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t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009 at 11:01 AM
  (Login MICHLEGAL)

 
I have some T206's and these I have never tried to see how common they are in the T206 world. Does anyone know if they are gradeable also, thx,


dan



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(Login bijoem)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 11:06 AM 

very cool looking cards and very desirable to many collectors.

I don't think the grading will matter much when it comes to the value of these cards -
but if you do want them in a slab, I believe both PSA and SGC would encapsulate them.

The number grade is meaningless and they possibly would just receive an 'A', which also would have no effect on the value of these cards.


The value comes from their coolness.


great cards - thanks for showing them.

 
 


(Login sando69)

the unnamed one...

February 18 2009, 11:24 AM 

is that NOT the incredibly rare & highly desirable alfred e. newman rookie card?

 
 

(Login scottglevy)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 11:35 AM 

Your examples are somewhat extreme which makes them rather collectible amongst print error collectors.

The ghost image should get a number grade. Kruger may only get an 'A'.

Both cards will absolutely sell in excess of common pricing.

Regards,
Scott

 
 

(Login martyogelvie)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 11:52 AM 

Mark, that does look a lot like Alfred E. Newman.. spooky huh?

marty


    
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(Login MICHLEGAL)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 11:59 AM 

thank you for your responses, Mad Magazine reference, nice

http://www.dccomics.com/mad/

I also have a rough looking Evers portrait t206 that has a Sweet Caporal back

that looks like it says 130 Subjects, Is that common.

thx, dan

 
 
Mark Anderson
(Login GehrigFan)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 12:05 PM 

I can't answer for SGC or PSA, but barring evidence of alteration, these could both be given numerical grades by Beckett (BVG). The errors could be notated on the labels as well.

Great looking cards! I thought that first one, at first glance, looked like the old lady from the American Gothic painting. If so, this would be her pre-rookie as the painting is from 1930 happy.gif


 
 


(Login boxingcardman)

As one who collects this sort of stuff

February 18 2009, 12:16 PM 

These are desirable cards but in this economy, all bets are off as far as how they'd do at auction. If you'd like to see more freaky prints, my site has a batch:

http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/freaksandgeeks



    
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This message has been edited by boxingcardman on Feb 18, 2009 12:18 PM


 
 

Kevin Saucier
(Login only_child)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 12:34 PM 

I can't answer for SGC or PSA, but barring evidence of alteration, these could both be given numerical grades by Beckett (BVG). The errors could be notated on the labels as well.


Which is why I have chosen Beckett to holder my print/card errors. They also offer UV protection, a non-slip inner sleeve, and are virtually indestructible. There is simply no match if you want your card protected!

Those examples are awesome!


Kevin Saucier

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www.AlteredCards.com - in-depth education on advanced card doctoring techniques & detection with detailed examples


 
 
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(Login scottglevy)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 12:41 PM 

MARK ANDERSON ---

I have a question for you about BVG. Could you please shoot me an email

scottglevy@yahoo.com

Regards,
Scott

 
 


(Login T206Collector)

Wasn't that Weimer...

February 18 2009, 1:55 PM 

...on T206Museum.com at one point? I feel like I saw that ghost image maybe 7 or 8 years ago, maybe even before I ever saw a proper Weimer.



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(Login MICHLEGAL)

Weimer ghost referenced in t206 museum

February 18 2009, 2:26 PM 

I have never seen another one, only heard of it.

Would like to see another,

 
 
barry arnold
(Login ethicsprof)

206

February 18 2009, 3:03 PM 

whether these are graded or not, these 206 anomalies are great finds.

congrats.

best,

barry

 
 


(Login jimonym)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 3:18 PM 

The Kruger was part of a Mastro lot a couple years ago...

Mastro Lot

 
 

(Login MICHLEGAL)

The Mastro Kruger has a crease lower right on C

February 18 2009, 3:23 PM 

I have had my card for over 20 years,

Wow, very cool to see another one though, thank you so much for remembering, awesome, dan

 
 

(Login rebelsart)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 6:17 PM 

Dan,
Thanks for posting these really neat T206 errors. Hard to believe that 100 years later two of the Kruger misprints (yours and the Mastro example) have survived. Pretty sure these two came from the same sheet.
Art
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(Login sheetmetaldan)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 7:20 PM 

I believe I may have an uncataloged version as well.Presenting the ALFRED E. KRUGER!!!!!

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OFF TO SGC! WHAT ME WORRY?

 
 


(Login sando69)

Re: t206 Kruger and Weimer Ghost, Scrap, Common, ??

February 18 2009, 7:51 PM 

dan l.- i believe that is the more common "mouth open" variation...

 
 
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