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"I think what makes this country great is freedom of speech and a little kidding around with a few good laughs is good for the soul."
Well wouldn't it be nice if it were that easy? Your behavior in the other thread went way, way beyond a few laughs and good for the soul.
"Once again doll smart remark about being introduced throwing up at a party. When was the last time you were spanked? Perhaps a few taps will change your perspective and you may lighten up a little on your obvious frustrations."
First, you don't get to hide behind saying that it was all in response to attacks on you. Almost all of what you took was in response to your BEHAVIOR in the thread. Someone saying you are obnoxious is based on the fact that your posting was obnoxious. Someone saying you are stupid is based on the facts that many posts were inane.
Coming back with comments about listening to the BeeGees and having a comb in the pocket has nothing to do with someone's posts. Certainly the comment about me, based solely on the fact that I am female, has absolutely zero to do with my behavior. It's a good thing you can't tell by someones name who among us is old or handicapped or Jewish or Asian, because all of those would be fair game too.
Second, I have participated on these boards off and on since it was the Fullcount board and probably have about 5 or more total years of consistent participation. And no one, ever, never, not one person has ever crossed the line you crossed. Your comment was sexually overt and had strong tones of intimidation and was way, way out of line.
No one - of all of the thousands of guys that have come and gone or been regular participants - no one has ever ever done that in all these years. Not once. I've argued with people and clashed with people and not one has gone there. Even Bruce, who probably doesn't like me and for good reason, has never ever done that - and he has taken a whole, whole lot more from me than you did.
I think all the decent guys on this board should be pissed. 5+ years active without anyone ever playing the sexual slam card. And now this board can never say that again. You took that from this board and these people - the ability to say that with however many hundreds of thousands of posts each and every single individual refrained from that - even joking. And you, a nobody, come out of nowhere, contribute nothing, act like an ass and break that incredibly decent run that these guys collectively had.
And to the rest of the guys, thank you very much for that and for jumping Marshall when he posted that yesterday. To be honest, I sometimes feel like I am interfering in what might otherwise be a very different atmosphere - like I am crashing the locker room or hunting camp or something - and really appreciate that I've never heard even the faintest hint of derision or resentment over that.
There is an extent to which I'm not even mad though. Why? Because what he did was too easy. It's so obvious, so intellectually destitute. Of course he would do it. He doesn't fit, not here or anywhere. In the picture with Trump that he is so proud of, he is so incredibly out of place and inappropriate that he almost looks like he was Photoshopped into it.
If I'm in that room and a guy comes in looking like that and acting like a jerk and breaks out some stupid sexual comment about me, am I going to really stay deeply mad and offended for long? No. He's an obvious outcast and misfit, tolerated only because there is a veneer of civility in most social settings, including that room and including this board. That picture is the perfect parallel to him on this board, and the reason I won't stay mad or offended.
And Marsh, as to people hating your slogan and yet using it and you finding that odd? They're mocking you. Individually, collectively and appropriately. The only person not in on the joke is you. Pard.
BRING THE NOISE.
Joann
Leon, I disagree that he was justified in this comment and in some others because of what he was taking. This was way over the line and a first for this decent and wonderful board. Damn. You can't get that back. I didn't want it buried in some other thread, and the one in which the comment originally appeared has been locked, so I started a new one. Feel free to lock or delete. I don't want to make this drag on forever, but I was not just going to let it go either.
Edited to add my name to the top so it was not Anonymous. Oops
Edited again because somehow punctuation like apostophes and dashes got dropped and it was driving me nuts.
This message has been edited by jmk59 on Jan 8, 2009 8:32 PM This message has been edited by jmk59 on Jan 8, 2009 8:30 PM This message has been edited by jmk59 on Jan 8, 2009 8:30 PM This message has been edited by jmk59 on Jan 8, 2009 8:06 PM
I wanted to sneak this in quickly in case it gets locked up.
ABSOLUTELY agreed, one thousand percent, Marshall owes a massive apology not only to Joann but to the entire board. But he won't give one because he's an ass.
Edited to add: and good for you, Joann, for starting this thread. I understand why Leon locked the other one, and I felt bad that my post was the last one in it, because you really deserved the parting shot.
-Al
This message has been edited by Novocent on Jan 8, 2009 8:12 PM
Great response Joanne. You have every right to be extremely offended. Frankly, I am disappointed more members of this board did not immediately speak up Its one of the worst things I have ever seen on this board--even worse to me than the wacky prof expressing his glee that I had lost several million dollars on my stock.
Jim
This message has been edited by Davalillo on Jan 8, 2009 8:15 PM This message has been edited by Davalillo on Jan 8, 2009 8:13 PM
I guess I am used to places like usenet where the way Marshall talks (writes) is par for the course. The one thing we don't want is that kind of trash in this forum though and I agree with Joann that it went way over the line. Not sure what you can do though...I don't think it was necessarily a bannable (not a word) offense. Heck, if wishing someone dead and sending obscene emails to forum members doesn't get you banned then Marshall probably shouldn't be banned. I think the best you can do is ignore him. He's craving attention...and if you believe his story he's been craving it his whole life. Also like most of the unbearable posters on this forum he has yet to learn how to use a scanner...until that time I will take anything he writes with a grain of salt.
Disagree Dan. You should not be able to come on this board and ask a woman when the last time she was spanked or for that matter make any kind of overt sexual comment.
You also should not be able to wish someone dead.
This message has been edited by Davalillo on Jan 8, 2009 8:19 PM
Jim, I do not have control over who can and can not be banned here and for what reasons. I agree with Leon's rules and his wisdom. He runs a loose ship compared to most boards, but I think that kind of moderating can lead to many great discussions which I suppose is why the fella that wished me dead is still here because he (they?) does start some good discussions. No doubt Marshall's comments to Joann went WAY over the line...they do not belong here.
Joann is a friend of mine and I greatly admire her
This message has been edited by slidekellyslide on Jan 8, 2009 8:25 PM
I am sorry you were so offended. This thread won't be locked because of you voicing your opinion. I think you took the guy too seriously and I stand behind everything I said...take care now.
Who has wished someone dead on this board in public???
This is a chat board, who cares.
Joann was insulted and rightfully so. Joann has insulted me privately and I was ok.
Remember, this is a chat board, Lyman once said I shouldn't have posted an email Pete Calderon and I had if we were friends. Well Pete and I are probably as good of friends as ever now.
remember, this is only a c hat board.
Is an apology in order? sure, I think Joann should be apologized to.
Is the world going to stop over this? no, Barry seems more upset than Joann.
Barry, you are not married to Joann, get over it.
I respect both Barry and Joann and feel her post hit the nail on the head.
But let it go there
dan
This message has been edited by danmckee on Jan 8, 2009 8:31 PM
But humbling and shaming as I realize I didn't stand-up and put-up on your behalf.
You're a super decent human being, very bloody obviously so, and should never face that kind of sexually aggresive slam by anyone. The way men have pushed and silenced women for so very very long, stuff my mum fought against in the 70's.
Good men know better.
Barry knew better.
Leon's completely wrong on this joker, his ass should be history.
Leon- I don't think Joann took Marshall too seriously. I think she pinned him dead on.
Dan- I'm not married to Joann, that comment makes no sense, and I guess my fault is I have respect for intelligent, hard working people like Joann, and no tolerance for miscreants who insult women. Thank you.
This message has been edited by barrysloate on Jan 8, 2009 8:42 PM This message has been edited by barrysloate on Jan 8, 2009 8:41 PM
I love how the board comes together whenever someone like this comes along...he obviously just going to be trouble until he is gone. I went back and read everything hes said I think,and he obviously needs to go,he's never going to add anything to the board with so many people against him already. That's no way to start off. I'll be happy when he's gone,his threads just become clutter and push better topics down the board.
no real fault Barry, just thought you were over the barrel. I guess it is all in what you are used to. 20+ years of service in a co-ed environment and I probably have whitnessed a bit more than you. You are still my hero in cards. Dan.
edited to add - Please Barry, no personal emails, post all comments here on the board.
This message has been edited by danmckee on Jan 8, 2009 8:52 PM This message has been edited by danmckee on Jan 8, 2009 8:45 PM
Good for you Barry, Daniel, John and others. Those who think Joann is overreacting and hey this is just a chatboard are way off the mark here. If anything I think Joanne should be more angry.
Not overreacting Jim, I stated she hit the nail on the head. She held her own, I just mentioned we should move on from here. And a very Happy New Year to you Jim. Dan.
Hi Joann,
I agree 100% with you . I miss our talks and will have to catch up one of these days! Marshall you did cross the line and Im glad you picked Joann! To put it in terms you can understand from the way you have with words ,quit while your ahead because when she finishes with you there wont be a scrap of meat left on that bone!!
He adds nothing but stress to this Forum. He is only here to bash. He's the guy at the party who THINKS he's witty, smart and funny. This isn't a golf club house where this kind of behavior is tolerated. I think it's time to "Morraine" him.
"Leon- I don't think Joann took Marshall too seriously. I think she pinned him dead on.
Dan- I'm not married to Joann, that comment makes no sense, and I guess my fault is I have respect for intelligent, hard working people like Joann, and no tolerance for miscreants who insult women. Thank you."
I completely agree.
Joann, you are a good egg. You always add value and bring a balanced perspective to threads. I look forward to reading your posts.
What was said to you is inexcusable. Your response is pure class and consistent with your many years of posting.
I am a lazy reader, maybe I missed something. Was the bad comment to Joann stating when was the last time she was slapped? Or was there something way worse? Maybe I have made light of a serious situation and need to apologize. I love everyone here. Dan.
You are right Al, I did read that and yes, that is a huge difference. Very rude indeed, he owes her a public apology. As all of you stated here, she has handled it professionally and is a strong asset to this board. Good prevailed once again.
Joann, It's unfortunate that this Stain happened along this great board. But, there were other narcisists barging in before him and sadly, there will be others that follow in their world of make-believe they call The Internet.
Fortunately, for us, the socially undeveloped tend to lose attention easily. So, like any other child crying out for it, he should be ignored. It shouldn't be too long for this adolescent xenophobe. (He made disparaging remarks about Gays as well.)
I just wish the others on this board would discontinue their civil dialogues with this punk, MB deserves only to be shunned. BTW, your post is sensible and highly accurate.
I believe it's about time for Leon and the other mods to shut him down. Steve
Joann,
I am sorry that this happened to you and wish you all the best (as usual).
The picture is not photo shopped but it is probably not what Marshall claims it to be. I really doubt Donald and he have a personal relationship. Mr. Trump poses for thousands of pictures. I am fairly sure that these pictures were not at a black tie event or anything like that. It was one of Mr. Trump's many many seminars on business that happened to be held in the Cayman islands (more likely St. Vincent where Trump owns property and this is backed by Marshall standing next to the Prime Minister of St. Vincent).
Joann, Marshall just proves the Mark Twain adage... "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
BTW, still have seen no proof of any sales by Marshall or that he even owns any cards. I wish to see some of Marshall's high end cards. Any cards actually...I would love Marshall to add something to this board as well. Joann, Barry, Dan, even Bruce (who I refuse to talk to or deal with) adds information, scans, knowledge, and class to the board without having it be a wager.
Also, Leon, in the thread where you tell us to cut him a break he goes on to say that all the card people are either drinkers, gamblers, or strip club goers...I am no saint but I would never imply that an entire class of people are those things.
If Marshall would just add something of value I would be happy.
Also, Marshall (and Frank would back me up on this), the first amendment does not guarantee free speech. It makes sure Congress will not pass a law infringing on free speech. There are many many examples of people getting in trouble for "speaking their minds."
One last friendly post to my friends here, there is no E on Joann in this case. Unless she spelled it wrong above and I followed her misspelling. Good Night all and a very Happy 2009!
I know what all of you are expecting. I'm sure most of you boring stiffs are waiting for my response. Ok here we go because i am going to bring some major MF'ing NOOISE.
In order for a person to BRING THE NOISE they have to understand NOISE and i certainly do. I have never in my life been a part of anything fraudulant. I spoke to Leon in a private conversation and told him the truth about who i am and that i do not lie. At this point though i am gonna bend just a wee but please Joann come down off the cross because you are not Jesus.
FIGHT THE POWER & BRING THE NOISE with facts kid and i mean now?
Fact 1. The T-206 PSA 6 Harry Bay sold for 1700 at Milehigh auction and it was my card.
If anyone would have taken the bet for 1000 they would have lost. Book it.
Fact 2. The picture you bums chose to show is a picture of me talking to Donald because there were several cameras around and both us were just trying to figure it out. Post the other picture of donald and i you Barbera Walters holier than though troublemaker .
Fact 3. If it were not for my agent there would have never even been a Donald Trump golf tournament because he was trying to throw a event where each golfer put up 25,000 of their own money and a winner would take all 1,000,0000 first place and no other money for the other spots.
Donald also had guidelines as to who could play and one of them was that a person had to be talented in another field. There was only 12 players that fit that bill including yours truly who comitted to his tournament and he needed 125 so my agent contacted Donald's golf tournament director and saved the day. The tour i was on was the US Pro Golf Tour so they combined our tour with Donald and made it the US Pro Golf Tour 1,000,000 Donald Trump shootout.
Fact 4. All you evangelicals whined and spouted that i had no cards, please produce them Marshall come on lad show us. come on you fraud let us see about 9 months ago. So i posted 9 months ago that i was sending 250 of T-206's that had the finest Southern Leaguers so get ready. The cards blew out for 38,000 at Milehigh and Brian Drent BROUGHT MAJOR NOISE and set a single auction record because he has the "1 auction house in the game.
Fact 5. For every finger you point there is two pointing back and Joann you started with a insult and jab so i fired back,like i am doing now and there is no type of grading when it comes to a insult. Words like Troll,fraudulant,wannabe,fake,liar and so on are all insults and i know a few of my friends that if someone would call me a liar and they would be present would just smash their F'ing teeth down their throat which is what happens when you are in the middle of a mosh pit and they love it. I come from a very hardcore and extreme background and my friends play harder than myself.
Fact 6. My original post had to do with the hobby and also the grading standards that are suspect. In my original post i had nothing to say about anybody on this board. I only started fighting back and defending myself after people started saying things like "sour grapes", "whiner", and other remarks that made it personal.
Fact 7. I am going back to the game and i will guarantee you another thing you Jim Baker PTL CLUB wannabe Salem burn the witch at the stake MF'ers that FLORIDA IS GOING TO BRING THE NOISE BABY!
p.s. I need more cowbell baby, i love the cowbell (-:
Just wanted to chime in with my support for Joann and her comments.
As Wilde said, "The only thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about!" and all the chastisements and expressions of distaste directed at this guy, will only have the effect of spurring him on to more obnoxious and oh so immature, behavior. He craves the attention, no matter how negative and the only thing to do is stay our fingers from responding and let him "talk" to himself. No attention = his disappearance.
Leon - Is referring to the members of this board as "MF'ers" acceptable, also?
"you Jim Baker PTL CLUB wannabe Salem burn the witch at the stake MF'ers"
This message has been edited by BrickyardKennedy on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM
Interesting people find their way to Leon's little corner. After awhile they wander off to another place that suits them better. Adam M, Peter C. and soon Marshall will find a place on this WWW that they call home. For a few brief moments we listen and shake our heads and then head back to our boring little hobby that we so enjoy.
I am sad that Joann had to be in the middle of this episode and I'm sure she knows that the majority of gentlemen (and I stress the word gentlemen) respect her and her knowledge.
Shortly we will be a peaceful place again. Just wish a few more would join Marshall on his journey out of here. But alas I can only dream.
In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982. Dad, thanks for everything you did for me.
Leon,
Im a pretty good judge of A--Holes but this clown takes the cake! Peter C at least had some class but this boy is out there! His kinda NOISE I dont think we really need . I think its almost time to pull the plug. Did I say almost.Well you get the point.
Thank you Joann for what you have said here and your participation on this board. I did not follow the other threads by this guy because I could tell they would be a waist of time. However, just reading the few snippets you pasted here is incredibly offensive. I fully support banning this guy. What does he contribute?
JimB
Wow.....Marshall finally drops some actual information....if he was indeed the consignor on the T206 Bay in Mile High, then congrats Marshall...it only took you 400 posts for one simple piece of info.
To your point about being the first one to point fingers...your first paragraph of your first post said that the hobby was not legit and people dealing in high end cards are corrupt...were you not pointing fingers and calling names then...if you deny it, then, yes, I call you a LIAR.
I get it now...Marshall is just a bully. He screams the loudest because he has no class. He has no brains. He has no talent. He has nothing but his "noise."
One last thing...Marshall...you have no idea what "growing up tough" means and having tough friends. I really suggest you think before you post because there are several people on this board who probably had it a lot tougher than you and there are several people on this board I would never want to get into a fight with (like Leon's auction partner).
Joshua
PS Jim...that was a great line!
This message has been edited by Wite3 on Jan 9, 2009 12:11 AM
The thing i am actually suprised about is that Leon locked the old thread and told everyone that enough is enough and has said nothing to the individual that started this one. He actually makes a personal phone call about the situation and normally i would have not taken the call but made a exception this time. Now Joann goes on a personal witch hunt and actually posts my name and starts ranting and raving about how she is offended. Get Real. I'm not craving attention what i am doing is trading blow for blow. If you BRING NOISE then i will BRING IT RIGHT BACK.
The last time i checked shows like Sopranos,Six Feet Under,Desperate Houswives,Deadwood and so on are all giant money makers and they all are wildy over the top. I wonder what would happen if they put on a show and everyone was just so nice and oh so wonderful. Here we go and we'll call it Joann and her lovely friends Episode 1- ZZZZZZZZZ and today i told my wife how wonderful she is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and then she said your such a good person zzzzzzzzzzz and look there goes our dear friend Mary zzzzzzzzzzzzzz let's go invite her over and we'll play scrabble zzzzzzzzzzz. America is built on controversy, arrogance, intimidation,power and last but not least BRINGING THE NOISE, there is a old saying F with the bull and you will get the horns.
I did notice that after posting my facts in regards to cards again nothing but silence from all the playa haters and finger pointers.
What i really wish is that certain people could read the e-mails that have been written to me from members of this board who support what i am doing. Nothing is positive said about any of the people questioning me except Leon. He is the only one that is not lumped into the group. What i wish is instead of e-mailing me that they would put their opinion on the board.
Last but not least Tim Tebow did just want i knew he would do which is why i bet on Florida and predicted them to cover,they did in fact BRING THE NOISE. Congratulations for being 1.
As a daily lurker and infrequent contributer, this guy is just amazing. He is the most self-righteous person that this board has seen in years. Time to hit the dump button.
One of my favorite quotes that, sad to say I cannot remember fully right now is from Walter Payton when asked why he does not celebrate a touchdown. Basically he said he plays like he has been there before...no need to celebrate.
in the same vain...no need to bring on the noise....if a person is who they say they are recognition will come their way. If you have to brag about who you hang with or what you have bought and sold maybe you are a little deficient in other areas!!
How do people like this find this place? How do they become so full of themselves, and only caring about the dollar and/or the grade?
Most importantly, how can someone read or hear that they hurt someone else's feelings, and not evening think once about apologizing? Even if they still felt true to their comments, wouldn't you want to at least apologize and show you're a humble person? I don't know JoAnn very well, I have read many of her posts and I believe she was one of the first to donate to the 1st Net54 Charity auction, and hence have plenty of respect for her. But if I said something and it upset her, or anyone else on the board, heaven forbid, I'd be prompt to apologize.
I know I am one of the youngest ones visiting the boards some fifty times per day basis (I love reading the new posts, seeing pictures, etc) and I admit I am inconsistent posting to the forum (I don't have the knowledge like everyone else does), but reading ridiculous garbage like that sure makes me feel like I am on par with maturity like the rest of you.
Seriously, grow up.
Go Cubs.
This message has been edited by kylebicking on Jan 9, 2009 12:49 AM
Walter Payton was exciting when he ran the ball but in all reality what fills the stands in professional sports? Why do people attend Nascar events? The go to watch wrecks and drivers getting pissed and all the drama.
Does anyone remember Roger Clemens throwing the bat at Piazza? Yankee stadium erupted and the Mets were never the same.
For every person who likes Walter Payton, Joe Montana, Nolan Ryan there is also a person who likes Joe Namath, Chad Johnson and Roger Clemens.
What is hilarious about everything in regards to pre-war baseball cards is that these players were loud and violent rough chaps. Just go watch the movie Cobb or talk to people that knew him. The greatest player to ever live bet on himself and raised hell wherever he went. He fought anyone on the drop of a dime and he is my favorite all time ballplayer! My 2nd favorite player is Pete Rose and he should be in the hall of fame for his accomplishments playing the game.
Pure and simple Cobb & Rose RAISED AND BROUGHT THE NOISE!
If you count there were 45 posts before i responded. All kinds of trash talking, bashing, talking about banning and so forth. Does anyone here really think i need attention? In all reality when people get together on a witchhunt and a post goes 45 messages without a single response from the individual their talking about it is obvious who is seeking attention.
If Leon wants to ban me my feelings won't be hurt and i told him so via the phone. I do believe though if he chooses to do that it would be very hard for him to look into the mirror after the conversation we had.
The real truth is Leon and i are alot alike and i know that deep down where it really counts he would never back down from a fight. I will respect his decision either way but really Joann if you think a apology is order after your malicious post then you need to go and get some therapy and build your self-esteem.
Another thing i have several African American friends and when in Vegas i have dinner with the main man at P.F. Chang's. He and i have closed the place many a night with a bottle of bub. I would never judge anyone because of their color and one of my best friends is Jewish.
I wish a hottie would post about me needing a spanking because i would crank some Jay-Z and get the party started (-:
Another thing i never said it was a black tie affair. I stated suit and tie. I also never stated that Donald and i are friends. My personal opinion of Donald is that he is not a bad guy and the fact that i got to ride in a golf cart with Tom Fazio and his wife and went places on the course that no one else did shows a little as to what they thought of me. Mr. Fazio is a genius golf course designer and he has a set of balls the size of coconuts to carve that golf course out in that rough terrain.
In regards to Levine their is alot of corruption in the hobby. Why do you think the feds raided the National? I did not say anyone on this board was corrupt so don't put words in my mouth.
Bottom line is that if the broad would not have posted her malicious attack none of this would have gone on. I'm not into Billie Jean King types and really i always thought Martina Navratilova might have a cucumber lurking downstairs. LMFAO
My team football picks are 3-3 and my only loss was a over bet brought down by a sudden typhoon. Stay posted for the weekend because High end baseball cards go hand in hand with gambling. Why was Shoeless Joe banned? Mickey Mantle was a notorious gambler and so is Michael Jordan and 90% of all pro golfers.
Also Joann if you go back and look at your original post in regards to my baseball card corruption. You called me a newbie whiner. What did you think was going to happen?
All of it was done on purpose Levine. My original post had to do with grading remember hence the comment in regards to Plank. As to the broad comment she reminds me of a man the way she is acting hence the comment.
Who are you anyway? what have you ever accomplished? Type your name into google and see what comes up.
Ever since I got back into the hobby in the past year, and decided to dedicate my focus to Pre-War, I have been a frequent visitor to Net 54. I come here to see the pickup threads. I love to see scans of cards I dream about. I check the B/S/T's three times a day just in case I come across a deal I can't pass up. I come here to see caramel cards. I come here to see tobacco cards. I come here to see cards I never knew existed. I come here for PRE-WAR CARDS.
I know that I am a rookie here, but that being said.
Leon, I apologize if I'm a rook out of line, but is this necessary. I don't give a crap about Donald Trump. I don't give a crap about Football Bets.I come here four times a day because PRE-WAR BASEBALL CARDS are my obsession. I come here because old cardboard brings me joy. I graduated college in April but still bartend because it pays the mortgage and I can put away enough a month to feed my addiction. I don't don't give two s---- about personal and monetary vendettas.
DON'T LIKE PSA? ---- START AN ANTI- PSA BOARD
DON'T LIKE SCG? ---- START AN ANTI- SCG THREAD
ETC. ETC.
I come here to see FREAKIN-CARDBOARD.
I respect people like Adam, JimB, Jim VB, Joann, Rob D, Leon, Cincy BearCat Doug, WILLY WONKA (Could be my favorite), Tom Boblitt, Dan Mckee, Steve Murray, Dan Bretta, Barry Sloate, Peter Ullman, JK, Joe. D, Jeff Lichtman, Cycle back, T206collector (pretty sure you name is Jim), J Levine, and all the other regular contributors to this board. You guys and the people that love pre-war cards like me are reason I refresh this website 12 times a day. Thank you each and every one of you.
Marshall, Josh is an educator who has undoubtedly touched and inspired the lives of many of his pupils ... you know, someone who makes a difference in the world. You on the other hand are an ignorant, self-aggrandizing, blow-hard who lacks respect, tact, and manners. As a 40-year old man you should be ashamed at the way are acting and the way you carry yourself. The way you speak about women is unbelievable, your mother would be ashamed of you. The true measure of a man is the way they treat women, unfortunately that is all too true in this instance.
You talk about money like you have actually earned some, what exactly do you do for a living (you might as well answer your own question you posed to Joshua). When I ask this I'm not talking about golf, as you obviously can't support yourself doing that, or your music (for the same reason). What have you done to make this world a better place? I'll be anxiously awaiting your reply.
A balmy dark night in Honolulu. Had a good tough session at the Kyokushin dojo this evening; for once I was pleased by my training efforts. When the class was pau I stopped on the way to my car to listen to a group of 15 or 20 young Micronesians hanging out and singing hymns in a nearby park. Their voices came out of the darkness, a sweet Polynesian singsong from the women, virile harmony from the men. Such a peaceful sound. It was one of those "lucky you stay Hawaii" moments and it put me in the nicest mood. Got to thinking about how much I enjoy participating on this board and how I value the friendships both real-time and virtual that I have made, and that I am fortunate to be a part of this group of diverse, interesting and good people. Got home and eventually logged on to Net54. It's lights-out already on the Mainland. The board is quiet. The Marshall Barkman thing is at the top of the page. What's with this guy? Blowing the MB3 horn non-stop, insulting my friends left, right and crooked, sexist putdowns (ya kicked his okole, Joann), violent innuendoes, contributing nothing but aggro and graceless as a claw hammer. Forty years old and thinks the world is a mosh pit. How unbecoming and pathetic, a grandma in a mini-skirt. Too many guys like him in my world already. He's the guy in the boom car that runs all the red lights on Kal Highway. The guy that talks on his cellphone in the movie theatre. The guy that flips off old ladies. What is he doing on our board? What is the over/under on the number of hours left before he gets the hook? Get him the hell off of here. Enough already.
I heard somewhere "If you build it, they will come"
Quite honestly, if you ignore it (especially when it's below you, not worth your time of day, and thrives on the attention you are giving it), it will usually go away...
He needs to go but if you do ignore ignorance like his, sooner or later it'll go away. He craves attention SO bad, and we're all feeding it. Head back to the island, little David 'Gilligan' Duvall wannabe. Only difference is you don't have 1% of the talent Duvall USED to have....
I am a rookie here also. I check the board multiple times a day. In the short few weeks that I have been reading these boards, I have learned so much. Most of the people who post here are very knowlegable about pre war cards. But there are a few who have nothing better to do but insult people and bust their chops. I have encountered one such person when I posted a few weeks ago. I no longer see his name posted. These people are crying out for attention because they have nothing else in their lives.
...I'm mostly a lurker on here,but have enjoyed most everything I've read over the years.
But a few replies up, Mr.McDonald summed up the on-board unanimous response to MB3 in a most eloquent fashion.
I've known guys who publicy and personally respond to women as MB3 did in a moment of spite, and MB3 fits them to a T. A 40-year old who still acts as like a 15-year old. IF he's married,I'd be shocked.
I must admit,Marshall's website (what there is of it) is interesting and he seems like an interesting guy...if you simply happen upon his website. But seeing him virtually interact on these boards (maybe this is a poor example of him in action,but I doubt it) puts any doubt to rest. A gambling-addicted,high-strung,bling-loving,loud mouth,all-about-himself,extreme dude who craves...absolutely CRAVES...attention.
He may play golf better than a lot of us citizens,and if you like his sort of heavy metal music (the song samples on his blog weren't half-bad)...not my cup of tea,but as a musician myself I give props....anyway....
He has done nothing but cause strife on these boards with his repititious blatherings and spoutings of 20-year-old catch-phrases, and his ill-placed and very-out-of-fashion-rat-packish comment to Joann puts a big red flag up.
Once this thing dies down he'll bring his noize elsewhere.
Buh Bye. See you on the back 9 at the looney bin.
This message has been edited by robedits on Jan 9, 2009 8:42 AM
Well, I do have a responsibility to the community we have made. I am going to lock this thread and talk to Marshall today. Our crowd doesn't really fit him too well. He did insult good friends but he felt it was warranted. I do stand behind my comments (believe it or not) but my overriding concern is for the board. I am sort of a lone ranger on this one. We'll have to talk about this over a lot of beer at the National. Here is the deal. I think I am going to ask Marshall not to post anymore and lock this thread also. I think Net54 VBCF has had enough for now...maybe forever. I apologize for not taking action sooner but I do see my (much younger) self in Marshall...though I changed. I apologize to anyone that is offended I didn't take action sooner. I have explained why...right or wrong. There are so many folks I want to throw some rebuttals at it's not even worth it. So lets get back to vintage cards please...Anymore Marshall threads will be locked and swift action will be taken....take care all