Tony I can see your side of the arguement and a to a certain degree I agree with, but as in football why dont you protest before the games after the ganmes during the games as long as its not abusive andd rowdy inside the rink I cant see what the problem is. You can build a case for four years time to approach the council. You can fund raise to pay the players wages etc with a captive audience ( has anybody approached bc with this in mind). I will even support you. But to finish off hockey in Cardiff I reckon is detrimental to everyone involved whether fod fob or foh. At the end of the day there will only be losers. Nobody would think any different of you if you walked back in the rink in fact you would possibly gather more support. The only thing i can see happening is us going the same way as Billingham Bournemouth Durham Altringham etc with no hockey at senior level ever again or an even lower standard then what we got now. To be honest its just a stalemate and an agreement has got to be reached. I hope that both sides come to their senses and the people who have been banned will be allowed back into the rink and that you will be allowed to continue to raise funds for the ex-players and the juniors.