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T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 8 2006 at 11:49 PM
TheCard  (Login TheCard)

Thanks Mr. Spell Checker for pointing out misspell words instead of answering the questions. You are a expert in human error. Now for the T206 expert in the house. Stop ego tripping. You are not an expert, just because you have 50, 100, 500, etc... You are just a big collector of T206's. Can you till me when, were, and how the card was printed (factory, city, print plates, etc..) And yes this is very important info., in solving the puzzle behind the T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont.

Some of you guys say that I am pulling the race card. I don't need to pull the race card to sell my card. The facts speak for them self. I wish that wasn't a issue, but there are sick people out in the world, that may use race, etc.. to work there evil. I didn't make it up, its been there since time started and it be here when my time is up. Back on point. No one on this board has attack the science behind this card. And remember that science is the glue to the Universe, with out it you and I wouldn't exist. Also why haven't know one attack the back of the card. Oh isn't it because there no reprint printed on the back that would say it a reprint. Stop running around and, stay on point. What company reprinted the card. Not that it's a early 80's, 70's reprint. What company put the card out. If you don't know then stop ego tripping and find out. I have ask this question for over 4 years and no one know the answer. So I did the resarch for you. There isn't a company out there that put this card out as a reprint. The science say that its pre-1921. Facts or Facts.

For the T206 expert on the board, stop ego tripping. Just because you own 10,50,100,500,etc.. T206's doesn't make you an expert on the Honus Wagner T206-Piedmont card. If you were an expert then why are there so many stories on the Honus Wagner T206-Piedmont card. You are a big collector, but you don't know when, how and were the T206 card were printed. Dont't talk about it, be about it. That is why there are error cards, ghost (which is a error in print), misspell words and the list goes on, about the T206's poping up everyday. If you are a expert like you say then solve the puzzle. Like Nike say "Just Do It". You so call experts didn't come up with the ideal to have your T206 card tested with science to see if its authentic. And make note that this the first T206 and baseball in history to be tested with science to prove it authenticity. Well that makes me a big expert on vintage card pre-1921 would you say. Sometimes you need science to take the problem to the next level to be solve.

I wonder if the PSA-8 Honus Wagner card has any scientific test behind it. I would stay NO. So stop hating on this card. It has more proof that it's real then the PSA-8 Honus Wagner T206. Oh the PSA-8 HW, been slab, reprints been slab to. You guys only know the surface of this story. If the grading compnaies were expert in authenticating T206 cards, then why didn't they come up with the concept of test the fiber of the card first. I did. So instead of hating, you need to be asking me to authenticate you card. Don't you think. The T206 cards are a mystery and like every mystery you will have controversy.

For the ones who would stay why am I defending my card. I don't need to defend my card the science behind the card defend the card.


Hey it being fun chatting. There are three sides to every story; our side, your side and the truth.

Peace and good night.


P.S.- Spell Checker you still got my back

 
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William
(Login hoytdunk)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 8 2006, 11:59 PM 

<<If the grading compnaies were expert in authenticating T206 cards, then why didn't they come up with the concept of test the fiber of the card first. I did.>>


Wow.....you are the cutting edge of card authentication.

I am truly embarrassed for you.

 
 

Brian Weisner
(Login BRIANKW)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:00 AM 


Quit wasting your time and ours trying to sell a bogus card to the most experienced collectors in the hobby. More members of this board have handled REAL un slabbed Wagners in the last few years, than you will ever see pictures of in your lifetime.
In fact I can think of 3-4 members that own a Real one right now.

Quit making a fool of yourself here and go to a yahoo board, where some idiot might actually beleive you.

Brian

 
 
ramram
(Login ramramram)

Ah Oh!

August 9 2006, 12:01 AM 

Here we go..............

 
 

Jim F
(Login hockey_jim)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:04 AM 

I can till you that the glue of THIS universe is going to block your ass any minute cause he be trippin by now. But seriously dude, get a life. You think someone with $300k to throw around on a piece of cardboard or anything else is stupid? Seriously? T206 cards are not a mystery, the only mystery around here is what you've been smoking. As much as you wish this card to be real with phoney baloney paper testers and Mr. Magoo the famous memorabilia dealer on the 37th floor, it ain't gonna happen!! We ain't buyin what ya sellin!! Never will!! I just want to know how you conned this auctioneer into trying to sell it? Are all those Psa 1-2 T206's yours too? Is that your angle? If all the $20 ones are real, the $300k one must be real too right? Go away.

 
 

leon
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Forum Owner

guys and girls..........take my wife.....please

August 9 2006, 12:12 AM 

I have read it all but in the name of a good SNL skit (pick an old one with Belushi....maybe the blues bros. one(s))...and I say let 'er rip. This guy does need to go to the YAAhoo board but why not let him express himself? I really almost thought the first post in this thread was an attempt at comedy, it's so funny.....Tell me how many folks didn't laugh, just a little, when they read it?..breast regards

 
 
DJ
(Login OJ-Collector)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:15 AM 

Dude, you are trippin! First off, race doesn't exist. Why you ask? WE CAN'T SEE YOU!!!!!!!! If you don't mention it, HOW WOULD WE KNOW?

I don't know half the people on this board and don't know their races but you know what, we are all equal in my eyes. I consider them all "Collectors". Wise collectors.

As far as T206 being a mystery. HOW THE HELL IS IT A MYSTERY? The idea that the Chupcabra existing...now that's a mystery. The death of John F. Kennedy...still remains a mystery. Atlantis, a mystery. The fact that you think you can pull the wool over the eyes of this Forum and why you would return...a mystery. We're talking cardboard from one hundred years ago. It's not exactly Stonehenge.

Obviously you know nothing about cardboard. Stick with horny goat weed and alaskan bear spray, things you know.

DJ

 
 

jay behrens
(Login sabrjay)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:18 AM 

You never told us why we can't get ahold of your expect, Mr Swedy? I would think that it would be very important for him to be able to answer questions about how he went about his tests. You can't sit there and trumpet scientific tsting when the person taht did it has a disconnected phone and can't be found.

You wonder why no one else ever thought of testing fibers from a card to authenticate it? It's because a true expert on t206s does not need to do this and most importantly, and should be relate to to this, by removing fibers from a million dollar card, you are causing hundreds of thousands of dollars in damge.

I'd love to use a favorite saying of one of Black friends, but it would most likely get the post deleted and me sent to corner for using a bad word.

Jay

A good friend will come bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun."

 
 

John
(Login wonkaticket)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:19 AM 

I hate when people play the “Race Card” but these guys might be onto something!

After a little digging it seems Joe Orlando has a shady past in the Black Exploitation film business…shame on you Joe!




As for this Wagner…IMO, Shownuf it be a fake!

 
 

Ray Piskadlo
(Login RayPiskadlo)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:19 AM 

Congratulations! You probably do own a real T206 BACK!!! Too bad it was skinned off a common and attached to a horrible looking Honus Wagner scan that was artificially aged. It doesn't take a company to do that... just a single person with a computer, scanner, and printer.

Wonka, we missed you!


    
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Dave Simon
(Login goodyauctions)

Another way of looking at things

August 9 2006, 12:21 AM 

You know, a better analysis would have been to have the 'experts' compare the reprint to an actual Wagner or any other T206 Piedmont. Saying that the paper is consistent with paper from an era is different than comparing the paper of your reprint to the paper of a known original.

It's a reprint -- maybe an early reprint, but the specular highlights in his hair are different in yours than in the Gretsky/McNall.

 
 

peter ullman
(Login ullmandds)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:24 AM 

a better analysis would have been to test mr. the card's dna to confirm that he is a con artist and a moron.


pete in mn

 
 

jay behrens
(Login sabrjay)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:24 AM 

If I remember the story of the card right, they got it in the early 90s for $1500. They realized after spending this money that they got conned and are trying pull the con themselves. Basically, they are suckers looking for a bigger sucker. Sadly, I don't think there are two bigger suckers in this world then these two guys. I got a bridge in Brooklyn I'm looking to sell if you are interested.

Jay

A good friend will come bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun."

 
 
davidcycleback
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Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:25 AM 

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Jim F
(Login hockey_jim)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:32 AM 

How much does fiber analysis cost these days?

 
 

Dan Kravitz
(Login chiprop)

Wagner

August 9 2006, 12:35 AM 

Isn’t nice that we can bond together sometimes? It's more fun when the board plays nice. Back to business... Wagner is a bad fake. Please take your nonsense elsewhere. We have meaningful discussions to conduct.

 
 
Dave Simon
(Login goodyauctions)

Extra Stains

August 9 2006, 12:35 AM 

Extra faux tobacco stains thrown in at no charge. What Piedmont pack did this card come from, the special Drum edition?

 
 

Lee Behrens
(Login bowlingshoeguy)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:36 AM 

I just love people who try to defend themselves on vintages carsd on this board when they have no idea who they are dealing with.

Iam curious as to how he found us and the fact we were laughing at this case of fraud. How long are these jokers going to try to keep this up?

Leon, why are we wasting are time with this joker. Just leave a thread with a link to the auction that it is a fake, lock the thread, and bump it to the top of the page when it hits the bottom until the auction is done.

Lee

 
 

jay behrens
(Login sabrjay)

Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:46 AM 

Lee, these are big time playas (like the hood language?) in the vintage card arena. Didn't you read that he came up with the idea of fiber testing a card for autenticity? Come on, that's about as big a playa as you are gonna find in this ignorant nexk of the woods.

To the card owner, might I suggest carbon-14 dating just to lay to rest an question about how old the card really is. The science doesn't get any better than that

Jay

A good friend will come bail you out of jail. A true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun."


    
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davidcycleback
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Re: T206 Honus Wagner-Piedmont

August 9 2006, 12:59 AM 

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