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How do you Pull Your Revolver Trigger ?

April 24 2017 at 4:31 AM
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Andrew  (Login spEKTre)

 
We had this as a training topic on the weekend at my club, the method being taught by Dom ( our most experienced and decorated shooter ) is to just gently roll it back and don't stop/pause/hesitate and to commit to the shot in a direct manner. Now I know some of the good shooters over here in WA tend to pull it back onto a rubber trigger stop and hold until in the aim area and gently push it back until the shot breaks.

I've been trying a version of the first by pulling the trigger up until the pressure starts to ease off ( wolff springs seem to lighten off tension after half way ) holding there until I'm happy with the aim area then pulling firmly through util the shot breaks. Had medium success with it but always seem to throw an 8 in sitting position.

What techniques do you guys use to get the best results ?

 
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April 25 2017, 7:55 PM 

I teach Grip, Sight Alignment and Trigger Control as the most important of the Seven Elements of Marksmanship. When it's time to press the trigger, it's one smooth and continuous press straight to the rear, achieving a surprise break and remember, you're pressing the trigger, not shooting the gun. Good Luck.

 
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Tony Kent
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April 28 2017, 2:14 AM 

Good question Andrew, and not an easy one to answer. So without making too many enemies here I'll give it a go.

There is no one true method that will suit everyone and everyones shooting style, back in the 80's a fellow by the name of Rod Frisby went over to WA and spent some time with the up and coming SP shooters there, Dom, Max and Peter to name a couple. If you can go back over some old Nationals results you'll see who Rod is, and I am sure Dom and crowd will remember him, not long after they were winning Nationals. I shot with Rod for a number of years and finally took over his place in the SA team when he gave it all away. Rod was a champion of the keep squeezing method, and it has it's merits. It's easier to keep something moving smoothly if you don't stop and try to restart, one of the Newtons laws I believe, something about objects at rest. If you are looking at your sights and are squeezing that front sight through the rear notch smoothly then the appreciable amount of movement is negligible via the trigger, remember this is a slow smooth movement. This is how I was taught and used for 15+ years.

Then......

I had a gun built with, as you point out, a piece of neoprene at the rear of the trigger. I must point out that all of my guns still have the hammer spur firmly attached. So to lighten the trigger off it also interferes with the trigger weight, 1360gms for SP, to alleviate being disquailified I wound the set screw up in the trigger so it comes into contact with the stop thereby being able to adjust the single action trigger weight, even though I shoot the gun double action. If you set the trigger fine enough you can use the stop as a hold position thereby being able to pull the trigger back quite firmly, holding in position and letting it break when you want, aligning sights etc. Great for minimising the trigger overtravel. Yep, works fine, used this method for around 12-15yrs too.

I have Wolf springs, in a box in the cupboard, none of my guns have them in, all S&W original springs. The trigger doesn't have to be light to be good, it has to be smooth. I think John Pride won his first Bianchi with a stock Smith with a 16 pound trigger, BUT it was smooth. Glad to be shot down in flames here guys if I'm wrong wink.gif

I've now gone back to the original method of squeezing and not stopping, my scores haven't gone down but maybe I've lost the odd flyer at 50 due to unconscious snatching, making it go off when I am ready, not when the gun is due to break. None of this Andrew is achieved overnight, if you haven't tried either for at least 6-12 months then you haven't really given it a go, it takes time to rid a habit and get muscle memory to work.

I realise none of this is lightbulb moments, but it's about putting in the yards. What works for you, works for you, I tried both and went back to what I was taught.

Give my regards to the guys and gals

 
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April 28 2017, 7:00 AM 

Some awesome replies there, invaluable info thanks guys.

 
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Roly
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April 28 2017, 2:25 PM 

I too subscribe to the slow pull all the way through method. I've tried both ways with equal results on different stages. I've even went as far as installing a custom trigger stop with a built in spring loaded ball bearing so I could stage the trigger. Although this helped my 50 yard groups it destroyed my point shoulder groups as I found myself forcing the shot rather then letting it break. I've since replaced it with a standard set screw and slowed down my 50 yard trigger pull. Because this works for me makes it's right for me. Every shooter needs to find what works best for their style of shooting through trial and error.

 
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Tony Kent
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April 28 2017, 3:41 PM 

Interesting concept Roly, never thought about a ball indent. I can see how it would work and can also see the implications that you encountered. We had a gunsmith over here in Victoria that used to build a hesitation into the trigger pull, I had some shots out of one of his guns but doubt if I could get used to in the quick runs. The matches I did shoot with it I found myself shooting the target low. Damn fine gunsmith though, and good shot to boot.

On a totally different subject he also used to machine out the pivot point on the trigger and hammer and instal needle bearings, not sure it ever took off as I can't recall anyone else taking up the process, smooth trigger though.

But you are dead right, find out what works for you.

 
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Gary
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May 21 2017, 9:07 AM 

After 38 years of shooting PPC I concur with many others who advocate keeping the trigger in motion. Go to Youtube and watch some closeups of Philip Hemphill (10 time national champion) and watch his trigger finger. The late Willie Stout who shot with the US Secret Service team many years ago was one of the best match 4 shooters I ever saw. Back then I asked him why and he said the only thing he thinks about in keeping the trigger moving. I took me about 20 years to believe him, but now I use the same technique and preach it every time I get a chance.

 
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