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Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

Red Cobb survey........updated

April 6 2009, 10:38 AM 

Thanks JACK G for your input. And, there are 4 more inputs from Net54 readers.


[linked image]


UPDATED survey....4/6/09

Scarcest group......

0....DRUM
1....HINDU (red)
3....LENOX (black)
0....UZIT
3....SOVEREIGN 460
9....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42
4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS
7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350
4....CYCLE 460
2....EPDG

Next toughest group......

2....SOVEREIGN 350
0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25
1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42
2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)
4....TOLSTOI
4....OLD MILL

The easier ones......

2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30
1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25
2....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30
6....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25
4....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25
7....POLAR BEAR


OK, we have 68 total inputs; but, we need a lot more data points here in order to arrive at some valid conclusions.

Guys & gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards.....check-out your T206's and post them here ?


TED Z


 
 

Jeff Lichtman
(Login calvindog)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 6 2009, 10:41 AM 

Ted, I'll post mine tonight. Also, this survey cannot be complete until the carpet guy from Michigan chimes in after he's done rioting after basketball tonight. He's the Nelson & Bunker Hunt of red Cobbs.

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

JEFF L

April 7 2009, 7:46 AM 

happy.gif still looking forward to seeing your Cobb's happy.gif


TED Z


 
 
Kenny Cole
(Login KennyCole)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 7 2009, 8:11 AM 

Mine has a Polar Bear back.

 
 
Anonymous
(Login zouraspm)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 7 2009, 8:16 AM 

cycle 350
2 sweet caporal 30 NY

 
 

Martin Neal
(Login mafoli)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 7 2009, 11:25 AM 

Piedmont 350 factory 25

 
 
Mike
(Login insidethewrapper)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 7 2009, 5:52 PM 

Sweet Caporal 350 Factory # 30.

 
 
Jeff Prillaman
(Login Cavaliercards)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 7 2009, 6:07 PM 

picked up 4 red Border Cobbs today

three are 350/460 25/2
the other is Old Mill Factory 25/2nd district

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

Red Cobb inputs galore......updated survey

April 7 2009, 9:23 PM 

Thanks guys for posting your Cobb's and thanks to all the Net54 readers that've contacted me.


[linked image]


UPDATED survey....4/7/09

Scarcest group......

..1....BROAD LEAF 460
..0....DRUM
..1....HINDU (red)
..3....LENOX (black)
..0....UZIT
..3....SOVEREIGN 460
10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42
..5....CAROLINA BRIGHTS
..4....CYCLE 460
..2....EPDG

Next toughest group......

..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350
..1....CYCLE 350
..3....SOVEREIGN 350
..0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25
..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42
..2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)
..5....TOLSTOI
..7....OLD MILL

The easier ones......

..2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30
..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25
..9....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30
10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25
10....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25
..9....POLAR BEAR


OK, we have 96 total inputs.....but, we need many more data points in order to arrive at some
valid conclusions.

Guys & gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards....hop onto this bandwagon
and add your Cobb to this list. Who will be the first to reach the 100th input ?



TED Z



    
This message has been edited by tedzan on Apr 7, 2009 9:31 PM


 
 
Scott Levy
(Login scottglevy)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 8 2009, 6:32 AM 

Ted,

You are a pro at front back variations....what's the deal with 10 factory 42s -- seems way out of line with that back's perceived scarcity.

 
 
Bob Donaldson
(Login obcbobd)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 8 2009, 7:31 AM 

Cycle 460

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

SCOTT L

April 8 2009, 10:31 AM 

1st....the 10 red Cobb's reported (so far) with PIEDMONT 460 Fac. 42 do not surprise me in the least.
If we were to get a lot more participation in this survey (at least 200 inputs), we would get a more
realistic perspective. And, the 10 red Cobb's with P460/42 backs would not seem out of line.

2nd....in a P460/42 survey that I ran last November, the six super-prints (this red Cobb is one) were
more often reported with P460/42 backs than other 350/460 subjects. Furthermore, I have a theory
why this Cobb is found with many P460/42 backs. The PIEDMONT brand was very popular in the South-
east, so American Litho. printed up many red Cobb's at the tail end of the PIEDMONT run and shipped
them to Durham, NC (Factory 42) to be inserted into the L&M PIEDMONT packs.

3rd....Finally, In recent years, P460/42 cards have been sought after much more so than in the past.
The 1st T206 set that I put together back in the 1980's had 4 - P460/42 cards in it....that I was not
even aware of. Simply, because this back was seldom seen (most collectors were unaware of it).

When Bill Heitman published The Monster in 1980, Red HINDU backed T206's were virtually unknown.


TED Z



    
This message has been edited by tedzan on Apr 8, 2009 5:53 PM


 
 
Drew
(Login joggerdru)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 8 2009, 10:41 AM 

Hi Ted

My red Cobbs
sweet cap 350..30
tolstoi

Drew

 
 
Scott Stiffler
(Login srs1a)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 8 2009, 10:43 AM 

Sweet Cap 350 / factory 30

 
 
Frank A.
(Login keyway)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 8 2009, 11:12 AM 

Ted; I am not reporting another Cobb, but pulled my card out to check the factory number again. It is a Sweet Cap factory 25, 350 back. Are these for some reason scarce, as I see all others are fac 30

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

FRANK A

April 8 2009, 1:07 PM 

The Red Cobb is not often seen with a Sweet Caporal 350 Factory 25 (VA) back.

And, it is less seen with a Sweet Caporal 460 Factory 25 back.

I'm not sure why this is so....as the Factory 30 (NY) versions of both these Sweet Caps are very plentiful.


TED Z


 
 
ErikV
(Login ErikV)

Re: Red Cobb survey of all its backs....need your inputs ?

April 8 2009, 3:57 PM 

I have a red back Cobb (PSA 3).....Piedmont


It's a 350/460 back, factory 25/dist. 2.


Edited to include t-brand.


    
This message has been edited by ErikV on Apr 8, 2009 9:15 PM


 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

ERIK V

April 8 2009, 7:56 PM 

You left out the T-brand on your " xx 460 Fac, 25 " Cobb ?


TED Z



 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

Red Cobb survey......updated

April 8 2009, 7:57 PM 

Thanks BOB, DREW, SCOTT and ERIK for your Cobb inputs and thanks to two Net54 readers
that have contacted me with their inputs.

[linked image]


UPDATED survey....4/8/09

Scarcest group......

..1....BROAD LEAF 460
..0....DRUM
..1....HINDU (red)
..3....LENOX (black)
..0....UZIT
..3....SOVEREIGN 460
10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42
..5....CAROLINA BRIGHTS
..5....CYCLE 460
..2....EPDG

Next toughest group......

..7....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350
..1....CYCLE 350
..3....SOVEREIGN 350
..0....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 25
..1....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42
..2....SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42 (ovpt)
..6....TOLSTOI
..7....OLD MILL

The easier ones......

..2....SWEET CAPORAL 46O Factory 30
..1....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 25
11....SWEET CAPORAL 350 Factory 30
10....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 25
12....PIEDMONT 350 Factory 25
..9....POLAR BEAR


OK, we have 102 total inputs.....but, we still need many more data points in order to arrive at
some valid conclusions.

Guys & gals, do not be shy about telling us of your Red Cobb cards....hop onto this bandwagon
and add your Cobb(s) to this list.

Hey JEFF L....where are all these Cobb's you have ?


TED Z


 
 
Marc S.
(Login schoenen)

Does the Red Hindu

April 8 2009, 9:13 PM 

included above come from a collector? If so, you might want to add in the example that is in REA to your population.

 
 
 
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