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Sarge
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Re: Government

January 20 2017, 9:06 AM 



"It's time to drain the swamp" happy.gif

Something is wrong on this thread. I won't spill the beans just yet. Ken, you need to be in charge of clean up.


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Scripture
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Re: Government

January 21 2017, 2:50 PM 

He wouldn't want to throw out sarge-agator.

 
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Sarge
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Re: Government

January 22 2017, 4:28 PM 


Swamp was drained. Ken, any ideals? What could it be? Anyone?


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Ken Sublett
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Re: Government

January 22 2017, 4:33 PM 

We don't elect politicians to be our pastors even though it might be an improvement in places.

I have confidence only in me and thee and I have my doubts about thee.

Watch Atlanta beat em up!


    
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Donnie
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Your sense is non[-]

January 23 2017, 3:56 AM 

Dave's earlier assumption: "I am sensing, from Ken, that he isn't on the Trump wagon. ... You either didn't vote or voted for Hillary???"

I really liked Ken's response: "Your sense is non"

Yes! Yes! Yes! President Donald J. Trump!!!

(The liberals and progressives in the political world are very disappointed and outraged -- just can't get over it. I would think that the liberals and progressives in the church have the same attitude and behavior when they don't get their way.)

 
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Sarge
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Re: Your sense is non[-]

January 23 2017, 7:36 AM 


"Your sense is non" is just another example that Ken can not answer a direct question in the normal sense.

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Hillary was born in Chicago. I think she should move back there. However, Bill is just a good ole boy. He

just got in over his head. Maybe, Arkansas in where they belong. I wish them well.


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Dave
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Be Careful What You Say Little Lips....Be careful what.....

January 23 2017, 3:47 PM 

Donnie said "I would think that the liberals and progressives in the church have the same attitude and behavior when they don't get their way."

Is that like when you didn't/haven't got your way with Madison and the leadership?

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Scripture
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Re: Your sense is non[-]

January 23 2017, 5:00 PM 

It was difficult to show how clearly obvious it is that previous administrations would be than any better than a potential Trump administration. Many forgotten voters decided the change was worth the risk. Donnie's reference to Paul's advice in Timothy must be observed--to pray for leaders.

 
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Ken Sublett
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ConcernedMembersMadison
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Re: Your sense is non[-]

January 23 2017, 7:32 PM 

If you want to wade through the swampiest politics just watch the boys and girls pretending to be religionists adopt the same practice.

We speak the truth one to another after the pattern of Jesus in order to communicate: if you ask us for bread we do not give you a serpent and claim that no one says that a serpent is not bread.

However, politicians and Theologians (the study of Apollon) use words as WEAPONS. Even when they and you know that it is a lie, you will still PAY them to Lie to you perhaps both, according to Jude, are FOREORDAINED to act out an eternal drama.

Jude 3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Jude 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Jude 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

 
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Sarge
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How did you vote?

January 23 2017, 10:38 PM 


I voted for Trump.

 
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Ken Sublett
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ConcernedMembersMadison
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Re: How did you vote?

January 23 2017, 11:45 PM 

Me Too: you cannot take care of health, education or those who CANNOT take care of themselves by the historic PATTERN. That pattern is that governments exist to exert the will of an alpha male to take and hold turf and kill as many people as you can.

That historic pattern has not changed from Cain (Agriculturists) and Abel (Pastoral). Why shouldn't government see itself as a business to make money for its stockholders.

Eph. 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

A minister or deacon serves his elders or the poor (not rulers)

 
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Sarge
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Re: How did you vote?

January 24 2017, 12:23 PM 



Is Script willing to tell us how Script voted?

 
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Scripture
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Re: How did you vote?

January 24 2017, 3:07 PM 

The devil took Jesus upon a high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world.

"All these I will give you", he said, "if you will fall down and worship me." Jesus told the devil to leave Him, because "you shall worship the Lord God, and Him only shall you serve!"

Is participation in government a "Faustian" bargain, where we sell our soul for a few years of hope?

Does the devil control the kingdoms of the world?

 
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Bill
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Re: How did you vote?

January 24 2017, 4:32 PM 

I don't believe Script decided to tell us how he voted. Maybe he didn't vote at all. BTW, I also voted for Trump. happy.gif

 
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Sarge
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Re: How did you vote?

January 24 2017, 11:38 PM 



This was between Jesus and the devil. How does Script fit in?....???

 
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Sarge
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Re: How did you vote?

January 25 2017, 9:21 PM 


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Donnie
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Re: How did you vote?

January 25 2017, 9:49 PM 

And...?

 
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Re: How did you vote?

January 26 2017, 1:35 PM 

........OUT OF HERE!





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Scripture
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Re: How did you vote?

January 29 2017, 3:42 PM 

Perhaps one day I will reveal that information.

I would want the U.S. Government to be such as Jesus suggests, "But deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever."

I would act in such a way as to bring peace to the earth, and to create equal opportunities to all citizens.

 
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