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OK, for the last time on the Swansea/Cardiff subject. The Swansea team wont be up and running until the 2003/4 season (thats if the building is done on time, and we all know how often the deadline is met). The Cardiff Ice Rink lease runs out in 2004/5 season and the rink demolished for retail purposes. As Swansea are having a new 50m swimming pool (you know the one were supposed to have to replace the empire pool), then our 'Sports Village' is not going to happen and it will go to Swansea. So unless somebody off their own back is going to build a rink for this Cardiff ISL team to play in, then i'm afraid that your all going to have to be Swansea fans. If that happens one might suggest you people never ever showing your face at Ninian Park of Cardiff Arms Park in the near future. If I was you i would come to watch the Devils play to show just how many fans they do have so that their is a point in building a new arena. Otherwise you will have killed ice hockey in Cardiff, not Bob Phillips. It would be you lot not supporting that will have cost Cardiff it's hockey team. Oh yeah and another thing how many class players do you expec this Swansea team to attract, it's not even close to being Cardiff is it.