as virtual musical instruments rapidly decay into Rock and Roll. That means that worship ministers TURN THEIR TRICKS ON ROUTE 666

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Re: Madison as the ROOT of the JUBILEE movement. HIEROPHANTS of the MOTHER

August 19 2015, 12:07 PM 

I vaguely remember that it was John Mark Hicks working with LU and Rubel Shelly who clained that the "Musical Worship Team can lead you into the presence of God." That's true but not Jehovah but proven by Revelation 17 "the Babylon Mother of Harlots" using lusted after fruits (same as Amos 8) as SORCERERS: speakers, singers, instrument players. The Millstone made a PIPING sound and located the gal who ground grain as well as as the local prostitute. All religious music has always been branded as for making war or making sex.

hierophant is a person who brings religious congregants into the presence of that which is deemed holy. The word comes from Ancient Greece, where it was constructed from the combination of ta hiera, "the holy," and phainein, "to show." In Attica it was the title of the chief priest at the Eleusinian Mysteries. A hierophant is an interpreter of sacred mysteries and arcane principles.

Liv. 37 9 From there he sailed to the mouth of the Hellespont, and stationing ten
ships opposite Abydos he sailed with the rest to the European shore to
attack Sestus.

His men were already approaching the walls when they were met by a body of hierophants known as "Galli" in their priestly robes who announced that they were the ministers

of Mater Dea, the mother of the gods, and it was at her command
that they had come to pray the Romans to spare the city and its walls.
No violence was offered to any of them, and presently their senate and
magistrates came forward to make a formal surrender of the city

iam subeuntibus armatis muros fanatici
Galli primum cum sollemni habitu ante portam
Gallus , i, m., = Gallos Strab., A.
Galli , ōrum, m., the priests of Cybele, so called because of their raving, Gallus , i, m., a priest of Cybele, Mart. 3, 81; 11, 74; cf. Quint. 7, 9, 2: “resupinati cessantia tympana Galli,Juv. 8, 176.—And satirically (on account of their emasculated condition), in the fem.: Gallae , ārum, Cat. 63, 12, and 34.—

Of or belonging to the priests of Isis, Gallic: “turma,the troop of the priests of Isis, Ov. Am. 2, 13, 18.

This was the PLAY of Instrumental and trinitarian worship: both marks of the effeminate according to Paul in Romans 1.

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Hierophant Two

August 19 2015, 9:06 PM 

The God-abandoned Levites grasped that pagan worship demanded a MALE PRIESTHOOD but they must perform the roles of women: this was especially the naked dance of David. The names of songs, the singing style of falsetto (replaced by priests, replaced by castrated acappella singers.)

Women or men exercising the authority or authentia outlawed by Paul was both erotic and murderous. Then and now they SOLD their body and skills claiming to lead the WORSHIP. Paul following Jesus said that worship was IN THE SPIRIT in contrast to IN THE FLESH: this would give no chance for the concision and DOGS or Cynic praise howlers to creep into the young churches.

Horice notes:

Hor. Od. 3.1
Bid the unhallow'd crowd avaunt!
Keep holy silence; strains unknown
Till now, the Muses' hierophant,
I sing to youths and maids alone.

Kings o'er their flocks the sceptre wield;
E'en kings beneath Jove's sceptre bow:
Victor in giant battle-field,
He moves all nature with his brow.

This man his planted walks extends
Beyond his peers; an older name
One to the people's choice commends;
One boasts a more unsullied fame;

One plumes him on a larger crowd
Of clients. What are great or small?
Death takes the mean man with the proud;
The fatal urn has room for all.

When guilty Pomp the drawn sword sees
Hung o'er her, richest feasts in vain
Strain their sweet juice her taste to please;
No lutes, no singing birds again

Will bring her sleep
. Sleep knows no pride;
It scorns not cots of village hinds,
Nor shadow-trembling river-side,
Nor Tempe, stirr'd by western winds.

Who, having competence, has all,
The tumult of the sea defies,
Nor fears Arcturus' angry fall,
Nor fears the Kid-star's sullen rise,

Though hail-storms on the vineyard beat,
Though crops deceive, though trees complain,
One while of showers, one while of heat,
One while of winter's barbarous reign.

Fish feel the narrowing of the main
From sunken piles, while on the strand
Contractors with their busy train
Let down huge stones, and lords of land

Affect the sea: but fierce Alarm
Can clamber to the master's side:
Black Cares can up ihe galley swarm,
And close behind the horseman ride.

If Phrygian marbles soothe not pain,
Nor star-bright purple's costliest wear,
Nor vines of true Falernian strain,
Nor Achaemenian spices rare,

Why with rich gate and pillard range
Upbuild new mansions, twice as high,
Or why my Sabine vale exchange
For more laborious luxury?

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Hierophants.Galatians 5A the excluded emasculated "a cappella"

August 20 2015, 12:12 PM 

One can hope that those promoting HIEROPHANTS always GALLI or castrated [a cappella mark] are just ignorant and have not been given the SOP or PSALLO mark always identifying older males seducing a younger one by playing the harp or lyre: these were more tuned-percussion instruments and they knew how to add the ROCK beat to stimulate all of the nerve endings. ALL of those easing into a gentle ROCK AND ROLL beat probably know that this is the "f" ministry since even "gospel songs" are known to derive from Rock and Roll, Jazz, snake-handlers and voodoo which worked at Cane Ridge Kentucky (Bourbon county). The JUDAS BAG is the well-documented box always attached to a flute case (prophesied in Psalm 41).

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NO DIVERSITY in the unity excluded the sophists meaning rhetoricians, singers and instrument players. The rhetorical style well taught at the once-christian school have always been marked of the EFFEMINATE. Like the Muses or Locust this has the effect of driving out the LITTLE FLOCK with no ticket price and collects and holds captive those having taken the MARK (singing-playing) of the BEAST (a new style of music or Satyric or PAN drama.)

There is no LYRIC poetry in the Bible and therefore nothing you can SING in a tuneful style: that is because even uneducated people could grasp that "men set their lies to a melody to deceive the simple minded." It has been noted that the rich and educated are much easier to seduce.

I hate to MARK these people but Scripture and recorded history knows no exception.

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Galatians 5: The Emasculated (acappellas) excluded by Paul Part B

August 20 2015, 4:36 PM 

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Galatians 5 The WORKS OF THE FLESH: Sorcery A

August 21 2015, 12:59 PM 

Paul said that he wrote the same things to all of the churches. A Reformed Baptist lady sent me some notes on my tribe the Huguenots. A document written to the BAPTIZED CHURCHES it calls the church of Christ in 1692 is arguing AGAINST the improvised worship which included Congregational Singing: that and all recorded history gives the lie to the loud Mantra that Churches of Christ HINDERS the Gospel by resisting instrumental or Lifeless Instruments.

The lady noted the folly of translating SPEAK for our learning into SINGING to "lead us into the presence of God" the Hierophants leading the Hieros Gamos or Sacred Sex as they now admit. In Galatians 5 Continued warning against the same SORCERERS who are the lusted after fruits as speakers, singers, instrument players in Revelation 18 which is the Prophesied Mark of Christ in Isaiah 30: a prelude to CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIR. Praise teams like the ZOE (Evah, Venus, Lucifer) group pleading for God to pour out holy fire: they don't know that the baptism of fire was for the VIPER RACE.

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August 22 2015, 2:49 PM 

Probably the most virulent attacks against ANTI-instrumental Churches was mounted in our area by Rubel Shelly. Hardly a sermon passed that he didn't intimidate with psychologial violence (purpose drive) to use all of the hate words against all "conservative Churches of Christ."

The PLOY supplied to the original band by the NACC after they let Shelly used their building as he collected 3 or four congregations and founded Woodmont Hills. The claim is that churches of Christ INVENTED NOT USING instruments because they were "ignorant red-necked southern hypocrites."

1. The FACT is that--by design--the command is to speak that which is written for our LEARNING. That is the one-piece pattern for Disciples of Christ.

2. God BREATHED (spirit) and Jesus SPOKE the word without metron most often meaning METER.

3. Literate and considerate ancients understood that "evil men set their lies to melodies to deceive the ignorant." All music terms are used of sorcery.

4. The command is to SPEAK the Word where the SPEAK words are the OPPOSITE to ODE or sing. No disciple of Christ would want to "make the lambs dumb before the slaughter" by singing Twila Paris with our without instruments.

There was nothing to sing but popular clamor caused men like John Calvin to permit some Psalms (only) to be REWRITTEN and set to a simple meter to be sung in UNISON.

A paper sent to me yesterday about the BAPTIZED Christians who began by calling themselves a Church of Christ. This gives the lie to all of those boasting about taking your property for their own use: that is the meaning of heresy or sectarianism always facilitated by the hypocritic performing artists.

Benjamin Keach (1640–1704)

Keach also had a Church of England background. He was baptized as an infant. While in his youth, he studiously read the scriptures. He realized that infant baptism was wrong. When he turned 15, he joined the General Baptists. He began preaching at 18 years of age. The precise date is not known, but he later left the General Baptists and became a Particular Baptist.

Benjamin Keach did much to promote religious liberty during the reign of Charles II. He wrote numerous pamphlets and documents. One such book entitled The Child’s Instructor; or, A New and Easy Primmer sent him to prison. For two days (two hours at a time) he was pilloried (bound in stocks). Customarily the townspeople would pelt the pilloried offenders with eggs. Not so with Keach. They stood and attentively listened to Keach proclaim the Word of God. He was imprisoned numerous times for preaching about believer’s baptism.

Keach was also the first to promote singing in church. This was a point of conflict back then. Some believed that singing in church was wrong. Why did the early Baptists find this to be so controversial? There were many factors. Isaac Marlow, the leading spokesperson against singing reasoned the following in his tract “The Controversie of Singing Brought to an End: A Tract on Singing.”

“There is no Example nor Command for such a Practice in the Worship of God under the Law.”

“Neither do our Brethren sing after the Example of the Primitive Christians in the first Gospel Churches” They believed that singing involved the exercise of a miraculous gift. Knollys caused confusion on this point because he believed the sung words and tunes were “dictated by the Holy Spirit.” Furthermore, he elevated singing to an ordinance.

“The singing practised in the primitive Gospel-Churches, differed from the common way of singing now in use.” Singing led to formalism since it was much like a written prayer. They also believed that singing in the early church was performed by only one voice and not that of the entire congregation.

“The Women’s vocal singing in the Church, a practice in common use, is chargeable with breaking to positive and express Laws of Christ, which are so plainly, clearly and fully worded.”

Others added that congregational singing compromised the purity of the church in that it was participated in by the unsaved as well as the saved.

The controversy of singing was so great that when Keach introduced singing it was only reserved for times AFTER the observance of communion. It remained that way for six years. The church added singing to their services at times of public thanksgiving.

It continued that way for another fourteen years. It was not until twenty years had passed that singing was practiced every Lord’s day. Those members who defied the practice of singing were excused to the chapel-yard while the rest of the congregation sang. Eventually they formed a church of their own."

The plot has always been "get over it or get out." They even boast about sowing discord.

Why do you think that preachers so suddenly turned to lying, cheating and stealing the church houses of widows and honest workers so that they and "ENTHUSE" over the limpy praise singers?"

They LIE to God and about God and to the "investors" because Paul said in effect of the hirelings that "fools love to be fooled."

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Ken Sublett
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August 25 2015, 1:53 PM 

E-Mail:Thank you so much for your reply! I grew up in Madison, and was heart broken to hear what had been done to their congregation.

I have to agree with your comment about the anxiety that the 4 part harmony causes for myself, as I am not the best of singers. Trying to keep up with the words, the notes and let them sink in my heart is almost impossible.

What shall we say of people with a HIGH HAND have the agenda of, as boasted, drive people into dissociation so we can change our practices. It might be that one person so offended is enough to justify Jesus instructing John that the "lusted after fruits as speakers, singers and instrument players" are SORCERERS or Hierophants leading people CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

Like Judas, they cannot fail because Jesus sends Satan into them and they hang themselves and slowly twist in the winds until their GUTS FALL OUR and feed the DOGS.

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August 27 2015, 7:48 PM 

I wanted to thank you publicly for all the time you have dedicated to this forum. As I told you I grew up in Madison. I attended a Conservitive Church of Christ in that area. I was pretty young when this issue (inst. music) re-emerged back in the 1980's. I remember voices being raised at that time concerning singing in church, and assurances from others that it was perfectly fine. With the information you have brought to light, perhaps it's time for this to be readdressed. I have been studying church history, but resources are pretty limited. I see you note some source material, are there any others that you would recommend?

Thank you once again!

In Christ!

Dianna Howell

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Ken Sublett
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August 27 2015, 9:38 PM 

Thanks for the observation. You must have caught on to the gradualism the older people missed. Your date of 1980's seems to fit the pattern although it has been pretty hard to trace out the timeline. My primary index is

Most of these papers were written by a non-writer trying to post most of the important documents about instruments. All of them need lots of work but they are readable and link you to the Bible and historic documents.

False teachers claim that Churches of Christ "hindered the gospel" by rejecting performance music and instruments: they claim that the historic scholars or "fathers" approved of instruments. I have reviewed many documents specificially related to music.

The classics and Babylonian Clay Tablets prove that performing religious music was an effort to ASSIST the gods or to appease them so they didn't hurt you.

I am afraid that the younger preachers have shifted from TEACHING to praise or worship which they think can be enhanced by "worship teams" and instruments.

The TIMELINE leading up to Instrumental Apostasy is a growing paper here.

I need to add the fact that the Jubilee was birthed out of Madison.

Thanks again for your comments, Ken

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