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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 19 2017, 12:15 AM 

Sarge, remember the verse, "it has not been given to all to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven." Matt. 13:11. Jesus says that we must ask, seek, and knock. Matt. 7:7. Then one may understand the mysteries. . . .

 
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Sarge
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 19 2017, 8:29 AM 


Ken, my question is: Will the poster "Scripture" burn for SINGING in the Church? Yes or No.

 
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Bill
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 19 2017, 11:33 AM 

Sarge, did Ken answer your question with a "Yes" or "No"? It's a bit hard to tell. happy.gif

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 19 2017, 10:54 AM 

A Christian is a Disciple is a Student of Christ. The week has 168 hours a week to be Disciples and vocational ministers. The Instruments and Burning point to the shepherds who feed themselves and the goats and do NOT supply FOOD for that once a week labor-intensive effort to "make the lambs dumb before the slaughter."

God BREATHED or inspired the Prophets and this is called the Spirit OF Christ. The prophets defined the REST of Christ both inclusively and exclusively. That PATTERN has just one piece and even the Lord's Supper is part of the same FEEDING with the WORD. Confessing the DEATH of Jesus made to be both Lord and Christ WILL silence those who are disciples. A Church of Christ is built upon or EDUCATED by the Prophets and the Apostles who were eye--and ear-- witnesses of Jesus fulfilling Scripture which spoke about HIM.

Ezek. 34:2 Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
Ezek. 34:3 Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.

Ezek. 34:8 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
Ezek. 34:9 Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;
Ezek. 34:10 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
Ezek. 34:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

Jude 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;


Close to the 24/7 house keeping and refusing to speak THAT WHICH IS WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING (that one-piece pattern). They won't Burn just for what the DO to the lambs: They will burn because of the musical Sinai event which is happening because "they are foreordained" for that purpose. They are the same World Spirits Jesus does not pray for.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 19 2017, 11:13 AM 

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Sarge
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 20 2017, 10:30 AM 



Update on Ken,



Ken's bread and butter.

Flood the thread.

Muddy the water.

Never answer a direct question.

Keep a Zeus action figure in pocket.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 20 2017, 10:49 AM 

You need something to drink. I was showing you how too many progressives are ruled by THEIR leader.


    
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 20 2017, 11:17 AM 


Ken,

Thanks for being a good sport.

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Sarge
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 21 2017, 1:46 PM 


 
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Scripture
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 21 2017, 2:50 PM 

A wise man once said, "if you point your finger at someone, you must realize that three fingers are pointing back at you."

 
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Ken Sublett
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Sabbath-Baptismos-School of the Word Only

January 21 2017, 2:19 PM 

A Christian is a Disciple is a Student of Christ exclusively: the Word or Logos outlaws both male and female speaking their own words, singing, playing instruments or acting. God hides from them and if they RULE then it cannot be a School of Christ.

Jesus would say that any personal input makes worship VAIN so it does not make any difference what the VAIN do to "make the lambs dumb and dumber before the slaughter."

The Church in the wilderness is defined as an ACADEMY such as the Schools of Philosophers the OPPOSITE of the Academies of the Cynics marked by "old types of praise singing" which was the howling of men SEEKING a mate and not SEEKING after God.

Worship IN SPIRIT is in the PLACE of the Spirit as it gives heed to THE TRUTH or the Word of Christ.
Paul insisted in worship IN THE SPIRIT and not IN THE FLESH because the concision and DOGS would be looking for sheep to devour which is a double entendre.

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Re: Sabbath-Baptismos-School of the Word Only

January 21 2017, 2:47 PM 

Baptist churches have been run traditionally by congregational government. This would imply the congregation has some means to control its own future, without their single pastor telling them what to do. Some say that the SBC has gravitated from congregational rule to pastor rule.

Many Baptists look at their pastor system as "elder rule" more or less, since their pastor is older than the average age in the congregation. There seems to be some turbulence in the SBC since they equate elders, pastors, and overseers as the same office but with just one for each congregation. Each congregation would have a single pastor who they also call an elder or an overseer. This is the pastor system that they refer to and to some extent that pastor/elder/overseer makes decisions on his own without advice from the deacons, or church committees.

This is hybrid to Churches of Christ who also equate pastor with elder and overseer, but that person is rarely the preacher. In the Churches of Christ, with elders assuming that they have the power, and there is always a plurality, the group of elders often squabble among themselves, and a certain number will side with the preacher, so the elder group loses its power, since it doesn't have a single vision.

The Achilles heel in the Churches of Christ is that the "eldership" sometimes becomes a self-perpetuating board which goes its own way, and refuses to take nominations for new elders from the congregation. Each congregation needs complete understanding about how new elders are selected, with the congregation having the right to nominate and appoint elders itself, without the elders becoming a self-perpetuating board.
Often the elder system shows its complete breakdown when they ask the preacher to leave.

In the SBC an aberrant pastor is even harder to get rid of.


 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 21 2017, 2:55 PM 

We have discussed the inability to read BLACK text on BROWN paper.

Gal. 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal. 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.


Paul silences both male roles marked by effeminacy and rejecting the word. The Women and effeminate think that selling their BODY parts proves that they are mediators in song and sermons.
Paul told the readers that women were excluded specificially because there is

One GOD
And one mediator between man and God
The MAN Jesus Christ.

Both male and female produced as boasted to FLOOD the market rest on the Law of Moses imposed because of instrumental-trinitarian-perverted idolatry. The bisexuals know that YOU cannot grasp that:

Gal. 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
Gal. 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal. 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal. 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal. 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


Both male and female who violate the direct commands of Scripture reject baptism.

Gal. 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal. 3:27 For [enim what I MEAN is] as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Continuing the strong deluders who believe their own lies they think that Paul said that 'BOTH male and female shall be self-preachers or pastors for which Christ gave no ROLE and no DOLE. Therefore, they have to fleece the widows which does not keep them from being thefts which are to burn along with liars and sorcerers--all anto-word preachers, singers or instrument players.

Sarge will still not be able to read and Bill will say that NEITHER means BOTH. For the little flock who cannot be seen or heard outside the School of the Word:

Gal. 3:28 There is NEITHER Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal. 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.


We can all SPEAK (opposite of ODE) the same things as long as we speak That which is written for our learning. Only LEERING elder-wolves cannot read their sole pattern to TEACH THAT WHICH HAS BEEN TAUGHT. If you take the Madoff out of religion the women won't need to be Public Offenders despised more by women than men.

God as FATHER which means TEACHER. There really are not that many women who will SELL their body parts and lie about the Spirit OF Christ saying that the WORD like water is NOT FOR SALE. Therefore, they have to lie TO the Spirit OF Christ and about Christ.

The Spirit of Christ left man MARKS: one was the Psallo or SOP mark and the other was elders turning WOLVES which word is a double entendre.

This is the right time or KAIROS to mount an attack: they boast about USING women but they reserve their OWN ROLES.

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That is why there is massive ROARING=GIGGLING and people get cast out of their own synagogue.

I hear that there are more PARASITES than lambs in the world.





 
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 21 2017, 3:19 PM 



Certainly, special allowances are due to a man that jumped from a BOEING 727 jet aircraft in 1971 in route to Seattle. It could explain a lot.

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Ken Sublett
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 21 2017, 3:38 PM 

My congregation was crushed by the instruments and women folly and they are still waiting for the older people to die out before doing what they failed to do the first time. Maury Hills is RUSS ADCOX'S church and is women centered and otherwise apostate.

http://www.piney.com/Russ.Adcox.Women.in.Ministry.html

You will note that Russ claims the role of Jesus like all Senior Pastors who claim that the elders are just shepherds of the King Set over Us.

Russ Adcox: 1) Why did you include the senior minister position with the elders? The reason I included this position as a restriction is because in many churches (including Maury Hills) the senior minister operates in a very similar capacity as an elder in that he provides authoritative teachingand oversees the affairs of the church. In our context, the elders have delegated a good deal of authority to me in regards to preaching/teaching, leading the staff, overseeing the daily operations/ministry of the church, having a vote in key decisions, etc.

I have heard enough of Russ Adcos to know that he is not able to do much but REFUTE the clear Text which he cannot grasp because strong delusions makes people filled with pride before the fall.

Deacons are the ministers and they are not SENIOR SERVANTS or slaves of others.

The Word or LOGOS gives no one any ruling power than teaching that which has been delivered to the saints as the Regulative Principle. They get no authority but usurp authority because they are ANTI Logos and therefore ANTI Christ whose command was for evangelists to GO and ministers teach what He commanded to be taught and observed.


    
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 21 2017, 3:55 PM 


Sorry about that Ken, Russ changed the name. Did Russ live next door to you when he was in Hohenwald?

 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 21 2017, 4:11 PM 

Russ and family just about destroyed the local congregation. He-they moved their well-funded operation to a congregation in Columbia, tn and did what he-they denied that they wanted to do.

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Heritage Church of Christ is another one who promised until they got the new property. Brock Pauk is the voodoo master

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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 23 2017, 10:07 AM 



Maury Hills


"Our Core Values"


Non-denominational & non-judgmental

A "Church that belongs to Christ" rather than a "Church of Christ" denomination.


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YIKES!



 
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Ken Sublett
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 21 2017, 3:58 PM 

This page Sarge posts is by a man whose daughter is on the DOLE for which God gave no ROLE.

If you let the EPA rule your navigable waterways they will rule your ditches--and make you pay them, too.

 
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Re: How should the congregation be ruled?

January 23 2017, 1:40 PM 

These break off congregations need to make it on their own energy. Digs against coc get to be very boring. Digs also betray their own narrowness (ironically). If you want a loving congregation then quit the digs, you "progressives"!

 
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