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Paul outlaws Dionysus Worship: The progressives bear a MARK.

August 26 2016 at 11:41 PM
Ken Sublett  (Login Ken.Sublett)
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Scripture points to all of the follies of human superstition which are destructive but handy devices by which evil men take the masses captive and harnesses them to expand their mercinary motives. For instance, after the fall BACK to idolatry at Mount Sinai Moses begins with the vain and emptiness created by the Sumerians (c. B.C. 4000) who assumed ownership of all of the God-given living of the hunter-gatherers.

Paul wrote to innoculate the Disciples of Christ from the orgies of Dionysus Worship involving Apollon as the leader of the muses (locusts) who could lull you to sleep in the noon day sun and then give you the sting of death.

According to Philo, the gods of the pagans exploit this weakness of men.
For the sake of a better effect,
and with the intention of more easily cheating their devotes,
that they have set their lies to melodies, rhythms and meters.."


The ACT of singing as a required legalism allows evil men to set THEIR lies to melodies to PREVENT Jesus from being the ONLY RABBI when APT elders "teach that which has been taught." The song book or PRAYER BOOK is NOT that which God's Spirit wrote for our LEARNING.

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Part B what they DID in the Night.

August 27 2016, 10:04 AM 

In Galatians 5 Paul warned against the Gay Troubadours:

http://www.piney.com/Galatians.5.Music.Witchcraft.html

Gal 5:12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

Anastatoo (g387) an-as-tat-o'-o; from a der. of 450 (in the sense of removal); prop. to drive out of home (Psallo has the same meaning), i.e. (by impl.) to disturb (lit. or fig.): - trouble, turn upside down, make an uproar, to stir up, excite, unsettle to excite tumults and seditions in the state to upset, unsettle, minds by disseminating religious error

Only as a methaphor has PSALLO ever musical meant more than SHOOT SOMEONE WITH A SONG.

Similar: PSALLO I. In gen., to play upon a stringed instrument; esp., to play upon the cithara, to sing to the cithara: psallere saltare elegantius, [carry away] 1. to convey away (from the family) by bequest, to bequeath away,

Rogers references some Classical literature which I have also posted to show something about the Dionysus "drunk on wine" people did IN THE DARK with the loud instruments to HIDE the cries of the PERFECTED.

Progressives say that CULTURE has changed and so we are POST-CHRISTEN and POST-BIBLICAL even though they cherry-pick isolated verses to turn their tricks. Little Aaron would be aware of what they did in the dark if he happened to have been approached as the MEN TURNED BOYS tried to do to Jesus.

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The Galli or "cut off" or emasculated priests of Cybele and other mother goddesses (some are male) is also applied to ISIS worshipped at Mount Sinai under the symbol of Apis the bull. Here is a picture of the Scribes account of the Laver in Jerusalem. The prophets warn about the accounts of the Scribes of the abandoned-to-star worship Civil-Military-Clergy complex FROM WHOM the godly people were quarantined on the sabbath or REST day. I hope you don't travel more than about 700 feet in the morning because the Greek PAUO has the same meaning as SABBATH. This is your BURDEN if you rest on the law and even "show partiality".

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Re: Paul outlaws Dionysus Worship in Ephesians 5 Part 1

August 27 2016, 5:40 PM 

Only ELDERS who let the WOLVES into the flock are the subject. A wolf is a "pederast" which was APPROVED by the SOPHIA cult which is opposite to the LOGOS or WORD truth. Heaven's knows, don't religious operatives hit the press so often that you wonder if it is an occupational hazard. Last night it was a "pastor person" caught into METH what whatever.

http://www.piney.com/2.Peter.2.Instrumental.Music.Marks.Corruption.html

History knows no exception and that is why the only SAFE MARK is to obey the command to PREACH the WORD (only) by READING the Word: anything added to is to support bad people.

http://www.piney.com/Worship.Androgyny.The.Pagan.Sexual.Ideal.html

Here is some of the rest of the story of just ONE verse: cartoonists cannot read BLACK text on BROWN paper.

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August 28 2016, 12:36 AM 

Dave and Bill illustrates the SECRET meaning of music. Music is derived from mystery and was always used to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter. This is one of those key words doctors of the law take away.

Acts 8:32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
Acts 8:33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

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Now that the mockers have done their work, continue with a parallel look at Ephesians 5 and Colossians 3.

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John T. Willis Melody demands INSTRUMENTS

August 28 2016, 12:12 PM 

John T. Willis:

http://www.piney.com/John.T.Willis.Instrumental.Melody.html

From the 1950s or earlier, the Highland Church committed herself to be willing to study any and every subject pertaining to God and HIS ways. We have tried to submit ourselves to the Word of God in dealing with each issue.

That was the beginning of the Infiltrate and Divert of the Herald of Truth and the massive sowing of discord.

John T. Willis boasts of Jo Bass and "the Holy Spirit and I"

John T. Willis claims that: Sing and make melody" was a very common practice throughout the history of God's people. These two practices are inseparable as one. 2

"Sing" is vocal;
"make melody" is instrumental. Psalms 33:2-3; 144:9; 149:1, 3 make this crystal clear.
Amos 5:23 further verifies this reality.


Just one example to prove Jesus' statement that "doctors of the law take away the key to knowledge." The more doctorates you have the deeper the hole into darkness because it denies that God or Jesus or Paul could communicate without another "god" person to bail them out. Here is what Psalm 149 which wants to bash out heads of infants says:

Psa. 149:1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.

Praise is: 1984.halal, haw-lal´; a primitive root; to be clear (orig. of sound, but usually of color); to shine; hence, to make a show, to boast; and thus to be (clamorously) foolish; to rave; causatively, to celebrate; also to stultify:—(make) boast (self), celebrate, commend, (deal, make), fool(-ish, -ly), glory, give (light), be (make, feign self) mad (against), give in marriage, (sing, be worthy of) praise, rage, renowned, shine.

Sing is h7891 a stroling minstrelsy FROM 7788. shuwr, shoor; a primitive root; properly, to turn, i.e. travel about (as a harlot or a merchant):—go, singular See also 7891.


There is NO history which does not associate religious musicians with people singing boast songs threatending.

Psa. 149:5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
Psa. 149:6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;


Paul commanded SPEAK and that which is inspired. Lexis is the opposite of ODE. ODE and Psallo (shooting real or love arrows) are in the heart where NO ONE CAN HEAR them but "god" which is a generic word.

One of the UNLEASING was of the Nashville Jubilee and the New Wineskins Magazine: they speak of making music AS worship using all of those very effeminate terms proving that they are drunk on wine or drunk on ignorance. THERE IS NO RECORDED EXCEPTION.

Of the Dionysia including EPHESUS where being saved or SAFE by grace through FAITH needs to ask: "Safe from WHAT?" The beginning verses of Ephesians 2 Defines what true scholars understood.

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John T. Willis Melody demands INSTRUMENTS

August 28 2016, 12:12 PM 

John T. Willis:

http://www.piney.com/John.T.Willis.Instrumental.Melody.html

From the 1950s or earlier, the Highland Church committed herself to be willing to study any and every subject pertaining to God and HIS ways. We have tried to submit ourselves to the Word of God in dealing with each issue.

That was the beginning of the Infiltrate and Divert of the Herald of Truth and the massive sowing of discord.

John T. Willis boasts of Jo Bass and "the Holy Spirit and I"

John T. Willis claims that: Sing and make melody" was a very common practice throughout the history of God's people. These two practices are inseparable as one. 2

"Sing" is vocal;
"make melody" is instrumental. Psalms 33:2-3; 144:9; 149:1, 3 make this crystal clear.
Amos 5:23 further verifies this reality.


Just one example to prove Jesus' statement that "doctors of the law take away the key to knowledge." The more doctorates you have the deeper the hole into darkness because it denies that God or Jesus or Paul could communicate without another "god" person to bail them out. Here is what Psalm 149 which wants to bash out heads of infants says:

Psa. 149:1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise in the congregation of saints.

Praise is: 1984.halal, haw-lal´; a primitive root; to be clear (orig. of sound, but usually of color); to shine; hence, to make a show, to boast; and thus to be (clamorously) foolish; to rave; causatively, to celebrate; also to stultify:—(make) boast (self), celebrate, commend, (deal, make), fool(-ish, -ly), glory, give (light), be (make, feign self) mad (against), give in marriage, (sing, be worthy of) praise, rage, renowned, shine.

Sing is h7891 a stroling minstrelsy FROM 7788. shuwr, shoor; a primitive root; properly, to turn, i.e. travel about (as a harlot or a merchant):—go, singular See also 7891.


There is NO history which does not associate religious musicians with people singing boast songs threatending.

Psa. 149:5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
Psa. 149:6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand;


Paul commanded SPEAK and that which is inspired. Lexis is the opposite of ODE. ODE and Psallo (shooting real or love arrows) are in the heart where NO ONE CAN HEAR them but "god" which is a generic word.

One of the UNLEASING was of the Nashville Jubilee and the New Wineskins Magazine: they speak of making music AS worship using all of those very effeminate terms proving that they are drunk on wine or drunk on ignorance. THERE IS NO RECORDED EXCEPTION.

Of the Dionysia including EPHESUS where being saved or SAFE by grace through FAITH needs to ask: "Safe from WHAT?" The beginning verses of Ephesians 2 Defines what true scholars understood.

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Re: John T. Willis Melody demands INSTRUMENTS

August 28 2016, 4:03 PM 

1. Getting drunk on wine leading to vocal or instrumental sounds is Paul warning about Dionysus-Bacchus abuses in Ephesus and elsewhere.

2. SPEAK or READ are the only presentation for the WORD of God. Word or Logos is the regulative principle outlawing any self-speak, singing or playing instruments.

3. The Spirit OF Christ who define the future REST both inclusively and exclusively outlaws "seeking your own pleasure" (Roman 15:1) or Speaking your own Words.

4. The PATTERN is to "use one mind and one mouth to SPEAK that which is written for our LEARNING."

Anyone seducing and discording people just so they can get enthused over boy and girl singers with or without instruments are perhaps intentionally ignorant and universities should be ashamed of SELLING young people "theology". I have heard that demons (Kairos the demon son of Zeus) cannot blush. Dionysus as god or principle is the ANTI-Jehovah class of gods or elohim.

Most nations had versions of the Creation: Hesiod's Theogony is more like the Babylonian account. Moses inverted the Babylonian account which forced mankind to be SLAVES of the gods. The Greek and others' cosmology placed DIONYSUS at the center and as THE rituals intending to prevent any moral or ethical instruction.

1. If ALL of the evidence commands that you SPEAK what the true God reveals for Learning or Instruction and spirit-renewing through simply READING that which GOD supplied with saving washing or saving power.

2. And no one is allowed to READ more than a verse or part of a verse as the ACT OF READING, and the preacher has no intention of teaching the context.

3. And people BOAST of the Winskines or Dionysus pattern.

4. Why is Paul's call for the elders to silence the cunning craftsmen or sophists meaning speakers, singers and instrument players NOT the mark of those LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.

Genesis and other documents are supposed to reveal the nature of the VAIN AND EMPTY destruction of FREE hunters, gatherers, or shepherds who ATE the fruit of their own work. The rise of Sumer fits the BC c4000 period.

Don't get FILLED with Wine but be FILLED with the Word which is SPIRIT or the Word of Christ. The ONLY reason Paul made such a demand is that EPHESUS was consumed with the music-induced excesses of win which lead to the loud singing, playing instruments, dancing and sexual abnormality. Accounts such as The Book of Enoch show that falling into the musical madness at the foot of Mount Hermon led to homosexuality between parents and children. Paul in Romans 1 defines the horrors of Mount Sinai.

http://www.piney.com/Romans.1.html

The gods had their AGENTS or senior pastors at the towers of Babylon of which Jerusalem had a version. Paul's putting the ODE and PSALLO IN THE HEART (a place) or SILENT. Paul equated unknown tongues or lifeless tongues to musical instruments.

1Cor. 14:28 But if there be no interpreter,
.....let him keep silence IN the church;
.....and let him speak to himself, and to God

la^l-eō , IF NOT ARTICULATE II. chatter, opp. articulate speech, as of locusts, chirp, Theoc.5.34; mesēmbrias lalein tettix (sc. eimi), a very grasshopper [LOCUSTS] to chirp at midday, Aristopho 10.6; “anthrōpinōs l.” Strato Com.1.46.
III. of musical sounds, “aulō laleō” Theoc.20.29; of trees, v.supr.1.2; “di'aulou ē salpiggos l.” Arist. Aud.801a29; of Echo, D.C.74.14: also c.acc. cogn., magadin lalein sound the magadis,


A "tongue" is the reed of a wind instruments: surely it speaks in an unknown language but the SOUNDS have enchanting or SORCERY effects.

ALL of the commanded and practiced One-Piece Pattern in the Churches in the Bible was to assemble to hear the Reading of Holy Scriptures which were not written by the abandoned Scribes of the Monarchy. The Drunken Singing and playing instruments defined as "enchantment or Sorcery Rev 18) always led to sexual and abnormal sexuality: Paul calls it WRATH which is ORGE or AN ORGY.

The only way to guard against wrath as "anger" or wrath as an "orgy" is to carefully READ and speak "that which is written for our learning." Modern churches become CULT when the "rules" make it impossible to question the self-speaker or NOT to go away angry at the loss of the "one another" assemblies where Paul DID NOT preach until midnight: He DIALOGUED.

Paul almost always POINTS to some current or Prophetic Type to define the assembly in the same sense God ordained the synagogue in the wilderness. It was a SAFE HOUSE as a place to be quarantined from Babylonianism in Jerusalem and the PATTERN was to Rest, Read and Rehearse the WORD ONLY as it was handed down through Moses before the FALL at Mount Sinai and the Abrahamic "The Book of The Covenant" and the Prophets afterward.

Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that PREACH him, being READ in the synagogues every sabbath day.

Matt. 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Acts 13:15 And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on.



 
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Re: John T. Willis Melody demands INSTRUMENTS

August 29 2016, 8:41 PM 

QUESTION VI.
If Scripture says that God "turned the Jews over to worship the starry host and sent them to Assyria (never to return) and Babylon (only a few returned), then why would anyone use them as a PATTERN for people to perform worship rituals (Laws), collect tithes and offerings and use the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites?

The SERVICE of the Levites as prophesying with instruments has the same sound and meaning of APOLLON or ABADDON. This is defined as both soothsaying (Miriam and the Levites) or sorcery connected to their role as Primaray Parasite in Egypt.

SYMPOSIACS, BY PLUTARCH. Messianic Jews try to debunk him but Scripture agrees.

WHAT GOD IS WORSHIPPED BY THE JEWS.

SYMMACHUS, LAMPRIAS, MOERAGENES.

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/p/plutarch/symposiacs/chapter4.html

Here Symmachus, greatly wondering at what was spoken, says: What, Lamprias, will you permit our tutelar god, called Evius, the inciter of women, famous for the honors he has conferred upon him by madmen, to be inscribed and enrolled in the mysteries of the Jews?

Or is there any solid reason that can be given to prove Adonis to be the same with Bacchus? Here Moeragenes interposing, said: Do not be so fierce upon him, for I who am an Athenian answer you, and tell you, in short, that these two are the very same.


Adonis is Tammuz who is the PAGAN's denial of Jehovah-God or the ONLY Lord-Elohim. This pagan was and is worshipped as Dionysos or Bacchus.

http://www.piney.com/MuTammuz.html

Ezekiel 8 defines the women's worship of Tammuz in the temple while them men were bowing to the sun in the east: to do so that had to turn their backs on the "house" they claim housed their god who was NEVER Jehovah. In Romans 14 Paul warns against the Dionysus and Orpheus worship in Rome. The pseudo Jesus PIPED forcing you to "lament and dance" the initiation into the ALWAYS-GAY priesthood. In Romans 14 they were not permitted to engage in Doubtful Disputations which did not edify or EDUCATE. In Romans 15 Paul defined the UNIVERSAL one -piece pattern for the WEEKLY assembly as School of the Word and REST or Quarantine from the religious "actors" whose god needs them

And no man is able or fit to bring the chief confirmation of this truth, but those amongst us who are initiated and skilled in the triennial [Greek omitted] or chief mysteries of the god.

But what no religion forbids to speak of among friends, especially over wine, the gift of Bacchus, I am ready at the command of these gentlemen to disclose.

When all the company requested and earnestly begged it of him; first of all (says he), the time and manner of the greatest and most holy solemnity of the Jews is exactly agreeable to the holy rites of Bacchus; for that which they call the Fast they celebrate in the midst of the vintage, furnishing their tables with all sorts of fruits while they sit under tabernacles made of vines and ivy; and the day which immediately goes before this they call the day of Tabernacles.

Within a few days after they celebrate another feast, not darkly but openly, dedicated to Bacchus, for they have a feast amongst them called Kradephoria, from carrying palm-trees, and Thyrsophoria [shaken reed], when they enter into the temple carrying thyrsi.

What they do within I know not; but it is very probable that they perform the rites of Bacchus. First they have little trumpets, such as the Grecians used to have at their Bacchanalia to call upon their gods withal.

Others go before them playing upon harps, which they call Levites, whether so named from Lusius or Evius,--either word agrees with Bacchus. [Dionysus Paul warned about in Ephesians 5)

And I suppose that their Sabbaths have some relation to Bacchus [and Babylon]; for even now many call the Bacchi by the name of Sabbi, and they make use of that word at the celebration of Bacchus's orgies [Paul's WRATH word]

And this may be discovered out of Demosthenes and Menander. Nor would it be out of place, were any one to say that the name Sabbath was given to this feast from the agitation and excitement [enthousi-astikos ] which the priests of Bacchus display.


The godly Jews were quarantined to their isolated villages to REST and read the Word. The Jacob-Cursed and God-Abandoned Levites PROFANED the Sabbath without consequence because God had washed His hands of them.

Universities, conferences and Book Writers increasingly urge the Old Testament as having some PATTERNS for Christian "worship."

http://www.piney.com/Gods.Holy.Fire.ACU.html

FROM ACU: "A major task facing our churches is the reintegration of the Old Testament into the regular teaching, thinking and practice of the church" (p. 49).

4. "Too often, we in churches of Christ have made a mistake in removing the Old Testament, for practical purposes, from our canon. The hole in Scripture has produced a hole in the practice of OUR FAITH" (p. 66).


Again, Paul warns in the false "Unity in Diversity" scam that to the contrary LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE. That's the opinion of Jesus now as HOLY SPIRIT and not mine.


    
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August 30 2016, 10:23 AM 



"Dionysus" is not in the Bible. Ken is trying slip a another god ("Dionysus" god of grapes and wine) in the Holy Bible. Not on my watch!

 
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Re: Paul outlaws Dionysus Worship in Corinth

August 31 2016, 10:54 AM 

THE PATTERN: The big once-Christian universities have decided to bond with the NACC or the Christian Church and even with the Disciples of Christ.

Dionysos was closely identified by the Greeks with a number of Eastern vegetation gods: Egyptian Osiris, Phoenician Tammuz, Arabian Orotalt, Phrygian . He is also the ALWAYS-PAGAN ANTI JESUS

Exodus and Joshua have been used at the "infiltrated and diverted" universities cross-breeding with the NACC. It is easy to prove that none of the BIG GUNS or as Mom used to say Jack Legged Preachers had a remote clue that Exodus and Deuteronomy MARKS them.

WHAT HAPPENED AT MOUNT SINAI

Deut. 30:11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
Deut. 30:12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deut. 30:13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deut. 30:14 But the WORD is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.


Paul in 1 Corinthians 10 identifies the Instrumental PLAY as a PATTERN or EXAMPLE of Demon worship. Beyond their ability to do otherwise the KAIROS church planting scheme is the DEMON son of Zeus and Kairos Time is the right time to MOUNT AN ATTACK.

In Romans 9-11 Paul seems to insert a synagogue sermon proving that PREDESTINATION for the Jews was LOST at Mount Sinai. The Ascending and Descending and "sending across the sea" is Paul's pointing to the instrumental-trinitiarin idolatry at Mount Sinai.

WHAT PAUL SAID AND THE PROGRESSIVES WILL NEVER GRASP

Rom. 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
Rom. 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Rom. 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom. 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the WORD of faith, which we preach;


You don't NEED to know anything about the ALWAYS PAGAN enemy of God and going through life DUMDED DOWN WITH MUSIC is fine. However, if you HIRE OUT your BODY claiming to speak FOR GOD He will make certain that you make a fool of yourself as He made the idolatrers at Mount Sinai a LAUGHING STOCK. No one gets more giggling than the EXPOSING AND DISPOSING of the "Androgynous Worship Leader" which also defines those who depend on THEIR planning and programming and even claiming that "OUR worship team can LEAD YOU INTO THE PRESENCE OF GOD." Moses and Paul would say TO THOSE with EYES and EARS.

Rom. 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the WORD of faith, which we preach;


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NO, silly BOTH/AND progressives, Holy Scripture is the PROPHETS and other prophesies about Messiah. A Church of Christ is built upon or EDUCATED by the Prophets and Apostles and NOT by the CURSE of the Civil-Military-Clergy. The Spirit OF Christ in the Prophets prove that God saved the Israelites by GRACE and did not command sacrifices or burnt offerings.

John Mark Hicks says tthat God DOES REJOICE and eats with us as we BURN THE FAT: That is his pattern for the Lord's Supper accompanied by JUBILATING PRAISE

Psa. 50:12 If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.
Psa. 50:13 Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats?
Psa. 50:14 Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High:


THE DIRECT COMMAND:

Heb. 13:15 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

AND GOD AS THE SPIRIT (BREATH) OF CHRIST PROVIDES ALL OF THE FRUITS.

Is. 57:19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the LORD; and I will heal him.

Peace demanded of the MEN and WOMEN is PACO ,t acified, quieted, peaceful, quiet, calm, tranquil, undisturbed 4. To make a pause in speaking QUIESCO A. To suffer or allow quietly, to peaceably permit a thing to be done:

Thanksgiving is: especially to revere or worship (with extended hands); intensively, to bemoan (by wringing the hands):

This was turning up the PALMS and not WAVING the hands. Jews and Muslims turn up the palms as a symbol "reading the word."

ALL of the now-defunct universities being SOLD OUT to the NACC and their lectureSHIPS of SCHOLARS never were able to include the PATTERN of "Instrumental Worship" as the cause and mark of those who GOD HAS TURNED OVER TO WORSHIP THE STARRY HOST. Instrumental-Trinitarian-Perverted "worship" sold at a high price is not THE SIN: it is simply God MARKING them and as in Amos 8 God saying "I willl not pass by again" forever more.

 
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August 31 2016, 4:45 PM 

Dave dodges the Bible blaming me for telling him that there is no command, example or remote inference of God VIOLATING his REST by calling people out of THEIR BESTOWED REST to engage in group singing with or without instruments.

There is no command, example or remote inference of any of the many NAMED assembles where the people engaged in group singing with or without instruments.

No one chanted any human compositions in the assembly until about the year 373 when Constantine paid the unwashed pagan bishops and then only in the MONKISH setting but not when the people gathered.

There is no MELODY word in Scripture which includes tunefulness.
MELODY even now is a "series of single notes."
The ONE GOD THE FATHER breathed SPIRIT without metron or musical melody.
Jesus never SANG in any of His defined Scripture as the Prophets or other mentions of Messiah.

So Dave or one of his NUMEROUS personalities which he may never have met thinks that hacking this forum will excuse him or "them" from working desperately hard to prevent any of the WORDS of Jesus either spoken OR sung.

If God has SUPPLIED everything we need they what shall we say that YOU need THEM to go beyond and REPLACE the universal command to SPEAK what God commands? You sing only to mother goddess who can also be male.

Now, Dave if you need to enthuse over self-exhibitionists SELLING stuff then never let me stand in your way.

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Paul in commanding the SPEAKING of the Biblical Text wrote that ODE and PSALLO must be IN the heart and therefore SILENT as Paul demanded silence of any thing anyone claimed as a revelation. He, on the other hand, would speak only that which was provided by God for EDUCATION.

For those unable to read the series of ANTITHETICAL PARALLELS leading up to the command to SPEAK, the Progressives as ANTI-church of Christ which feeds them and buys their merchandise, are the only ones who are HISTORYLESS.

C. Leonard Allen now in control of your children: Note the use of the term “movement” in the following excerpts from page 5: “This attitude toward the past characterized the early movement. … Propelled by such an attitude toward the past, restoration movements like ours easily develop a kind of historylessness. By this term I refer to the perception that, while other churches or movements are snared in the web of profane history, one’s own church or movement stands above mere human history. In the process it creates exhilarating (and damaging) illusions. Among Churches of Christ it often has meant that we simply discounted eighteen centuries of Christianity as, at worst, a diseased tumor or, at best, an instructive failure.

http://www.piney.com/Restoration-Roots.html

There are only a few HYMNS defined as the hallels in THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING.

Hallel (Hebrew: הלל‎‎, "Praise") is a Jewish prayer, a verbatim recitation from Psalms 113-118, which is used for praise and thanksgiving that is RECITED by observant Jews on Jewish holidays.

Jesus and the apostles did not SING a HYMN and WENT OUT (a good pattery?): the Dicto or recited a hymn as that masculine mark. Tradition says that Number 137 was to be sung to announce the arrival of John the Baptist. Using these HYMNS regularly was considered idolatry. Hymns by people ARE Idols.

"Hymn" is a steal word used of something written by a human and now considered so SUPERIOR to that which is written that it SILENCES even the singing of psalms, hymns or spiritual songs. And so people are made dumb before the slaughter because the TEACHING PSALMS are OUTLAWED in modern cults.

If all else fails for those who say that SINGING WHATEVER is a Direct Command for an ACT of worship and it is a sin NOT to collect around the Maypole and skip, the HISTORY Foster, Hughes and other ditto heads, reads something like this and there is no church council which APPROVED their NEW WINESKINS THEOLOGY as the MARK that Dionysus has forced the NOT-APT elders to bow to Baal and take the initiation.

Hymnody then and now was a human's effort to ENHANCE and silence the Biblical Text. The result is that CLAIMING the Blue Book as a Commanded ACT (legalism) probably deludes and makes it impossible to ever become a RESTORED Church of Christ: In Isaiah 58 that OUTLAWS seeking your own pleasure or SPEAKING YOUR OWN WORDS.

Hymnody developed systematically, only after the emperor Constantine legalized Christianity (AD 313); and it flourished earliest in Syria, where the practice was possibly taken over from the singing by Gnostics and Manichaeans of hymns imitating the psalms. The Byzantine Church adopted the practice; in its liturgy, hymns maintain a much more prominent place than in the Latin liturgy; and Byzantine hymnody developed complex types such as the kanon and kontakion (qq.v.; see also Byzantine chant). Saint Ephraem--a 4th-century Mesopotamian deacon, poet, and hymnist--has been called the "father of Christian hymnody." Britannica Online

In the West, St. Hilary of Poitiers composed a book of hymn texts in about 360. Not much later St. Ambrose of Milan instituted the congregational singing of psalms and hymns, partly as a counter to the hymns of the Arians, who were in doctrinal conflict with orthodox Christianity. In poetic form (iambic octosyllables in four-line stanzas), these early hymns--apparently sung to simple, possibly folk melodies--derive from Christian Latin poetry of the period.

By the late Middle Ages trained choirs [Worship Teams as proof of an ABOMINATION] had supplanted the congregation in the singing of hymns. Although new, often more ornate melodies were composed and many earlier melodies were elaborated, one syllable of text per note was usual. Some polyphonic hymn settings were used, usually in alternation with plainchants, and were particularly important in organ music.


Only by the forced introduction of simple organs by commercial interests where Cathedrals were build at FAIR TOWNS to get in on the fleecing, did the Monks (monkish) and professional composers first LEARNED about harmony because they had ten fingers

The Precenter is called "the first heresy largely pervading the church"

Congregational singing in the liturgy was re-established only during the Reformation, by the Lutheran Church in Germany.

The early chorale (q.v.), or German hymn melody,
was unharmonized and sung unaccompanied,
although harmonized versions, used by varying combinations of choir, organ, and congregation, appeared later.

Swiss, and later, French, English, and Scottish Calvinism promoted the singing of metrical translations of the psalter (see psalmody), austerely set for unaccompanied unison singing. English and Scottish Protestantism admitted only the singing of psalms. English metrical psalms were set to tunes adapted from the French and Genevan psalters. These were fairly complex melodies written on French metres. The English psalter used only a few metres, and the custom of singing each psalm to its “proper” tune was soon replaced by the use of a few common tunes. The common metre 8, 6, 8, 6 (the numbers give the number of syllables in each line), a form of English ballad metre, remains the archetypal English hymn metre.
Kenneth Latourette, A History of Christianity, p. 760).


If you say that GOD COMMANDED SINGING as an ACT
And God did NOT do any such thing but rebukes the singy-clappy persona
The the Spirit OF Christ in Jeremiah 23 calls that despising the Word of God which is the word BLASPHEMY.


 
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Re: Paul outlaws Dionysus Worship: C. Leonard Allen refuted in Ephesians 5 Part 1

September 5 2016, 10:46 AM 

Most pagans had a WORLD VIEW and all had similar "gods" under different names. When God finally granted the ELDER'S wish for a king he would both SLAUGHTER and WORSHIP like the nations or gentiles. When God abandoned the Jews to worship the starry host because they already practiced that instrumental-trinitarian-perverted PLAY (Acts 7 etc. etc.) ANY disciple of Christ would be able to SEE and HEAR and not use anything connected with the God-Abandoned Monarchy.

Both Israel and Judah are included under the MARK which no "progressive" or "post Bible" selling their learning at retain (corrupting the word or prostitution) can grasp. Jude says that they were FOREORDAINED and they say they ARE predestined with a crown which no one can pry off.

The Spirit OF Christ speaks only in the Prophets and other prophecies concerning SHILOH or the REST God promised to ABRAHAM'S children and the LAW had no effect on that promise (Gal 3).

This BIBLE text will prove Alexander Campbell's Sermon on the Law. Then as now, if a preacher could find a word or phrase anywhere in the LIBRARY he would use it and abuse it if he could SELL IT AT RETAIL or Prostitute the Word.

2Cor. 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
2Cor. 7:2 Receive us; we have wronged no man, we have corrupted no man, we have defrauded no man.


phtheiro phtheiresthai pros tous plousious, of hangers-on and flatterers, hēdonas apo . . ponōn” Anon. ap. Stob.4.31.84; “akouō se lurōdou [one who sings to a lyre, ODOS harmonia] gunaikos, Callistr.Stat.7. metekheirizeto de tēn luran, hē de isarithmous tais Mousais exēpto tous phthoggous: ho gar khalkos kai neuras 3. to be morally corrupted,

Identical to those boasting about "Infiltrating and Diverting your congregation:

Of the lyre Pllayer Plut. Sull. 33 and of taking away or bestowing kingdoms at his pleasure. [2] He conducted the sales of confiscated estates in such arrogant and imperious fashion, from the tribunal where he sat, that his gifts excited more odium than his robberies. He bestowed on handsome women, musicians, comic actors, and the lowest of freedmen, the territories of nations and the revenues of cities

Corrupting the WORD as a title of GOD as the Regulative Principle is so serious that the command to SPEAK or READ cannot be misunderstood by anyone. Those who appeal to those ABANDONED by God and sentenced to captivity and death is not permitted to read. Jesus says that God HIDES from the Wise or Sophists: self-authoring speakers, singers, instrument players or actors. Jesus marks them as hypocrites. The Spirit of CHRIST debunked the notion that God commanded king, kingdom, temple, animal slaughter, performing sorcery with instruments with property stolen from the poor. Israel defines the nation as a whole before the Civil War caused by slavery building Solomon's HOUSE when God promised David a tent or FAMILY. If God abandoned all of them to worship the starry host and burn infants, then how can anyone SELL the notion that their GOD needs someone to enable him?

Hos. 13:8 I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.
Hos. 13:9 O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.
Hos. 13:10 I will be thy king: where is any other that may save thee in all thy cities? and thy judges of whom thou saidst, Give me a king and princes?
Hos. 13:11 I gave thee a king in mine anger, and took him away in my wrath.
Hos. 13:12 The iniquity of Ephraim is bound up; his sin is hid.
Hos. 13:13 The sorrows of a travailing woman shall come upon him: he is an unwise son; for he should not stay long in the place of the breaking forth of children.


Of a tiny remnant,

Hos. 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.
Hos. 13:15 Though he be fruitful among his brethren, an east wind [spirit, not a people] shall come, the wind of the LORD shall come up from the wilderness, and his spring shall become dry, and his fountain shall be dried up: he shall spoil the treasure of all pleasant vessels.

Hos. 14:2 Take with you WORDS, and turn to the LORD: say [Dico] unto him, Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously: so will we render the calves of our LIPS.


VERBUM whence eirō and rhēma, what is spoken or said; cf. Goth. vaurd; Germ. Wort; Engl. word, a word; plur., words, expressions, language, discourse, conversation, etc.
RHEMASpeak as RHEMA is the opposite of ERGON mostly deeds of WAR as in "worship wars." 4. deed, action, “erg' andrōn te theōn te” Od.1.338 ; “theskela e. Trōōn set in motion by a god: wonderous works " God-inspired (keleuō)“, th. Hermēs” Coluth.126.

Hermēs , [KAIROS] Hermes, son of Zeus and Maia, 3. ho tou Hermou astēr the planet Mercury,

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words [VERBUM] that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life.


The WORDS which Jesus SPEAKS are derived from God's Spirit or BREATH and WORDS and SPEAK are the means of conveying God's Spirit or Mind. Loquor is defined as speak, say in the tone of conversation or even whisper.

Jesus noted that the Sons of God SPEAK but the sons of the Devil DO and therefore rest on THEIR ability
Speak as RHEMA is the opposite of ERGON mostly deeds of WAR as in "worship wars." 4. deed, action, “erg' andrōn te theōn te” Od.1.338 ; “theskela e. Trōōn

God is not--CAN NOT--be worshipped with the words or works of your human hands: the attempt proves that you believe that God is incompetent. That is the meaning of the PRAISE LEADER who makes certain that the gods do not fail you--again.

Hos. 14:3 Asshur shall not save us; we will not ride upon horses: neither will we say any more to the work of OUR hands, Ye are our gods: for in thee the fatherless findeth mercy.


WORK of our hands is OPERA as in religious observations "to which the kingdom does not come." to bestowpains, to employ Mūsa , ae, f., = Mousa,muse, one of the goddesses of poetry, music, and the other liberal arts. A. A song, a poem: “musa procax,” Hor. C. 2, 1, 37: “pedestris,” a style of poetry bordering on prose. Mousa singing to the lyre as a "burden".

Plato warning about limiting the contact with the muses:

Plat. Rep. 411a Now when a man abandons himself to music to play upon him and pour into his soul as it were through the funnel of his ears those sweet, soft, and dirge-like airs of which we were just now speaking, and gives his entire time to the warblings and blandishments of song, the first result is that the principle of high spirit, if he had it,
[411b] is softened like iron and is made useful instead of useless and brittle. But when he continues the practice without remission and is spellbound, the effect begins to be that he melts and liquefies till he completely dissolves away his spirit,


Music had value in the sense of training warriors: they studied music, dancing and gymnastics to prepare men to go into war and be agile and kill and not be killed.

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Re: Paul outlaws Dionysus Worship: C. Leonard Allen refuted in Ephesians 5 Part 1

September 5 2016, 6:08 PM 

For the lesser informed, the notion that Paul explicitly "outlawed Dionysus worship" is not accurate, given that the god Dionysus is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

Instead, Paul gives a general admonition: "Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry" (1 Cor. 10:14 KJV).

Moreover, whereas the New Testament does occasionally mention a few pagan deities, it certainly doesn't fixate on them; hence, such deities do not appear on every page of every chapter in the New Testament, as some would have us believe. The New Testament is more concerned with presenting and explaining the Gospel of Christ than with pagan deities. So, it goes without saying that faithful Christians do not focus their lifestyles on pagan subjects.

 
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Re: Paul outlaws Dionysus Worship: The progressives bear a MARK.

September 5 2016, 6:50 PM 

Scholars agree that Peter quotes from the Hebrew Scrolls but Jesus quotes from the Septuagint. That total collection included the writings of the Maccabees as the history in the so-called years of silence between the Old and New Testaments.

Many godly Jews had fled Jerusalem when the clergy got their offices as high bidders. Even young men were forced to "wear the hat of Hermes" and serve as prostitutes IN Herod's Temple.

Disciples are STUDENTS and nothing beyond being a School of Christ (say the Campbells and the Bible) is a Church of Christ.

The Tilting Toward Babylon began at the final Jubilee held in Nashville and in Rome. The THESIS was the New Wineskin which would stretch to fit the "ever fermenting gospel". That was the first abomination alluded to in many passages: it just flits past your eyes in fractions of verses and no one asks "Saved or Safe by Grace through Faith" from WHAT? Ephesians 2:1 defines the FROM WHAT we are kept SAFE by grace (which teaches) and faith (which obeys)

Eph. 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph. 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.


You might enjoy reading what Jesus read or heard READ when He attended synagogue where the pattern was to PREACH the WORD by READING the WORD.

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Jesus said that the MEN were BOYS piping trying to get Him and others to lament or sing and dance. That was the Dionysus initiation into the always-gay priesthoods.

 
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Just checking my IP. Having a great day!

 
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Dionysus....No Go

September 11 2016, 9:41 AM 


I just checked and Dionysus is still not in the KJV Bible. I am old school. Ken have you cherry picked from another translation? Again?

 
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Re: Dionysus....No Go

September 11 2016, 11:42 AM 

Neither is:

Your song book (a hymn is a prayer so you use a PRAYER BOOK)
Your command to SING which is OPPOSITE to SPEAK
Your claiming that MELODY means HARMONY which produces KOMA
Your LAW of Laying By in Store to divert the money from the poor
Your READING as an ACT even if we read verse 3d.
Your prayer LEADER as an act of worship.
Your Preacher (a Kerusso is a HERALD without a GO BUTTON)
Your violation of the Direct command and example of self-assembly once on the first day of the week. Since you do not intend to hold a SCHOOL for DISCIPLES, the multiplication of times and event is LADING BURDENS Jesus died to REMOVE. He synagogued on two first days of the week and they DIDN'T sing or pass the plate. The ministers like Timothy WORKED so that He could "minister" to the poor and not be ministered to.

Dionysus, like Nimrod, was-is a god of many names. If you SING that which is not written for our learning you might be drunk on the wine of Dionysus: You don't have to know him for him to know you. Apollon is the personified "spirit" and the leader of the Muses, Locusts, adulterers and you won't tell people about Apollon as a name of the Jew's god when they were turned over to worship the starry hose. The SERVICE the Jacob-cursed and God-abandoned Levites performed has the same meaning as Abaddon or Apollon. All I can tell you is that the "god" of the progressives working DESPERATELY HARD will not be Jesus or His Father because His kingdom does not come to religious OBSERVATIONS.


    
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Invasion of Messianic Judaism as one MARK

September 22 2016, 5:36 PM 

In the Worship of the Dead Garnier (1909) observes what Scripture makes clear.

It has been concluded by those who have studied the subject that the gods best known among the ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians and Babylonians, such as Cronus, Saturn, Bel, II, Thoth, Hermes, Bacchus, Mercury, Osiris, Dionysius, Thammuz, Apollo, Horus, Mars, Hercules and Jupiter, are all one and the same god, each being the separate deification of him under different aspects and attributes .


Of the Jews who claim that the NEW COVENANT is made with the Jews and Gentiles still have the same right to join in. This is the prevailing teaching at once-Christian universities and defunct churches: Hermes or KAIROS is the "conductor of dead spirits into HELL. The Spirit OF Christ in Isaiah 30 says that the MARKS will be the sounds of wind, string and percussion instruments. These are the same instruments "Lucifer (from Halal) the singing and harp-playing prostitute brought with him-her-it into the garden of Eden. They are the instruments of the "lusted after fruits" as craftsmen, singers, instrument players under the same Babylon Mother of Harlots. The Spirit OF Christ marked them in the prophets and apostles. Those who are strongly deluded allow Hermes or Kairos to lock them into the Jewish Covenant with Death and Hell.

Is. 28:15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
Is. 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
Is. 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
Is. 28:18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Remembering that The Word or Logos is the Regulative Principle which the neo-pagans (casting visions) DENOUNCE with hissing and venom.

The Word of God and the Spirit of God appeal to the heart and conscience and the moral and spiritual part of man, opening his eyes to the truth, to the good of righteousness, to the promises of the future, and to the mercy of God, changing thereby his mind 358 THE WORSHIP OF THE DEAD and affections, and producing in him hope in, and love towards God. But the ritual of idolatry appealed only to the senses, imagina- tion, and the psychical or natural part of man

The word 'psychical " is from " the soul," or " natural life," ^and it is the term used by the Apostolical writers
.....to distinguish that which is natural," or characteristic of man by nature,
.....from that ' which is spiritual, and it is usually translated in the New Testament by the word " natural." It refers to the passions, sentiments and affections which are called forth by the things of time and sense, and includes, not merely the grosser passions, but the feelings and sentiments evoked by music and art and anything of merely rnaterial beauty and grandeur.

This was the character of the ancient Paganism. It appealed solely to the senses. Its splendour and magnificence, the stirring: and solemn strains of its music, its sumptuous surroundings, its air of mystery and awe, its mighty ; temples, whose vast and silent aisles and " gloom impressive told a god dwelt there," had a powerful effect on the senses and imagination, calling forth in the more religious those temporary emotions and passing sentiments of piety, which men, at all times, have mistaken for spirituality, but which are purely psychical feelings,

if. i.e., feelings produced, not by any appeal to the conscience and moral faculties, which is the effect of religious truth, but entirely by these appeals to the senses and imagination. Hence, not only was the trust and dependence of the Pagan placed on material and created things, but his mind and affections were absorbed in that which was natural and sensual. His very piety was the outcome of imagination and psychical feeling, and the greater his devotion the more effectually did this false piety shut out from his mind everything of a moral and spiritual nature, and blind him to the demands of true righteousness

The Pagan devotee was thus wholly separated from the true God, — accursed, or cut off, from His guidance and protection ; and Scripture implies that there are legions of evil spirits ever ready to enter into, or delude and pervert, the minds of those deprived of that protection, and thus complete and confirm their separation from God.


After Rick Atchley and a band of purpose driven discorders began to question God's power of command, example or even inference for a devoted Disciple (only) of Christ through His Word, Rick claims that "a" spirit told him--after a decade--that God COMMANDED the instrumental praise which was the soothsaying or sorcery of the Jews whom God had TURNED OVER to worship the starry host. Scripture and this writer prove that they have taken the fork in the road and led a few dozen others into the NACC camp regularly denouncing the Church of Christ which FEEDS them in violation of the command NOT to pay for the "free water of the Word."

But that which made the Pagan devotee still more hopelessly accursed or cut off from God was the fact that the gods he worshipped and trusted in, and whose guidance and assistance he sought, were those very evil spirits

It is not to be supposed that the ancient Pagans, any more than ' Ovid, Fasti, lib. iii. ; Potter, bk. ii. chap. ii. p. 201

THE MORAL ASPECT OF PAGANISM 359 modern Spiritualists [Spiritual formation, Lectio-Divina by feminists at LU], avowedly worshipped evil spirits, or that Paganism in its ultimate form, when its chief god was identified with the Prince of Evil, was the result of a deliberate and sinister design by a succession of wicked men, working with one accord from generation to generation with that purpose in view.


Judas didn't know that he was the Devil's GOAT until Jesus hand-fed him the SOP which has the same meaning as the code-word PSALLO.

Everything points to the fact that it was the result of a process of gradual development, in which men, ignorant of the true God, were led to adopt, little by little, the different features on which the system was built up; and that the guiding spirit, from first to last of this development, was him "who deceiveth the whole world," "the I spirit which worketh in the children of disobedience," and who by this means obtained for himself the open worship of the bulk of the human race, and became in very truth, as stated by the Apostle, " the god of this world."


Apollon or Abbadon a name of the SUN god to which the Levites SERVED with instrumental prophesying is the ONLY personified "spirit" and the leader of the Locusts which are the MUSES (like Graces) noted as usurping SHEPHERDESSES and dirty adulteresses.


    
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