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Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 22 2006 at 2:51 PM
Ted Zanidakis  (Login tedzan)

This is the "Rodney Dangerfield" set of vintage card collecting.....
that is, "it doesn't get much respect". On this current Forum54 page
two posters have initiated topics regarding this set and there has not
been much of a follow-up. This has also been true of past postings on
this set.
Well, I will tell you I have a lot of RESPECT for this set, as it took me
quite a few years to complete it. Fortunately, I did it when it was still
affordable. My 1st E90-1 card was the really tough Mike Mitchell, since
in an early '80s BB card Mag. it was listed as a "must buy" rare card.
So, being a set collector, once I acquired it, I thought the remaining
119 cards would be "easy". Boy, was I in for a rude awakening.

The backs of these Caramel cards advertised 100 Subjects and this was
likely the intended original design. But, the American Caramel Co. kept
adding cards of players due to trades during 1909 - 1911. In fact the
2nd Cy Young (pitching pose) card reflects his trade to Cleveland.
Two cards were issued of Fred Clarke....the 1st erroneously depicted
him with Philadelphia; then, they corrected this by issuing a 2nd card
of him with Pittsburg. And, the list of additional cards goes on and on.

Anyhow, I don't claim to be an expert on this set, but I would be curious
to see how many members on this Forum have completed this set ?

Come on let's talk it up...."this is the kind of stuff that (BB card) dreams
are made of"....Trivia....what movie is that quote from ?


    
This message has been edited by tedzan on Mar 27, 2006 5:37 AM


 
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Tom Boblitt
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I hit about 55% at my maxx on it...........

March 22 2006, 3:03 PM 

had about 65-70 of the set....the generally 'easy' ones with a couple toughies. They all have new homes now!

 
 
Judge Dred (Fred)
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Re: Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 22 2006, 3:04 PM 

Ted,

I used to collect this set a long time ago. It was really cheap in the 80's. For some reason or other people didn't like the caramel sets too much back then. That's one reason I started to pick them up because they could be had for a song. I got through about 40 - 50 different cards and then got interested in other things. I ended up trading most of them within the last 10 years or so. I only kept a few of the cards. They truly are a nice set to collect. The poses and colors make them attractive. The nice challenge about this set is that it has over 100 cards with a lot of great players. I guess the amount of players and distribution (relative to T206) makes this set kind of tough to finish but it is a goal that can be reached (unless you need Jackson and Mitchell, then it might be a little expensive and/or tough).

 
 
Peter Thomas
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Re: Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 22 2006, 3:39 PM 

Ted,

I had complete set minus Jackson, but with 2 Mitchells - one very nice(PSA 5). Many cards were trimmed. Now I just have the Boston cards all graded in the 3 to 5 range. Sometime will get the ones that are not in SGC holders crossed over. I am back from Honduras and will email you about 49 Leafs.

 
 
dd
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Re: Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 22 2006, 3:54 PM 

I own 30-40 cards from this set, mostly HOFERS. Not tempted to complete the set but do enjoy some of the individual cards.

 
 

jay behrens
(Login sabrjay)

Re: Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 22 2006, 3:57 PM 

Looking back at what I collected in the 80s, probably my only regret was not paying more attention to caramel cards, this set in particular. I was always on the lookout for a Jax, but could never find one at a price I liked.

Jay

WOW upsidedown is MOM. Mom upsidedown is what dad wants to see.

 
 

Bob Pomilla
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Movie Trivia

March 22 2006, 5:38 PM 

"this is the kind of stuff that (BB card) dreams
are made of"....Trivia....what movie is that quote from ?

 The Maltese Falcon

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 22 2006, 6:11 PM 

Bob

You got it right....you are the Trivia King for the day.

Now, do you recall who, of the 3 main actors in that particular
scene in the Maltese Falcon, said this quote ?


    
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barrysloate
(Login barrysloate)

just a guess

March 22 2006, 6:30 PM 

But I'll go with Sidney Greenstreet.

 
 

Bob Pomilla
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Elisha Cook

March 22 2006, 6:40 PM 

????

 
 
Steve Dawson
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Re: Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 22 2006, 7:41 PM 

Bogey


Steve

 
 
RayB
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Falcon & the Caramel

March 22 2006, 8:47 PM 

Peter Lorre?

I currently have around 15 of these E90-1's and as Ringo says they "Don't Come Easy". Even the low graders that I dabble in get a lot of play.

I like a challenge, but ultimately this might end up being more than I can handle...what a glorious set though. We'll see.
RayB

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

E90-1 Mike Mitchell (Cinc)

March 22 2006, 9:03 PM 

PETER

Two Mike Mitchell cards, now that is really amazing. Besides the
one in my set, I have only seen one more in the past 24 years.

This card, with its bright Yellow background, sparks a certain
"mystique" in my imagination very similar to when I see a real
T206 Wagner or Plank or Magie....or a 1934 LaJoie....or even
a 1952 Topps Mantle or 1954 Bowman Ted Williams.


 
 

Bob
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Re: Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 22 2006, 11:18 PM 

It was Bogey.
The E90-1 set is not as hot as the other caramel card sets right now with the exception of the very scarce cards in the set and the horizontals. There are actually cards like David Shean which are almost impossible to find and yet no one ever acknowledges it in a publication or post. I put the set together (minus Joe Jax) card by card so I know how tough Upp, Shean, Walsh, etc really are. One of these days the set will come back in to fashion, it is always a matter of time. Look how long it took the T207 and M116 sets to start taking off...

 
 
Anonymous
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e107?

March 22 2006, 11:24 PM 

is the e107 breisch williams set tougher than the e90-1 by far?

 
 
Brett
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Re: Let's Talk E90-1....toughest Candy card set ?

March 23 2006, 1:08 AM 

i wish i could buy a e107 for under $200 !

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

E90-1 set

March 23 2006, 9:04 AM 

And, the Winners are Steve D. and Bob M.

In the last scene in the Maltese Falcon are Bogart, Mary Astor, Barton
McLane, and Ward Bond (the two Detectives). Ward Bond asks Bogey about
the statue and Bogey tells him....."it is the stuff that dreams are made of".

Barry....did you know that this is Sidney Greenstreet's "rookie" movie ?

OK, down to business.....I will not argue with those that argue that the
Breisch-Williams set is tougher than the E90-1. However, since the E107
cards were produced before such greats as Cobb, Jackson, and Johnson, it
doesn't get much respect as it probably deserves. There is no doubt, and a
proven fact, that certain stars (and the more of them) make for a given BB
card set's popularity. Nevertheless, with 158 cards in it (including Matty and
Wagner), the E107 set is certainly a challenging set to complete.

I chose to collect the E90-1 cards because they were colorful, they included
all the major stars of that era, and I had a headstart with the rare cards in
this set.

 
 

leon
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Forum Owner

btw

March 23 2006, 11:51 AM 

When talking about e90-1 vs E107 I guess it should be pointed out that no one (that I am aware of) has ever completed an E107 set. regards

 
 
Andy Baran
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E90-1 vs. E107

March 23 2006, 12:01 PM 

There is no comparison when it comes to scarcity between the 2 sets. I am confident that each individual player in the E107 set is more rare than the E90-1 Mitchel. I personally don't believe that the Mitchel is that rare. It is certainly more rare than the other cards in the set, but it is not impossible to find. The internet has changed my opinion of the scarcity of that card. If you were traveling to card shows in the 80's looking to find one, odds are you would probably come up short. But in today's market, there is a Mitchel available in almost every major auction.

The fact that the E107 set is less collected has nothing to do with lack of respect for the issue. To the contrary, I would guess that most collectors have a tremendous amount of respect for this set. It is not as popular among collectors because the cards are so scarce, and the prices have climbed to levels beyond the budgets of many collectors. Putting together a set of E107's would be an astonishing accomplishment, and one that has never been done to the best of my knowledge.

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

E90-1 set....can we stay on topic?

March 23 2006, 12:54 PM 

Hey guys....I started this out as an "upbeat" Thread on what in my
opinion is an "unheralded" set....E90-1. And, was hoping to generate
some interesting experiences by Forum members' in collecting these
cards. After all, it is a major BB card set.

Instead, we are starting to de-generate into a "this vs that" conver-
sation. Hey, we all fully appreciate the difficulty in acquiring a near set,
or perhaps even all 158 cards to complete the E107 set. And, that would
certainly make for a extremely interesting Thread on its own.

But, where did I, initially, try to compare these two sets ? NO WHERE !

Continuing, so far Peter Thomas, Bob Marquette, and I have put to-
gether the E90-1 set (119 or 120 cards). And, several guys have col-
lected approx. 1/2 the set. That's fine, and it would be interesting to
get more inputs on these cards.

 
 
 
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