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Red Cobb survey of all its 30 backs....post your inputs ?

April 2 2009 at 5:07 PM
Ted Zanidakis  (Login tedzan)

There is no argument that the Red portrait Cobb was American Lithographic's "signature picture" for its white
bordered T-card sets. This picture of Cobb appears on at least 30 white bordered cards with various Tobacco
advertising backs. But, there appears to be some argument regarding the relative scarcity of its 11 toughest
T206 backs. So, let's run a survey and see what results.



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I will start this survey with 2 of my 4 red Cobb cards.

0....BROAD LEAF 460
0....DRUM
0....HINDU (red)
0....LENOX (black)
0....UZIT
1....SOVEREIGN 460
1....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42
0....CAROLINA BRIGHTS
0....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350
0....CYCLE 460
0....EPDG



OK, guys and gals.....how about running up the numbers.....show and/or tell us about your red Cobb(s) ?

Remember, this survey is not limited to just these 11 backs....any Red Cobb is welcome to this study.


Thanks for your time an effort responding to this survey.


TED Z



    
This message has been edited by tedzan on Apr 24, 2009 10:48 PM


 
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andy becker
(Login andybecker)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 5:16 PM 

when i collected red cobbs, i had:

sov 460
cb
piedmont 42

i no longer own any of these.

 
 
stefan
(Login stefan41playball)

my cobb reds

April 2 2009, 5:19 PM 

piedmont 42 and tolstoi.

 
 
stefan
(Login stefan41playball)

forgot one

April 2 2009, 5:20 PM 

American beauty 350 with frame.

 
 
Paul
(Login deadballpaul)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 5:20 PM 

I have one Piedmont350-460 Factory 42!

 
 
Bob Manning
(Login Theoldeprofessor)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 5:26 PM 

Sweet Cap 350

 
 

Richard
(Login rman444)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 5:35 PM 

I had a lenox that I crossed from a GAI 2 holder to an SGC 2 holder. I also own one factory 42 and one carolina brights.


    
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Jim Rivera
(Login cfc1909)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 5:35 PM 

Sovereign 350

 
 

peter ullman
(Login ullmandds)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 5:48 PM 

i have none...but...it seems there are a lot of pied fact 42's out there...odd?

 
 

Brian E.
(Login warrior1978)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 5:54 PM 

Of the T206 Cobb Red Portraits that I consider scarce backs I have

On your list:

Lenox (on ebay right now)
Carolina Brights
Piedmont F42

Not on your list:
Broadleaf 460
American Beauty
Cycle 460
EPDG

 
 

Richard
(Login rman444)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 6:26 PM 

Broadleaf 460 clearly belongs on the short list. Perhaps at or near the top.

 
 
stefan
(Login stefan41playball)

broadleaf

April 2 2009, 6:31 PM 

broadleaf, and hindu's should be at the top.

 
 

Brian E.
(Login warrior1978)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 6:35 PM 

I would say that a Cobb Hindu Red or Black is more difficult to find than a Lenox or Uzit. Just my thoughts after looking for a Cobb hindu for a few years


    
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barry arnold
(Login ethicsprof)

Red

April 2 2009, 6:53 PM 

just a good ole regular Piedmont 350 that i'll never part with,Ted. happy.gif

best,

barry

 
 
Aaron Seefeldt
(Login seefer)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 7:28 PM 

Great thread Ted.


    
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Frank A.
(Login keyway)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 7 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 8:10 PM 

Have a Sweet Cap 350 back, fac. 25. Frank A.

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

Red Cobb survey of its 10 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 9:03 PM 

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1st....As I've already stated, the BROAD LEAF 460 is not on the list because there is no debate that
it is absolutely the scarcest. Anyhow, I doubt that more than 2 examples would be reported here.

2nd....This survey was mainly prompted by a discussion regarding the relative scarcity of this Cobb
with DRUM, LENOX, Red HINDU and UZIT backs. I added the CAROLINA BRIGHTS, PIEDMONT 460/42
and the SOVEREIGN 460 to this survey because I feel that these 3 are also quite scarce. But, since
some have requested here, I now have added AMERICAN BEAUTY 350, CYCLE 460 and EPDG backs
to this survey.

OK, get this straight....the order that the backs are listed here has no relation to their scarcity......
that is what we are trying to determine from this survey.

Updated survey......

0....DRUM
0....HINDU (red)
2....LENOX (black)
0....UZIT
2....SOVEREIGN 460
6....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42
3....CAROLINA BRIGHTS
2....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350
1....CYCLE 460
1....EPDG


Good start, guys; but, we need a lot more inputs to get an accurate sampling. Where are all the Red
Cobb's that I know are out there in Net54-land ?


TED Z


 
 
Art M.
(Login rebelsart)

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 10 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 2 2009, 9:10 PM 

Ted,
Here are the T206 Cobb, red, cards that I have:
American beauty 350 with frame
Carolina brights
Cycle 460
Old Mill
Piedmont 350, factory 25
Piedmont 350-460, factory 42
Polar Bear
Sovereign 350
Sovereign 460
Sweet Cap 350, factory 30
Sweet Cap 350-460, factory 30
Sweet Cap 350-460, factory 42 with overprint
Tolstoi
T213 Coupon, type 2

Good luck with the survey.
Art

 
 
Ted Zanidakis
(Login tedzan)

Thanks ART M

April 3 2009, 5:06 AM 

UPDATED survey....4/3/09....adding Art's inputs and an email from a Net54 reader.

0....DRUM
1....HINDU (red)
2....LENOX (black)
0....UZIT
3....SOVEREIGN 460
7....PIEDMONT 460 Factory 42
4....CAROLINA BRIGHTS
4....AMERICAN BEAUTY 350
2....CYCLE 460
1....EPDG


So far, only 24 inputs......it would be nice to get 100+ responses.

This is a very popular card, how about it Net54er's, tell us of your Red Cobb (s) ?


TED Z


 
 
Frank Wakefield
(Login Greatwake)
Registered Users

Re: Red Cobb survey of its 10 scarcest backs..need your inputs ?

April 3 2009, 12:01 PM 

Golly, Ted... you asked to hear about my red portrait Cobb. I have one, the only one I've ever had in the white border set. It isn't on you're list, because it's common I reckon... Piedmont 350-460 factory 25. Now I've told you about my red Cobb, as asked!!

 
 
 
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