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cards, not stocks

February 25 2009 at 1:40 PM
steve  (Login 200backstroke)

My nice collection of vintage cards is holding value very well these days when compared to my stock portfolio. Cards are my ONLY investment that has not gone down very much. Real estate is proving to be very poor investment also.

If it weren't for my cards, I would be spiraling into a deep state of depression as I watch my "investments" whither away.

Just imagine, with the money I had originally put into stocks, I could have instead come close to cornering the market on T206 Cobb greenies PSA 5. After all there are only about 30+ Cobb greenies in PSA 5.

Hahaha, then cry, cry, cry.

Thank goodness for cards !

steve

 
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(Login murderers_row)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 1:47 PM 

The value of your stocks will be restored in a year or two.
(Regardless of what a certain collection of people with a single name may think.)

You haven't lost a thing unless you panic and sell.

 
 

davidcycleback
(Login dereb12)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 1:49 PM 

It doesn't matter what the values are until you sell. Meaning, if you plan on holding your cards for five years, a roller coaster ride in year two can be immaterial.

Edited to say David and I said essentially the same thing.


    
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(Login wolfie51sb)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 1:55 PM 

"Remain calm! All is well!"

[linked image]

 
 

davidcycleback
(Login dereb12)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 1:56 PM 

I can add that Pre-War II baseball cards are finite in number and have been avidly collected for a long, long, long time. Vintage baseball card collecting is not a fad, and baseball cards will have value long into the future. There will still be good interest in T206s and Allen & Ginters ten, twenty years from now.


    
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(Premier Login autograf)

Wow David.........

February 25 2009, 2:03 PM 

you are a bull! We're at 1997 levels and we'll get it back in a year or two? Ditch Geithner and install Atkatz! New bumper sticker.........

 
 


(Login Bicem)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:04 PM 

"The value of your stocks will be restored in a year or two."

really? phew!!!!

 
 


(Premier Login leonl)
Forum Owner

Tom

February 25 2009, 2:07 PM 

Everything will be ok. Our stocks are at 12 yr lows but they should be getting all of their value back shortly. I too am very glad I dumped ALL of my stocks (not in IRA's) about 7-8 yrs ago, and put it into cards. My reasoning was that I enjoyed looking at, and collecting, my cards more than I did my stocks. I remember selling 300 shares of Microsoft at $71 and buying a nice card. That was the best move I ever made, financially.

 
 


(Login wolfie51sb)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:09 PM 

Leon,

If you bought that card off of the cheaper B/S/T, then it was a really good move.

 
 

(Login murderers_row)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:11 PM 

Yeah, I guess you're right, Tom & Jeff.

Better sell now before you lose everything.

 
 

davidcycleback
(Login dereb12)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:11 PM 

Don't anyone worry, irrational exuberance will return again

 
 


(Login wolfie51sb)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:12 PM 

Will return? It's already here. I'm bathing in it daily.

 
 

(Login barrysloate)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:12 PM 

Stocks will reach bottom soon and then start their climb upward, but it might be a little slower than some predict.

I am amazed at how well collectibles have held up, all things considered.

 
 

(Login murderers_row)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:12 PM 

We're at a 12-year low?

Did it take twelve years to reach that low?

I thought not.

It won't take twelve years to climb back up, either.

 
 


(Premier Login leonl)
Forum Owner

Rob

February 25 2009, 2:13 PM 

Alas, it was a personal sale. I was hoping to find it on the cheaper BST but it never showed up. As stated I am discussing breaking our BST into 2 sections...


High priced Buy/Sell/Trade

Low priced Buy/Sell/Trade



It's our way of saying "thanks".

 
 


(Login Bicem)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:17 PM 

hope you're right Dave, I think stocks gaining back 100% of their previous value in a year or two is wishful crazy talk, but I hope you're right!

 
 


(Login boxingcardman)

I tend not to focus on what the cards are worth

February 25 2009, 2:32 PM 

Since they're going in the casket with me anyway...

I'm with brother Leon on this one: thrilled to bits that I didn't plow all that discretionary income into the rigged casino called the stock market instead of carefully purchasing great cards. What to do now? Decisions, decisions...

Maybe we can convince the powers that be to allow us to hold cards in our IRAs, SEPPs and 401Ks?

The only bright side of this is that I've earned a lifetime "I told you so" pass with my wife on the money I spend on cards...


    
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4815162342
(Login 4815162342)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:35 PM 

When the Dow hits 14k again, I will sell all my stock and complete my T206 set!

 
 

(Login JohnnyHarmonica)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:48 PM 

I knew it was about to hit the fan but did nothing and still don't know why, it just happened so fast and right before the holidays. In 2000 I timed the tech stuff perfectly and made a killing but that was so different than what just happened. I could own a low grade T206 Honus Wagner for the hit I took but thats how it goes. I don't think it will recover for atleast 2-5 years if ever. Don't worry, be happy, buy cards !!!!!!!!!!!

 
 


(Login calvindog)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 2:51 PM 

The Nasdaq was at 5050 9 years ago. It is at 1400, down 72%, since then. With all respect, the chances of the Dow hitting 14,000 and the Nasdaq 5000 in the next two years is ZERO. If anyone wants to wager 100K on this -- and I will give 10 to 1 odds -- just ask me.

 
 
steve
(Login 200backstroke)

back to the Cobb greenie idea

February 25 2009, 3:13 PM 

Back to my idea of a horde of T206 Cobb greenies -

It really is do-able as I know people have the kind of income required.

You set out to buy every T206 Cobb green PSA 5 that comes to market in any way - maybe snag 3 or 4 per year. In 5-10 years, you might be able to fill a showcase with over 25 of the cards.

What would that do to the market for that card ? Could you imagine some dude owning 80% of all the PSA 5 Cobb greenies.

enough, back to work
steve

 
 


(Login slidekellyslide)
Network 54 Moderator

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 3:15 PM 

I always thought the NASDAQ was overvalued....how can a website be worth more than General Electric? I knew a guy who owned every Subway Sandwich shop in Lincoln (7-10 of them?) that got into day trading...he sold his restaurants and went full time into the stock market. I haven't seen him in about 8 years...I often wonder how that turned out for him.

 
 
PC
(Login PC-T206)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 3:16 PM 

I'd buy a 5.5, or a 4.5.

 
 


(Login boxingcardman)

Dan, he's back in Subways

February 25 2009, 3:17 PM 

Only he's working the register at one...

Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

 
 

(Login martyogelvie)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 3:22 PM 

I haven't looked at marketwatch all day.  happy.gif

It is way too depressing but as others have said, don't panic and sell. 

My card portfolio is quickly gaining ground on my stock portfolio..  Not sure that's a good sign though!



marty


    
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(Login calvindog)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 3:40 PM 

Dan, take a look at GE today; most companies are worth more than it presently.

 
 

(Login barrysloate)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 3:42 PM 

There has to be some incredible bargains in the market right now. I wish I knew which ones.

 
 


(Login calvindog)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 3:52 PM 

Barry, I want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening?

"Plastics"

 
 


(Login slidekellyslide)
Network 54 Moderator

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 3:56 PM 

Jeff, is it worth more or less than Pets.com?

 
 


(Login calvindog)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 3:58 PM 

Probably pretty close. But don't worry, just hold on to Pets.com (Bear Stearns and Lehman, too), it'll be back in a year or two. Or never. Either one.

 
 


(Login slidekellyslide)
Network 54 Moderator

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 4:05 PM 

Pets.com was at 19 cents/share about 8 or 9 years ago when the company folded.

 
 


(Login hrbaker)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 25 2009, 5:37 PM 

"I always thought the NASDAQ was overvalued....how can a website be worth more than General Electric? I knew a guy who owned every Subway Sandwich shop in Lincoln (7-10 of them?) that got into day trading...he sold his restaurants and went full time into the stock market. I haven't seen him in about 8 years...I often wonder how that turned out for him.'

He may be skinnier than Jared these days!

 
 


(Login ScottDango)

david

February 26 2009, 8:18 AM 

you said "

The value of your stocks will be restored in a year or two.
(Regardless of what a certain collection of people with a single name may think.)

You haven't lost a thing unless you panic and sell."


dont agree at all....they said that in 2001 after the nasdaq crash...."it will be back in a few years"

not even close..it may never return to previoulsy seen levels....

remember, so much wealth was lost, poeople donthave a lot of money "on the sidelines" to bring back these stocks...and certainly their wont be enough new money to drive the prices back.....

we have seen a change in the head winds...stocks may be out of favor for MANY MANY YEARS


 
 


(Login calvindog)

Re: cards, not stocks

February 26 2009, 12:29 PM 

So I guess no one wants to take me up on my bet?

 
 
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