I see SGC has put a "provenance" label on it, just like Lionel Carter! This must be a great collection. I feel kind of privileged to have witnessed the development of the Skydash saga from his first post asking for the name of a good appraiser to this post. I can't wait to see what other cards will be coming next.
Maybe the reason for using "Skydash Collection" as the designation, has to do with him wanting to keep his name anonymous. I know I would want the same thing in this case, instead of using my real name in the collection.
is all I can say...........this card will sell for a small to medium midwest house type price I'd say........just a beautiful piece. Was great seeing everything unfold for 'SKYDASH'. I talked with him on the phone for about 45 minutes one day and would say he's a genuinely great guy. Hope this all works out for him and his family.
Eric, I agree with your theory concerning anonymity but I think it is kind of odd to have "Skydash Collection" instead of "Barney Thomas Collection" since only 54ers know him as skydash. It would be different if he were known around the hobby as skydash but the guy is pretty anonymous, don't you think?
I appreciate all the responses. Barry,I agree with your observation.The naming of the collection was done with mixed feelings.The reason behind it has to due with a desire to remain totally anonymous. I would have much rather named it after the individual I got them from,but that wasn't my call. So....."Skydash" it is. I hope more pictures are posted as well.
I think we all agree, family included, that it would be nice to have had the original collectors name on the cards, but it simply wasn't practical. Everyone recognizes the collection as being "Skydash's", and I think that is probably how the original collector would have wanted it. I think he was probably a lot like Carter, Barker, and Bray, in that he collected for the joy of it, not for the value. Be well Brian
PS The collection is incredible..... I can't wait for you guys to see it..
"Skydash" has a nice screenplay ring to it. It could start with the Thorpe sitting on a pile of trash (if I remember the story correctly - at a dump site?). Sunrise barely on the horizon. Cue music (Neil Young would be cool). Close up Thorpe. Twinkle Thorpe's eye with computer animation. Roll opening credits.... How much for the rights sky?
Does anyone know why this card is so incredibly rare? I know the overall set is very tough, but this card in particular is impossible. Even if there were only 10 each of the "common" cards in this set, how do you explain the existence of only 2 or 3 Thorpes (and 2 or 3 Jacksons)? Could there really be 8 Thorpes and Jacksons squirrelled away secretly in some of the finest collections?
How absurd to put a fictitious name on the label. This ranks right up there with PSA's "Mr. X Collection" fiasco. Since when does SGC play a role in protecting someone's identity. I thought they were there to grade/authenticate cards. Would have been much better to leave the name off if it was not possible to put the original collector's name on the label IMHO.
I can appreciate your position.Every auction house I talked with encouraged me to name this collection due to the large,varied,and remarkable condition of the set.Please don't hold it against me.I was following the advice of people who have been in the hobby most of their lives.
I agree, the 'skydash' name ruined it. If I were the original collector, I would be outraged to think all my hard work over the years putting this collection together was forgotten. And to top it off, the credit is given under a fake name in reference to someone who didn't put the collection together in the first place. It was only 'passed' down through the family to someone who is only related by marriage. Just my two cents.... A sad ending to a wonderful story.
Would anyone like to venture a guess what percentage of board members, if they were to win $10,000 in the lottery, would only complain about the denominations of the bills that were used to pay them off?
I personally don't mind the Skydash reference. Obviously, anyone who followed the story on Net54 understands the connection. The hope for anonymity is understandable as well, how many of us would want everyone to know that your family just had a huge windfall?
As far as the hard work of the original collector being forgotten, I would think that they would be thrilled to know that the collection was saved from the trash, if not for that fact we wouldn't even be having this conversation and a tremendous collection would have been lost forever.
Skydash - You don't have to apologize for anything, you saved a lot of "old cardboard" from being destroyed and we as collectors will have the opportunity to view and perhaps purchase a portion of that collection.
I will take mine in JACKSONS!! FRANKLIN wasnt a president!!!
Skydash the best of luck with the collection!I think the only luck you will need is not getting hurt pushing the wheelbarrow to the bank when its finished!!!
Hi Paul and Marc,
Are you really concerned about the name on the top of the holder? Give me a break. I consider the owners of this collection to be friends of mine, and there character is beyond reproach. They are not collectors, and they wish to remain anonymous, so I would appreciate it, if you focused your attention to the cards versus the holders. Be well Brian
PS Tin Tops in SGC Holders are Real and spectacular.....
This message has been edited by BRIANKW on Oct 26, 2007 9:13 PM
I'm certainly not implying that the Thorpe chip is a fake, by why does it have a pencil drawing look to it? It seems that every other Colgan has an old photograph look to it.???????????? Is it because it is a Tin Top? Just Curious
Smart move to remain in the backround. You would have "cousins" you didn't know coming out of the woodwork.
<<If I were the original collector, I would be outraged >>
Marc, if you were the original collector, you would be DEAD! Sorry to be morbid, but the original collector no longer has any thoughts or feelings on this subject. Putting his real name on the shell would only lead to publicity the family doesn't want.
The reason the card looks different is due to the lack of a usable picture at the time.The picture was airbrushed using a larger picture as a model.There are actually 4 cards in this collection that look like this one!
after the IRS mailed a tax bill to the guy who caught the Bonds ball the very next day, who would want to give their name upon declaring a find? It's a different matter after a sale, but even then government tax collecting is a lot like stormtrooping and thuggery. Illegals don't mind sneaking in because they know they won't have to pay any taxes. If you venture into immigration forums though, you'll find a lot of legal immigrants not even considering living in the USA and even leaving here to live in countries free of tax, such as UAE, Virgin Islands, Bermuda, Bahamas, Caymans, etc.
John: I would love to see some more of the pictures myself. Hopefully they'll post some soon.
Tim: I'm glad you're not "another" cousin,because I've got a certain"Uncle Sam" who is always taking money out of my back pocket!