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Ken Sublett
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Re: Does this verse really say that?

February 13 2017, 1:50 PM 

Coffman is the only writer within Churches of Christ who understands that when God turned the Jews over to worship the starry host and sentenced them to captivity and death, He DID NOT command what they did in the sacrificial system or any of the Kingdom periods.

1Cor. 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ,
.....and stewards of the mysteries of God.

A steward guards the Word best by not adding anything to it.

g3623. oikonomos, oy-kon-om´-os; from 3624 and the base of 3551; a house-distributor (i.e. manager), or overseer, i.e. an employee in that capacity; by extension, a fiscal agent (treasurer); figuratively, a preacher (of the Gospel): — chamberlain, governor, steward.

Elders and Preachers are FEEDERS and they cannot produce the food.

gg3551. nomos, nom´-os; from a primary ne÷mw nemo (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), genitive case (regulation), specially, (of Moses (including the volume); also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle): — law.


1Cor. 4:2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.
.....yea, I judge not mine own self.
1Cor. 4:4 For I know NOTHING by myself;
.....yet am I not hereby justified:
.....but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

The Word or Logos is the regulative principle which outlaws anything that speakers, singers or instrument players can produce. The TRUTH i THE WORD and an APT elder is a steward who preserves that Word.

Rev. 1:3 Blessed is he that READETH,
.....and they that hear the words of this prophecy,
.....and KEEP those things which are written therein:
.....for the time [KAIROS] is at hand.

1Cor. 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come,
.....who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness,
.....and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts:
.....and then shall every man have praise of God.
1Cor. 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes;
.....that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written,
.....that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

False teaching usually or more depends on a person who has an unnatural charisma so that if they tell you that he gets his information directly from "a spirit" and is post-biblical most of the masses will believe him most of the time. Rhetoric or any kind of music is well documented to fool the "simple minded" who believe that they are superior. Superior people would never lie to you.

If a person does not speak that which is written, the Spirit OF Christ says THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM.

1Tim. 5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels,
.....that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.
James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated,
.....full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

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Dianna Howell
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I shouldn't do exegesis either

February 13 2017, 2:07 PM 

I think Mr. Coffman is a good teacher too. I just showed an example of my own exegesis, instead of letting scripture interpret scripture. Sorry people!

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Ken Sublett
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Re: I shouldn't do exegesis either

February 13 2017, 2:20 PM 

When people lie about Scripture you are forced to explain what normal people understand from the text. If people say for a decade or more that the SON is the FATHER you have to appeal to all of the arguments in Scripture.

As long as you explain it to mean what others should understand that's fine.

You can post these proofs beginning with the garden of Eden and the "progressives" will say that there is no biblical pattern so they get to impose their own

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