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Kairos Church Planting AMBUSH: Katanysxis: the Music-Stupor connection.

November 3 2016 at 1:52 PM
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The Kairos church Planting movement intends to REPLACE your congregation with the most ancient Paganism: Kairos or Hermes is the god of thieves and liars.

Dianna is reading an old CM post where the word Katanysxis is used. We are both researching and I have looked at a few verses where the word is used.

as it is written: "God gave them a spirit OF STUPOR, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day." Ro.11:8

Katanucis (g2659) kat-an'-oox-is; from 2660; a prickling (sensation, as of the limbs asleep), i.e. (by impl. [perh. by some confusion with 3506 or even with 3571]) stupor (lethargy): - slumber.

Katanusso (g2660) kat-an-oos'-so; from 2596 and 3572; to pierce thoroughly, i.e. (fig.) to agitate violently ("sting to the quick"): - prick.

ALL religious observations TO WHICH THE KINGDOM DOES NOT COME depends on inducing a KOMA to AMBUSH you and drag you off to Sodom or Babylon.

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Same Thing Different Day

November 3 2016, 3:09 PM 

From SLUMBER to STUPOR. That is EXACTLY what I mean. Ken, thinking he has whit and laughing at his own jokes.

slumber verb (used without object)
to sleep, especially lightly; doze; drowse.
to be in a state of inactivity, negligence, quiescence, or calm:

stupor (stupefy)
suspension or great diminution of sensibility, as in disease or as caused by narcotics, intoxicants, etc.:
He lay there in a drunken stupor.
mental torpor; stupefaction.

verb (used with object), stupefied, stupefying.
put into a stupor.
to stun, as with a narcotic, a shock, or a strong emotion.
to overwhelm with amazement; astound; astonish.

KJV states SLUMBER. Ken states STUPOR. Ken continues to STATE that he 'speaks that which is written' comes in conflict with what his theory and opinion holds, and ONLY THEN will he take change up the words a bit.

Stupor talks about shock, where Slumber talks of apathy.
THEY AREN'T even close. More proof that Ken SAYS one thing but DOES just as he wants.

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Re: Same Thing Different Day

November 3 2016, 3:22 PM 

HINT: music is the cause.

Thank God and medical science, I am ready for my second pot of coffee. Some things cannot be cured.

Good research: Here is what David Young and HIS elders want to produce as SHOCK AND AWE worship service. overwhelm with amazement; astound; astonish.

On my alert days they called that witchcraft or sorcery (Revelation 18)

And with MY money!

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Same thing different day

November 3 2016, 4:16 PM 

Are we not supposed to suppress the passions? This way we don't think with our emotions, or react emotionally when we are under threat...we can be cool headed and use our brain to make decisions. I'm not so much talking about physical threat, as I'm speaking of spiritual threats.

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Re: Same thing different day

November 4 2016, 10:33 AM 

If you speak the Word Jesus guarantees that you will be attacked. A koma or stupor induced by what Jesus called the hypocrites--speakers, singers or instrument players.

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First look at KOMA

November 3 2016, 8:50 PM 

Abraham could have read clay tablets connecting the invention of musical instruments as virtual "weapons of mass destruction." ALL musical terms point to witchcraft or sorcery as purely mechanical without any boiling cauldrons. Before connecting Katansxis with the hypocrites in Isaiah 29 as singers, instrument players or actors or dancers, take another look at the meaning of KOMA. Rick Atchley and all of the apostates boast about subjecting "our youth to the best 'christian' bands: we taught our youth to leave our movement." You don't need a lesson plan to get someone hooked on cocaine.

Revelation 18 calls the singers, players and all religious operatives SORCERERS and says that they CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

The end time musical sorcerers according to Jude were FOREORDAINED and all of their "audience" is so cultified that even when they need to flee Babylon the sorcerers have planted great fear such as being labeled a sectarian, patternist, hypocrite. I watched a program of a woman deprogrammed from alcohol for 9 months and she relapsed in 2 weeks. The same is true of music which is much more addictive, you probably cannot be deprogrammed because you are OF the World and lie about their being a Christian World View

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Isaiah 29 - Ephesians 5 Katanuxis A

November 4 2016, 5:39 PM 

Beginning in 1984 one century from the Instrumental attack in 1874 to say that most of the time, money and energy has been spent on worship services. "Church is only concerned with worship" was the widely adopted theme as the Purpose Driving the Nashville Jubilee following the Pope's call for Jubilee 2,000. Whatever the topic -- Exodus, Judges, Revelation etal-- the AGENDA was to try to follow the lead of the NACC to transistion all churches of Christ into the Instrumental Sect.

No one seems interested in studying the Scriptures without any hidden agenda. However, that is God's Purpose and the timing was perfect and more violent than any of us expected to experience.

Stupor, Koma, Perturbo is always PROPHESIED by the Spirit OF Christ and made more certain by Jesus and left for our memory by the Apostles. The WEAPON is always some form of Rhetoric, Singing or Playing instruments. These are the HYPOCRITES named when Jesus quoted Isaiah 29 and Ezekiel 33.

The most STUNNING mark is C. Leonard Allen saying that God is ECSTATIC or out of His Mind.

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Re: Katanysxis: the Music-Stupor connection. Ephesians 5

November 5 2016, 11:53 AM 

Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites: He quotes Isaiah 29 and Ezekiel 33 to MARK self-serving preachers, singers or instrument players. They were God's mark of those who WOULD NOT either prech or teach the Word.

The Spirit OF Christ warns everyone to be amazed with SHOCK AND AWE by people who are DRUNKEN but not with wine or strong drink.

While the theologians use Ephesians 5 to say that God commanded THEM to impose musical instruments and make "worship SHOCK AND AWE", Paul was speaking of those who "got drunk on wine in the Dionysia with singing and other WRATH or orgies.

It was particularly Olympias, the mother of Alexander the Great, who spread the wild orgies [WRATH] of the women who worshiped Dionysus in Macedonia (see Plutarch Lives, Alexander 2. 5–6; and Wilamowitz-Moellendorf, Der Glaube, 2:61–62).

The Dionysian Background of Ephesians 5:18 Cleon L. Rogers, Jr.

The name "Dionysus" signifies "son of Zeus". The worship of Dionysus spread throughout Asia Minor, Macedonia, Greece, Italy, Egypt, Palestine, and even remote India (Cleon L. Rogers, Jr, "The Dionysian Background of Ephesians 5:18", Bibliotheca Sacra, July-September 1979, pp 250,251).

The city of Ephesus itself was filled with the worship, not only of Diana (or Artemis), but also of Dionysus -- according to the ancient historian Plutarch.

The cult of Dionysus was so widespread and common that anything having to do with grapes or wine was at once connected in the popular mind with the worship of the wine-god. To talk of wine and drinking immediately brought Dionysian expressions into the conversation, and to live a riotous, wanton, debauched life was characterized as being a "Dionysian" (Ibid, p 253). Witness also the English "bacchanalian", from Bacchus. JB Norris speaks of the social gatherings of the heathen, "where idolatrous rites were practised and the singing waxed merry and lewd" (FCE 123,124).

As with the worship of Diana, that of Dionysus was heavily sexual. This worship, like. the nature religions of the Canaanites, with emphasis on pornographic images and vulgar songs, was supposed to please the god so that he would grant to his devotees the gifts of health and fertility (Jonathan Goldstein, I Maccabees, The Anchor Bible, p 133).

Praise songs are usually erotic and Jeff Walling want to sit in the lap of God and dance with Him.. The ""androgynous worship leader" is an affront and causes masses to flee.

“Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess, but be ye filled with the Spirit” (Eph 5:18, AV). The word translated “excess” basically means “without health,” or “incurable.” The word then refers to “one who by his manner of life, especially by dissipation destroys himself.”41 After discussing the various uses of the word, especially in the New Testament, Foerster concludes, “In all these passages the word signifies wild and disorderly rather than extravagant or voluptuous living.” Though not limited to Dionysian practices, this is certainly a fitting and descriptive term to describe the behavior of Dionysian worshipers. There was no salvation in being filled with the spirit of Dionysus; only wild behavior accompanied such filling. It seems significant that the things Paul wrote about in Ephesians 5:19–33 have to do with some matters which played a vital part in the Dionysian worship. First, there is the mention of singing (v. 19). This is the singing of spiritual songs to the Lord Himself, not the raving of drunken worshipers singing the praises of Dionysus. Second, there is the giving of thanks for all things (v. 20)

Carol Wimber and the FULLER EFFECT as New Wineskins and performing women.

He visits his people with manifestations of the Holy Spirit. "Thus worship has a two-fold aspect: communication with God through the basic means of singing and praying, and communication from God though teaching and preaching the word, prophecy, exhortation, etc. We lift him up and exalt him, and as a result are drawn into his presence where he speaks to us."

The fourth phase is described as "God Visits His People when "Expression then moves to a zenith, a climactic point, not unlike physical lovemaking... We have expressed what is in our hearts and minds and bodies, and now it is time to wait for God to respond.
Stop talking and wait for Him to speak, to move. I call this, the fourth phase, visitation:

People boast about USING WOMEN in a visible-audible sense understanding that they will attract an audience. Paul in corrupting the Word and the Greeks called sophists (speakers for sale, singers or instrument players) prostitutes. The SHOCK AND AWE using music, instruments, clapping, shouting brings on wrath or an ORGY.

Those who lie about the MUSIC sowing of discord and lie about Paul and the WORD as the Spirit OF Christ are OF the World and they have no choice but to let the Locusts (Muses) cull them out.

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Re: Katanysxis: the Music-Stupor connection. Ephesians 5

November 7 2016, 8:56 PM 

Katanysxis: the Music-Stupor connection. Ephesians 5

When Jesus marked the Scribes and Pharisees as hypocrites he quotes Isaiah 29. However, the same story is included in Ezekiel 33 where the hypocrites are names as self-authoring and entertaining preachers, singers and instrument players. They are DRUNKEN WITHOUT WINE. Paul explains how that was happening in Ephesus and why they should fill up with the WORD of God instead of being filled to EXCESS with Dionysus.

Eph. 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph. 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Excess defines the effect of the "getting drunk on wine" orgies (wrath) of Dionysus which was a real danger in Ephesus.

luxŭrĭo , B. Of style: “in qua (oratione),animals: wantonness, friskiness, frolicsomeness, riotous living, extravagance, profusion, luxury, excess:

The Command was to SPEAK that which is written for our learning (Romans 15)
AND ODE and PSALLO are in the heart which defines silent.

The word drunk or METHE means to be FULL of something and implies STUPOR or the inability to understand WORDS because of MUSIC. Even in the Symposium where the 'crooked race' used wine and the harp boy and flute girl to stimulate the wine drinking, if they needed to discuss anything they sent the boys and girls out. There are many proofs that musicians INTENDED to dumb down the audience so they could be fleeced.

Plutarch agrees with other history that the "god" of the Jews was Dionysus: they piped hoping to get Jesus to lament (sing) and dance while being initiated into the gay priesthood. When Jesus refused to bow down they murdered Him. Amos and Stephen along with much of the Old Testament NAMES the gods the Jews worshipped after God turned them over to worship the starry host.

The TRIGGER to the end time apostasy began with the New Wineskins Magazine and the Dionysus wineskins definition of a church able to STRETCH and contain all of the fermenting and changing world.

This is what Paul tried to prevent in Ephesus. THIS is what tyrants impose in legalistic Worship Services fleecing the widows to pay THEIR staff.

Plutarch Marcus Antonius:

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Re: Katanysxis: the Music-Stupor connection. Ephesians 5

November 13 2016, 10:30 PM 

"Hebrew music... was used in the luxurious times of the later monarchy the effeminate gallants of israel, reeking with perfumes, and stretched upon their couches of ivory, were wont at their banquets to accompany the song with the tinkling of the psaltery or guitar (Am. v1. 4-6), and amused themselves with devising musical instruments while their nation was perishing... music was the legitimate expression of mirth and gladness, and the indication of peace and prosperity." (Smith's, Music, p. 590).

"That chant to the voice of the lyre, accompanying the voice of the lyre with the human voice, giving vocal expression and utterance to what the instrumental music spoke without words. The word, which Amos alone uses in this one place, describing probably 'a hurried flow of unmeaning, unconsidered words, in which the rhythm of words and music was everything, the sense, nothing; much like most glees. The E.M. 'quaver' has also some foundation in the root, but does not suit the idiom so well, which expresses that the act was something done to the voice of the lyre, accompanying the music, not altering the music itself." (Barnes, Albert, Amos, p. 303).

"And every improper sight and sound, to speak in a word, and every shameful sensation of licentiousness--which, in truth, is privation of sensation--must by all means be excluded; and we must be on our guard against whatever pleasure titillates eye and ear, and effeminates. For the various spells of the broken strains and plaintive numbers of the Carian muse corrupt men's morals, drawing to pertubation of mind, by the licentious and mischievous art of music." (Clement of Alexandria, Instructor, Eerdmans, p. 248)

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February 6 2017, 10:09 PM 

Quite literally God used earthen vessels to preserve the truth to be revealed at the right time.

We have noted that the IGNORED ISAIAH document describes the future REST of Messiah as the Ekklesia or Synagogue (only) both inclusively and exclusively. The Music Folly is well documented as being outlawed and as a MARK of those silencing the WORD by ancient and modern Jews who have a COVENANT WITH DEATH AND HELL. The Amos Music-Produces-Ignorance message was a feast with and for dead ancestors. We still worship Fanny Crosby's songs more than Scriptural songs.

The Isaiah Scroll, designated 1Qlsa and also known as the Great Isaiah Scroll, is one of the seven Dead Sea Scrolls that were first recovered by Bedouin shepherds in 1947. The scroll is written in Hebrew and contains the entire Book of Isaiah from beginning to end, apart from a few small damaged portions. It is the oldest complete copy of the Book of Isaiah known,[1] being 1100 years older than the Leningrad Codex, and the most complete scroll out of the 220 found at Qumran. Pieces of the Isaiah Scroll have been carbon-14 dated at least four times, giving calibrated date ranges between 335-324 BC and 202-107 BC;

Many of the Psalms were found at the Dead Sea including Psalm 41 which people are unable to read because they believe that defining words to them is evil.. We will look at 2 Chronicles 20 to see how the Jacob-cursed and God-Abandoned and Progressive's Pattern were used to SET AMBUSH.

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We have noted of Ephesians 4 used to promote UNITY where you submit to THEIR DIVERSITY that the cunning craftsmen or Sophists are slick speakers for hire, singers or instrument players. Jesus as HOLY SPIRIT instructed Paul to say that you should understand that THEY ARE LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE Which means to SET AMBUSH seduce you away from the WAY that is called a SECT: a very narrow sect..

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Re: Music to SET AMBUSH

February 7 2017, 12:05 PM 

Psalm 41 shows that the Judas character pretending to be a friend of Jesus will attempt to spook, alarm, triumph over or silence Jesus. This was fulfilled when the Jews MOCKED Jesus to the Cross.

DSS: They have overtaken me in a narrow pass (gap) without escape
.....And there is no rest for me in my trial.
.....They sound my censure upon a harp
.....and their murmuring and storming upon a zither." Ps.41:1 9
DSS: My strength has gone from my body
.....and my heart runs out like water; flesh is dissolved (melted) like wax
.....and the strength of my loins is turned to fear.

DSS: My arm is torn from its socket
.....and I can lift my hand no more;
.....My foot is held by fetters
.....and my knees slide like water;
.....I can no longer walk

DSS: I cannot step forward lightly,
.....For my legs and arms are bound by shackl
.....which cause me to stumble.
.....The tongue is gone back which Thou didst
.....make marvelously mighty within my mouth;

it can no longer give voice.
.....I have no word for my disciples revive the spirit of those who stumble
.....and to speak words of support to the weary.
.....My circumcised lips are dumb

After Victory, Jesus will use FIGURATIVE instruments:

DSS: I will groan with the zither OF lamentation all grief-stricken mourning and bitter complaint
.....until iniquity and wickedness are consumed
.....and the disease-bringing scourge is no more.

An evil disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto him: and now that he lieth he shall rise up no more. Ps.41:8

DSS: Then will I play on the zither OF deliverance
.....and harp OF joy,
.....on the tabors OF prayer
.....and the pipe OF praise
.....without end.

By definition MUSIC derived from MYSTERY means to SHUT THE MOUTH and no one can doubt that the Invasion of the Soul Snatchers using music are Purpose Driven to make the WORD of Jesus silent. However, Jesus representing the TINY minority will revive and He will spread the WORD by the use of the God-Given "organs" of human speech.

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Re: Psalm 41 Music to set AMBUSH: Katanysxis: the Music-Stupor connection.

February 7 2017, 11:28 PM 

We have shown many times that religious music is identified as soothsaying and/or Sorcery which is used interchangeably since meat inspection and the HOLOCAUST of the innocents went together. The self-speakers, singers or instrument players are called SOPHISTS by Paul meaning speakers, singers or instrument players FOR HIRE are EXCLUDES in order that the Word might be read and discussed and they are LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE. There are many examples and no exception that according to Jude are are FOREORDAINED from old. The speakers, singers or instrument players who HAD ONCE deceived the whole world are to be CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

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The Jews claimed that all of Canaan was theirs and that God had given them the authority to DESTROY the owners of the land instead of, as Israelites or Abrahamic, they should be a blessing. The land promise expired when the people rose up in instrumental-trinitarian-perverted idolatry. God then and there sentenced them to eventual captivity and death. The Prophets warn about the "lying pen of the Scribes" and Jesus called them hypocrites. Only the prophets by the Spirit OF Christ certified by Jesus and recorded by the Apostles are the upbuilding, edification or EDUCATION of the Church of Christ.

Whatever one believes the use of loud singing and banging on instruments "makes the lambs dumb before the slaughter" and is always the mark of a sectarian who chooses to take YOUR property for THEIR use.

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More Setting AMBUSH

February 8 2017, 1:29 PM 

Setting Ambush Rick Atchley And all of the Purpose Driven Apostates.

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Rock and Roll "Sexuality and gender have always been blurred in rock'n'roll " Musicians had always attracted attention of "groupies" (girls who followed musicians) who spent time with and often performed sexual favors for band members.

A Sectarian or Heretic is one who makes the CHOICE to steal your property for HIS OWN USE. The Self-Pleasure in Romans 15 uses the word Ariskos which has the same root as Aeido or singing. The Latin Placeo includes all of the ANTICS outlawed so that we might obey the PATTERN to "use one mind and one mouth to speak that which is written for or LEARNING" meaning he says "Scripture for our comfort" rather than Atchley Purpose Driven upsetting of comfort zones.

Arab includes LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE: that is why Jesus as HOLY SPIRIT conveyed SPIRITUAL instructions to Paul to warn that the speakers, singers or instrument players are LYING IN WAIT TO DECEIVE.

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Setting Ambush to Steal a Wife

Judg. 21:19 Then they said, Behold, there is a feast of the LORD in Shiloh yearly in a place which is on the north side of Bethel, on the east side of the highway that goeth up from Bethel to Shechem, and on the south of Lebonah.
Judg. 21:20 Therefore they commanded the children of Benjamin, saying, Go and lie in wait in the vineyards;
Judg. 21:21 And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin.
Judg. 21:22 And it shall be, when their fathers or their brethren come unto us to complain, that we will say unto them, Be favourable unto them for our sakes: because we reserved not to each man his wife in the war: for ye did not give unto them at this time, that ye should be guilty.
Judg. 21:23 And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught: [plucked or robbed] and they went and returned unto their inheritance, and repaired the cities, and dwelt in them.

Is. 59:1 Behold, the LORD’S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
Is. 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Is. 59:3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.
Is. 59:4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity [h8414Tohuw], and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity.

Mutter 1897 hagah, daw-gaw´; a primitive root (compare 1901); to murmur (in pleasure or anger); by implication, to ponder:—imagine, meditate, mourn, mutter, roar, x sore, speak, study, talk, utter.

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Miriam and the Levites "prophesied with instruments" and the word is soothsaying. They were called PRIMARY PARASITES or the First Speakers.

Because there was NO MAN God sent His ARM or BRANCH to define the Church of Christ both Inclusively and exclusively. The apostates who murmur that there was no Bible for a PATTERN should note that the Isaiah Scroll was dated to long before BC and defines the future REST FROM any form of Clergy.

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A Church of Christ is a School of the Word and nothing can be imposed without the work of those OF the World or "angels of light."

A Church OF Christ is called the WAY THAT IS CALLED A SECT. It is very narrow, exclusive and its preachers will never be rich or famous or parade around in Stunning Outfits. The mock the OLD PATHS because "it is not given to them to know" or speak the Word of God: of those who do NOT speak what God has provided the Spirit OF Christ says THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM.

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Setting Ambush for Jesus Psalm 59

February 10 2017, 11:06 AM 

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The Kairos Church Planting: Ambush and Koma

March 11 2017, 10:20 PM 

The Kairos Church Planters actively try to plant churches opposed to the Biblical Pattern, the Logos. Kairos or Hermes was the god of thieves and liars and the MESSENGER between men and the gods. God as Logos speaks only through Jesus as the audible-visible Word or God's Regulative Principle.

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