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Donnie
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Are You There, God? It's You, Jesus!!!

January 16 2017, 3:11 AM 

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We hope to continue the discussion in the "Jehovah's Witnesses" thread.

 
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Sarge
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Long Time Coming

January 23 2017, 10:43 AM 

I now know Script's gender. Ze is [linked image]


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Scripture
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Re: Long Time Coming

February 9 2017, 5:25 PM 

Gender friendly translations normally use the plural "they" to confirm text includes both male & female. Use singular he or she if gender is specific.

Literal translations translate as is. Younger generations don't understand they say use of "he" to be genderless. This is how deep the problem is.

Problem is that plural references to singular nouns is bad grammar. This is why some advocate using "zhe." Sorry Sarge.

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: The Gender-Neutral Movement

February 16 2017, 3:09 PM 

Sara Barton is the love live of WORKSHOPS on female preachers. She wrote an article of the Song of Solomon for her PATTERN even reading it and discussing her sex life in Pepperdine University Classes.

http://www.piney.com/Sara.Barton.The.Song.of.Solomon.html

She proves that you can be a professor without being able to read.

 
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William
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Re Sara Barton

February 17 2017, 9:51 PM 

Can we all ever agree on anything. How about one thing? Can we all just agree that Sara Barton is kind of cute?

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Re Sara Barton

February 17 2017, 11:19 PM 

Paul ABSOLUTELY silences women in that short assembly and gives Sara no role or dole to serve as PASTOR over her flock. Women were to be silent and sedentary "so that all might be SAFE and come to a knowledge of THE TRUTH." There is one God and One mediator and Paul warns the women as the only pretenders that she is not the MEDIATOR in song or sermon.

At 86 I would not be SAFE but since she has almost no Bible speak maybe I could be excused. Paul understood that if you are invaded by a Witch or Sorcerer it will ALMOST ALWAYS be a woman

You wouldn't expect the fellas often mocked for their gender flaws to pick a fat, ugly 90 year old BEST BIBLE SCHOLAR in the world. She would not be an attractant to suck in the butterflies.

Paul begans by silencing the Uncovered Prophesiers who are are identified by Paul:

1Cor. 14:19 Yet in the church I had rather SPEAK five words with my understanding,
that by my VOICE I might teach others also,
than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

Speaking an unknown tongue includes playing musical instruments which Paul identifies as LIFELESS.

MIRIAM and the Levites who prophesied with instruments were:

prŏphēta and prŏphētes , ae, m., = prophētēs,
I.a foreteller, soothsayer, prophet
sacerdotes Aegyptiorum, quos prophetas vocant,” Macr. S. 7, 13, 9: “Aegyptius, propheta primarius

Primarius one of the first, of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent, remarkable (class.): “primarius parasitus,the first speaker, he who has a right to be heard usually FEMINA

 
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Re: Re Sara Barton

February 18 2017, 12:06 AM 

She is a southern sounding woman and does have an the charm that goes with it.

 
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Dave
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Love Live

February 17 2017, 10:26 PM 

What is "love live?"

 
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Scripture
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Re: Love Live

February 18 2017, 9:48 AM 

I do know that a "love life" indicates the person is "sexually active" as social workers say.

Unless by "love" you mean agape rather than eros.


 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Love Live

February 18 2017, 11:01 AM 

Men almost always say WE USE WOMEN. Most female bible students should resent being used. Let's Sara Do the Shouting:

Sara Barton: Song of Songs is unique in several ways, one of which is the fact that it’s the only place in Scripture where a woman’s voice leads the conversation (the woman speaks 61 of 117 verses). In light of what we’ve heard lately, it seems like a good time to let a wise woman speak about sexual activity that’s right and good, a woman who not only speaks but sings and shouts about intimate, sensual, erotic passion. And in all her talk about kissing, touching, tasting, and smelling, she does not offend with crass or vulgar language. She exemplifies how it’s possible to speak about sex and intimacy appropriately. We might do well to let her teach us a thing or two.

Paul wants the men WITH holy hands to also be peaceable and silent to prevent the outbreak of WRATH. Wrath is orge or ORGY which is the worship of EROS

EROS was the primordial god (protogenos) of procreation who emerged self-formed at the dawn of creation. He was the driving force behind the generation of new life in the cosmos. The Orphics named him Phanes, a primal being hatched from the world-egg. He was also equivalent to Thesis (Creation) and Physis, (Nature).

The younger Eros, a mischievous godling armed with bow and arrows, was a son of the goddess Aphrodite.


http://www.theoi.com/Protogenos/Eros.html

The "lady" in the Song of Solomon is no lady but the women especially let Ishtar do the SPEAKING. This is an ancient ritual drama

After Israel fell into idolatry without redemption because of RISING UP IN PLAY God abandoned them to captivity and death. Moses wrote an INVERTED version of the Clay Tablets;

See Enki and the World order to see how Inanna lusted for the ME or powers.

http://www.piney.com/BabEnkiWorldOrd.html

This is the theme of Romans 1.

http://www.piney.com/Romans.1.html

See how the FEMALE under various names got EA drunk and stole the ME which were magical scrolls---the early CLAY song book--used to work magic, enchantment or SORCERY. That is why all musical terms and names of instruments include ENCHANTMENT: "Setting their lies to melodies to deceive the simple minds."

Never doubt, as H. Bamford Parkes says that "religious music is the ENHANCE the status of the Alpha Male or Senior Pastor.

The development both of religion and of the arts can be traced back in a continuous line to the hunting era. The group ritual of the primeval tribesmen were the origin not only of all religious ceremonial, but also of the drama and of poetry and music, while magic gave birth to the visual arts." (Parkes, Henry Bamford, On Gods and Men, p. 30).

"Awed by the mysteries of his own spirit no less than by those of nature, primitive man was likely to attribute to divine influence

any abnormal emotional state, whether above or below the usual level. Medicine men customarily went into states of trance in which they were believed to be in communication with the gods,

and many tribes supposed lunatics and sexual deviants to be divinely possessed.


http://www.piney.com/BabEaGifts.html
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Scripture
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Re: Love Live

February 18 2017, 12:55 PM 

Jesus: "Peter, lovest thou me more than these?"

Peter: "Lord, thou knowest I love thee."

Jesus: "Feed my sheep."

A statement of how the love of Christ must extend to love of the "brethren."

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: Love Live

February 18 2017, 2:08 PM 

You forgot about loving the sistern!

 
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Scripture
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Re: Love Live

February 18 2017, 2:19 PM 

That's why I put brethren in quotes. We need help from Sarge. He has become a rank stranger. Too quick to follow Bill's lead and bail out.

Also sistern might be mistaken for cistern.happy.gif

 
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Ken Sublett
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They are not NOT gender-Neutral!

May 5 2017, 11:14 AM 

Plato uses double entendres to warn about religious craftsmen especially the shrill singers as liable to GENDER BLEED.

Mike Cope handles the workshops at Pepperdine and he and Jeff Walling have been hired to REprogram young conservative preachers. Updated.

http://www.piney.com/Mike.Cope.2017.PBL.Hieros.Gamos.html

They invite dozens of anyone they think is simple minded to participate in order to drag many preachers off into the words. Nothing that is taught by these men are not WELL MARKED as those OF the world for which Jesus did not pray. Neither He nor anyone of His little flock are OF this world: they are MARKED by speaking of themselves which Jesus identifies as the "sons of the Devil."

The Little Flock like Jesus who are FROM ABOVE and not part of the viper race will--without trying--obey the command to teach only what Jesus commanded to be taught and observed: that includes only the Prophets and Apostles which is what He calles Holy Scripture. The Word or Logos outlaws everything you will hear from what Ezekiel calls "workshops of evil" where men AND women go to "steal words one from another."

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