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Bill
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Re: Charismatic Worship!!

June 28 2016, 1:07 PM 

So Scripture worships the flag? My My. happy.gif

 
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Re: Charismatic Worship!!

June 28 2016, 2:58 PM 

Bill? Are you OK?

 
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Re: Charismatic Worship!!

June 27 2016, 1:57 PM 

Bill, are you saying that Roman (as well as American happy.gif ) Catholics are not "true Christians" because they idolize and worship the statue of "The Virgin Mary, Mother of God"? [It's not even an option; it is a rule/command/requirement.]

True Christians do not downplay and denounce the suffering and death of Christ on Calvary's tree when we "eat this bread" and "drink this cup" in REMEMBRANCE of the Lord's death.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Charismatic Worship!!

June 27 2016, 8:31 PM 

This is the new mark of the Disciples of Christ

When you hear these SOUNDS LIKE:

Rev. 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

For those still ALIVE

Rev. 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev. 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev. 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Rev. 14:18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
Rev. 14:19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

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Pepperdine-Mike Cope-Jeff Walling COHORTS

June 28 2016, 9:08 AM 

Jeff Walling Youth Leadership Initiative

http://www.piney.com/Jeff.Walling.Youth.Leadership.Initiative.html

Jeff Walling is the latest team member of the Pepperdine COHORT Purpose Driven to TRANSISTION young preachers into apostasy into all of the things Churches of Christ have always rejected based on Scripture and NOT on theologians or doctors of the law who take away the key to knowledge.

Rick Gibson speaking for Pepperdine University.

As we prepare the future of Bible Lectures and Church Relations at Pepperdine,
Mike Cope and I are committed to doing all we can to build a network around and supportive programs for these young preachers.

Though they have freed themselves from sectarian constrains, many have chosen to stay with their churches. At least for now.

In the coming years, churches of Christ will need to respond, demonstrably, to the Restoration cry coming from this young generation and in so doing may restore their full role of influence in the unfolding Christian story.


The NETWORK is called the COHORT and I can hardly wait to tell you about the PERSONA and ASSASSIN meaning of a COHORT. Tim Spivey calls Mike Cope a SAMURAI who was the ASSASSIN of the nobility but were really country bumpkins.

Christ in Isaiah 58 said that the way to restore the OLD PATHS was NOT to seek your own pleasure or speak your own words. Paul passed reading 101aa and told the self-pleasure speakers, singers, instrument players, actors, dancers to be SILENT so that they could "use one mind and one mouth to speak that which is written for our LEARNING." That is the ONLY purpose of a Christ-Driven Synagogue (the name of the assembly is not church).

Jesus and the Apostles DID THAT and defined anyone who FURTHER EXPOUNDS it is MARKED as a false teacher INTENDING to divert people away from Jesus and the Word (Logos or regulative principle)

It is a Purpose Driven Lie to say that Churches of Christ have never violated the direct command and all examples for the Church in the wilderness as SYNAGOGUE which defines the ASSEMBLY while Ekklesia speaks of indivitual believers command NOT to attend a "kingdom which comes with observation" meaning religious rituals defining Lying Wonders.

They lie because most of the people can be fooled most of the time but Churches of Christ were never joined with the Disciple-Christian churches in any sense. Attending assemblies of Baptist, Methodists, Presbyterians or the REFORMED BAPTISTS (Campbell) BEFORE denominational organization and FEES or the Organ (only we promise).

If anyone blogs or preaches that Churches of Christ SECTED out of the Disciples of Christ in 1906 just tell them that LIARS who along with the "dogs" and singing-playing Sorcerers THEY WILL BE CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. Contrary to Lipscomb-Edward Fudge "forever and forever" means forever and forever.

The Christian Church or NACC didn't begin to begin until 1927 and were finally removed from the Rolls of the Disciples in 1971 at which time the Stone-Campbell Movement lie began the second attack on anyone who would not bow to the use of instrumental idolatry which, at Mount Sinai, was a sin beyond redemption

In early 2015 the semi-finalists will be invited to participate in a two-day regional training event in their area with Jeff Walling and other preaching coaches from the region. At the conclusion of the training event they will present their messages again. Four finalists will be offered another session of personal training and will receive teaching resources including software, books as well as a yearlong mentoring relationship with an active leading preacher.

Each finalist will be given an opportunity to speak at various events such as
the North American Christian Convention,
The Tulsa Workshop,
Lipscomb University’s Summer Celebration,
The Pepperdine Bible Lectures
and the Winterfest Youth Conferences.


The SPIRIT Rick Atchley and others heard telling them that the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites as the PATTERN were called soothsayer-sorcerers-exorcists is named ABADDON OR APOLLYON. He EMERGED to help the Church of the Babylon Mother of harlots use "lusted after fruits" as Craftsmen (parasites), singers and instrument players John calls SORCERERS identifying the original Babylon Mother of harlots or the Queen of Heaven worshipped by women and emasculated men (Christ says in Isaiah 3).

Apollon is the LEADER of the Muses or his "musical worship team" at Delphi, Corinth and other places. The MUSES and GRACES were blue-eyed blond dirty prostitutes as the SHEPHERDESSES of the Church of Abaddon.

Because the once-Christian universities defend the KAIROS church planting of all kinds of churches it is appropriate to tell them that KAIROS is the DEMON son of Zeus as antithesis to Christian School of the Word. He comes at the OPPORTUNE TIME to launch a final attack because HE KNOWS THAT HIS TIME IS SHORT.

If any one from Lipscomb has any insight into the New Lipscomb involved in Ignatian Retreats where Lectio Divina is defined as witchcraft or a Hag Fortune Teller and uses material praising Mary the Mother of Gods.

If Lipscomb plans to USE the New Spawn of Preachers does that mean that they endorse the NACC? Maybe some student will contact us: time is short. I don't find it strange that no one at Lipscomb especially the false teachers have no need to respond to the posting of the TEXT IN CONTEXT to say that they are not interested in the Scriptures which is their ONLY basis for accepting food and shelter. It doesn't matter because Jesus same to seek and save LOST SPIRITS and God hides from the wise or sophists: rhetoric for HIRE, singers or instrument players. MANY (most) are called or invited but FEW (almost none) are chosen because they DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM within His Word. Only 120 alive in Jerusalem as the promised RESERVED REMNANT became disciples while most were pilgrims and obeyed the command to GO with no need for Pepperdine's Organization for Pastoral Rule over a community meaning commune.






 
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Ken Sublett
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Progressives are Postmodern: LYING is Phd degree

June 28 2016, 3:30 PM 

The UNIVERSAL lie used as psycholoogical violence is that Churches of Christ REMOVED instruments just because the northern churches approved of them. SECTARIANISM is the RACA word used against anyone who stands in the way of Big Foot as the EU of Christendom. Unfortunately, their worship is based on the mother goddess ISIS worshiped as the trinity represented by the goldencalves.

Rick Gibson speaking for Pepperdine University.

As we prepare the future of Bible Lectures and Church Relations at Pepperdine,
Mike Cope and I are committed to doing all we can to build a network around and supportive programs for these young preachers.

Though they have freed themselves from sectarian constrains, many have chosen to stay with their churches. At least for now.

In the coming years, churches of Christ will need to respond, demonstrably, to the Restoration cry coming from this young generation and in so doing may restore their full role of influence in the unfolding Christian story.


As the MOUTHPIECE of Pepperdine He cannot be ignorant that instrumental noise is outlawe and is always the mark of people as they now boast "infiltrating and diverting your church." Here is a bit of the universal proof that they LIE and liars like the musical sorcerers in Revelation 18 will be CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

Rick uses the KAIROS CHURCH PLANTING plot where KAIROS is HERMES and at the right time Leads DEFUNCT SPIRITS into Hell.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: Progressives are Postmodern: LYING is Phd degree

August 2 2016, 10:51 PM 

I am collecting a vast collection of ancient to modern evidence that people often use music to hurt you. Like a runner's high, it might inject endorphins to make you feel happy but the overdose evaporates before the next appointed hour for our youth already Decibel Poisoned. Anything beyond single tones forces our mind to try to keep up with all of the overtones. We may not know why church is the "hardest working" day of the week but the jarring and jangling of people moving around and trying to be rhetorical cause our mind and body to be extremely stressed while the performers are boasting about how wonderful their performances have been. Jesus called this the Laded Burden which in Hebrew and Greek speaks of "spiritual anxiety created by religious rituals." Paul outlawed it as self- pleasure: both in Greek and Latin that which Paul EXCLUDES as a prelude to Bible Study includes rhetoric, singing, playing instruments or acting: all of these are hostile attacks on our anxiety-laded lives. This is by command and common sense if you obey the command to use one mind and one mouth speaking that which is written for our LEARNING or Scripture for our comfort. That is the one-piece pattern because the Lord's Supper is a teaching visual aid.

Bob Fink wrote: Almost all of us know from our own experience how the sound of a fan in a room, or the sound of an air-conditioner, can be masked out or relegated by our minds to a "background" noise that we no longer pay attention to, and we get on with conversations, or watching TV, or reading, etc. We also do this with the sound level of background converstion in a restaurant, or the hiss of a tape when listening to a tape of music, or the sound of our car motor while listening to the radio and concentrating on driving. We push it out of consciousness, although we still hear it subconsciously and it's always there. When the sound shuts off, then most of us become consciously aware of it again , and often say something like: "Whew, what a relief -- I had forgotten that noise was there till it stopped."

This is what makes noise pollution so insidious in its harmfulness: We often push it into the background, and we can function, but it still will be placing stress on our systems. Too much of it can alter our moods, and shorten tempers, and the like, and many of us living with constant urban noise never know the reasons why moods are not what they used to be. The UN health organization has named noise pollution as now one of the world's major health hazards.

Our ability to push noise into the background becomes impossible for most of us when the noise is not continuous. Even very soft sounds can be tortuous, like the drip, drip of a leaky faucet. It's the contrast between the noise and the silence between the noises that causes it to be interruptive and our system cannot comfortably keep adjusting to the sudden change.

For example, we can adapt to the colour of sunglasses, and then ignore that hue -- but if a light or lightbulb is flickering from one hue to another, then we cannot read, or even stay in that place, as we cannot ignore or "mask" this stimulus into the background. The same is true in the difference we'd notice when someone puts their hand around our shoulder, which may be tolerable for a time, but that same person would severely annoy us if they spent that same time poking or tapping us with their finger into our shoulder. In this last example, it isn't even loudness or sound at all that needs to be made. Someone wiggling a finger just to the side of your vision, while you're trying to read or even think, makes no sound, nor touches you -- but you cannot concentrate for long, and you cannot mask it into the ignorable background, because it doesn't have a "level" that you can define and then mask away.

Again, the same is true with motors that have a wow-wow component to their noise rather than being continuous, and this is the same with barking dog's sounds. Even a dog that is barking "continuously" is really producing a drip, drip, type of non-continuous interruptive irritant, because no matter how small the gap of silence between barks, we can hear it, and our physiological system cannot keep adjusting back and forth, from the sound to the silence, in order to define its level and then mask it. The longer it goes on, the greater the irritant, until it becomes tortuous. Loudness has a little, but not much, to do with it. The irritant is there as long as you can hear it.

The continuity or continuousness of notes in a melody is created because the previous notes often have overtones or harmonies that will usually (not always) match the next note or notes in a fairly audible way. Thus we are hearing "more of the same" (or at least partially more of the same) in the succeeding notes, and this ties notes together into a melody or continuum of sounds and/or harmonies.

This is also what creates a sense of "key" or tonality in music and melody.


In other words, the dog bark or water drip of switching from one note to another still gets to our "spiritual anxiety" but we are not aware of the switch. Melody in the Biblical or Greek sense could be a single note. The Pope's castrated Cappella team began with that femine voice wailing out the same note. A second note can come in handy but they did not sing complex harmony calculated to thrust pitchforks into you before your time.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: The Amorality of Modern Church Worship

August 12 2016, 12:34 PM 

The Kairos Church Planting Scheme is active at the once-Christian universities and in areas where Churches of Christ are strong and faithful. They know that there are lots of churches but they are not the RIGHT KIND and at the RIGHT TIME meaning KAIROS TIME. They dupe faithful churches, collect lots of money and then PLANT Satellite or Daughter churches. They are purpose driven to denounce and replace the Historic Bible-Based Churches. God always provides a way of escape for the Little Flock on the Narrow Road or the WAY that is called a SECT. The command is to SECT OUT or choose to reject those Latter-Day groups strong on the Discipling Dilema trying to trick people into a mind-altering experience by selected but random passages and accountability to someone other than Jesus as the ONLY Teacher Who invites the twos and threes to COME OUT, Rest and Learn of Me. It is not possible to be a school for disciples of Christ and hire speakers and musicians to REPLACE the Word or Logos. They fleece the flock by being ANTI-Logos or regulative Principle and by definition ANTI-Christian. A church is built upon or educated only by the PROPHETS and APOSTLES. The pattern from the wilderness onward defined to MARK the pagan religions including abandoned Judaism was to PREACH the Word by READING the Word.

You don't need a doctor of the law to read and discuss and Jesus warns the Doctors of the Law "Take away the key to knowledge." The way to make the lambs DUMB before the slaughter is defined when Jesus called the Scribes (doctors) and Pharisees, hypocrites: The Spirit OF Christ named self-authoring preachers for HIRE, singers or instrument players.

No one was ignorant of the fact that Hermes or Kairos (opposite sides of the same coin) was the pagan LOGOS then and now. Both Hermes and Kairos are defined as gods of liars and thieves using music to drive the people into ECSTASY or MADNESS: C. Leonard Allen as the foundation many build on says that God is ECSTATIC or Outside of Himself so that Father becomes Son.

The rulers then and now crucify and REcrucify Jesus Christ because they are DELIBERATELY IGNORANT because they did not attend Synagogue which Paul defines as gathering, assemblying or coming together for the ONE PIECE PATTERN to educate and SEPARATE.

Acts 13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their RULERS,
because they knew him not,
nor yet the voices of the PROPHETS
which are READ every sabbath day,
they have fulfilled them in condemning him


That is the ONE PIECE PATTERN the angels of light repudiate. First, they recited the SHEMA which proves and affirmed by Jesus that their is JUST ONE GOD THE FATHER. Then they read with application type preaching outlawed as it was outlawed from the wilderness onward.

Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that PREACH him, being READ in the synagogues every sabbath day


The Absolute PATTERN to prevent the rise of the Scribes and Pharisees restoring the BURDEN was EVERY SABBATH. That is the Biblical Command and Example. People could return and question and discuss the READ TEXT after they returned from the READING ASSEMBLY where both male and female were commanded to be SILENT.

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